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4 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Yes, bravo, Toni Kroos another good example. Although slow as a boat, but can control the midfield with ease. 

You saw last night what I was talking about -regarding Pogba. Portugal played incredibly deep and w/o their star man -it was the perfect chance for Pogba to shine and prove doubters like me that he is worth the big money.

What other chance if not the big Final of the European tournament played in your own country. He was gash for pretty much the entire tournament, last night it was his chance to shine and, why not, maybe add a few more bucks to his United contract, too.

But IMO he blew it and frankly Matuidi and Sissoko looked way better than him. Maybe not in terms of quality, but it terms of their involvement in the game.

For me this is what a 100m player has to do -to be the 1st violin, to take the game by the scruff of the neck, impose yourself as the general, the multimillion superstar. Especially in a 4-4-2 system and a midfield two with Matuidi where clearly one of the two midfielders has to go forward and show his leadership. And that midfielder for me had to be Pogba last night, but unfortunately he was not.

Like I said, I do not want to sound stupid, the talent is there, the amazing ability, but at the same time we cannot deny that PROBABLY he was made to look that good because of Juventus' midfielders, too. 

With Pirlo, Arturo Vidal, Marchisio et al, he was never made to be the midfield general, the pressure was not that big, flourished in their shadow. But at United it will be completely different -with Rooney no. 10 and another defensive minded midfielder (a la Matic), Pogba will have to be the main creative midfielder and step up his game, otherwise the English media will be eating him alive.

To be fair i've never thought that Pogba is suited to a deep-lying role. It's difficult for him to dictate play there, too much defensive work, too far away from the box and unable to make the most of his shooting ability. Moreover he didn't get on the ball as often as he'd liked. But yes, you do have a point there, he should have done better.

You said Matuidi and Sissoko looked way better than him, i get where you're coming from, but the two of them failed to stop Eder from shooting, Pogba was livid and because of that feck up, he had every right to be. More or less, cost France the game! No matter what, that takes away a lot of praise, at least in my eyes. Matuidi isn't the player he once was, he has become a liability, can't understand why Deschamps decided to stick with him, instead of Kanté. National managers...different discussion.

Maybe one could say that the Pog should improve his mentality. He comes across as arrogant and/or self confident, remember when he took on Fergie and was just about 18 years old. That's not normal! Juve sold the likes of Vidal and Pirlo. On top of that Marchisio isn't always there to play. Last season Pog really stepped it up. At the moment he isn't not running through a brick wall for neither his team nor his manager. He needs defensive cover to thrive, which suggests he'd play as the most advanced of a midfield three. When Deschamps decided to bring on Kanté against Germany which saved him from some of the defensive duties and guess what?! He immediataley looked better, imo.

If played in a more advanced role and given the freedom he needs, he'll be the driving force of any midfield: bombing forward, dribbling, doing the unexpected, pulling off a 30 yard screamer now and then. Which team can really do without such a player? Therefore i can't see a midfield of two and a number 10 in front of him for a long time, but if it were to happen as you've said, yeah, the Pog could be in trouble. But i wouldn't predict that outcome! I stand by comparison between Lamps and Pog: Lampard got the better mentality, Pogba is technically speaking superior. I think Mourinho intends to use him similar like he did with Lamps. Can see that one working out well. If the team plays to his strengths, he makes most teams in the world better. He offers a decade worth of service, he'll be worth the money, imo. I think English media will love his style, don't forget that he plays for Manchester United and he's attacking minded, why should it go wrong?

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5 hours ago, the wes said:

Pogba could stay at Juventus, according to his agent Mino Raiola.

As if Raiola wants that to happen. That sneaky bastard will say anything to get his usual 10% of the deal. I have a very strong feeling that Pogba will end up in ManU. The club needs to make a statement to show its power in terms of attracting the best talent and Mourinho is very keen on having Pogba-type player in his midfield. 

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The most overrated player of all times. The irrelevance made football player. And it's a shame, because he has conditions, but the game of this guy is 89 minutes 50 seconds of nothing, and 10 seconds of some good skill for his next vine. 

Maybe under the correct trainer, he could turn into a good midfielder, but right now, talk about him as one the best midfielders on the world (Even i've read that he is the best hahaha), or worst, ask 120 million for him, is a bad joke.

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2 hours ago, Fernando said:

Well that puts to rest all those attacks that our board are penny pinching people. 

 

Di Marzio and other sources talked about it when it happend last summer. I thought everybody knew that..

Anyway, the attack on our board could still be relevant since the board woke up so late, with those August 20-30 bids for Pogba, Manolas and Marquinhos. But to say that Roman doesnt want to spend a lot of money anymore and shit like that (shit that i read on twitter) is proven to be false.

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4 hours ago, The Skipper said:

So the club fully bid 90m euros for Pogba but apparently we didn't back Jose last season. 

This is what annoys me, people attack the club for not supporting the manager. All the evidence says the club were prepared to spend money on transfers. The problem is that transfers in real life are harder than in video games. 

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You are right of course, but this isn't going to help reduce the volume of nonsensical posts we have to put up with on this site. Not least because there is nothing new in this information. It has been known for a very long time with Jose all but confirming it in more than one press conference, And the agents comments being made public months ago.

The attitude displayed by some posters here is akin to religious fervour. They believe what they believe and can't be talked out of it by force of argument. They will either continue in their faith or, if they do change their mind, it will be for their own reasons and in their own time. 

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34 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

You are right of course, but this isn't going to help reduce the volume of nonsensical posts we have to put up with on this site. Not least because there is nothing new in this information. It has been known for a very long time with Jose all but confirming it in more than one press conference, And the agents comments being made public months ago.

The attitude displayed by some posters here is akin to religious fervour. They believe what they believe and can't be talked out of it by force of argument. They will either continue in their faith or, if they do change their mind, it will be for their own reasons and in their own time. 

Nice generalisation there. Though agree about the first half of the comment, the second half sounds very salty and not at all relevant to the whininess of some posters (especially that one guy we all love).

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