Tomo 21,751 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Could he have done any less?Besides setting fire to the training pitches and shitting in a bucket in the youth teams changing areas, what could Jose have done worse with our young players this year?You are right, i am hoping that will change soon, and the chances he gave to Huth, Mikel and Diarra last time, give me reason to believe it will. He was also slowly bringing Sinclair into the fold before he did in his knee against Man.Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Moreover the same Pogba that some people are now creaming themselves over was an inexperienced youngster that many would have dismissed as "not ready yet" or "not good enough" to improve our midfield immediately before Juventus gave him the opportunity and platform to express himself and he never needed time to establish himself in one of the best midfield tandems in Europe.You can't praise Juve for giving Pogba the chance and platform to perform how he is at the moment as it would go against everything you're trying to preach. Juve had a talented lad called Luca Marrone, who like Chalobah, is capable of playing as a central midfielder and as a central defender. Instead of giving Marrone a fair chance what did Juve do? They signed Pogba last season which gave him almost no chance of featuring in midfield. The only opportunities that arose were at CB due to injuries/suspension. And even then, any hopes he had of featuring more in this position were dashed in the summer with Juve signing Angelo Ogbonna. It happens all the time at the bigger clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He'll make it at Chelsea....He has good mentality and work rate. Two aspects Jose loves. I cant say much about the others, but I fully expect ake to make it in the long run. Not as a CM.RLC, Chalobah and Baker are all more talented than him in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Why is this notion that young and inexperienced equal inability to make meaningful impact right away. it's nothing more than a myth and a lazy argument used to dismiss youth integration at the top level. I can name plenty of players who shone brightly and outperformed their more experienced and accomplished competition when introduced into the team at a very young age despite lacking genuine experience at the top level. Fabregas, Casillas, Owen, giggs, Puyol, Raul,Fowler, Wilshere, Beckham and the list goes on and onWhat allowed Pogba to shine, is Juve's squad was well balanced, had a player in his peak (Vidal) and a player of great experience (Pirlo) playing next to him.There is giving youth a chance, then there is turning into an Olympic team.Also to add for one of those people that you have listed, their is a group like the lads we tried to promote (Kakuta, PVA, Bruma and Kakuta), we still haven't recovered from stripping our squad bare, or when we got tonked 3-0 at home to Sunderland did you say "oh well, atleast our bench was full of our youth cup winning team" ? We promoted 4 young players thinking they were ready, they weren't and we suffered for it, so surely you can understand why some are a bit skeptical of us doing that again, no?By all means put them in the squad and build their role gradually, but i draw the line at putting them in a position were we could be reliant on them at the age of 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Honestly, break the fucking bank for this guy. BREAK THE FUCKING BANK!Association trained, a fucking BEAST, 21, exactly what we need.Just do the PSG and make the bid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Honestly, break the fucking bank for this guy. BREAK THE FUCKING BANK!Association trained, a fucking BEAST, 21, exactly what we need.Just do the PSG and make the bid!do it quickbarca want him and w.carvalho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 with DL going for 50mil ( , still cant believe it) then we should be reinvesting in this guy. pogba/vidal would be immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not good enough defensively, not that fantastic attacking either, honestly baffles me whenever people go nuts over him. He has been good in Serie A but nothing more, in CL he flopped like most of Juve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10852796/Chelsea-want-to-sign-either-Paul-Pogba-Koke-or-Paulinho-after-agreeing-50m-deal-for-David-Luiz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not good enough defensively, not that fantastic attacking either, honestly baffles me whenever people go nuts over him. He has been good in Serie A but nothing more, in CL he flopped like most of Juve.last year EH flopped in CL like most of chelsea. does not mean he is not class. and this guy definitely is!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not good enough defensively, not that fantastic attacking either, honestly baffles me whenever people go nuts over him. He has been good in Serie A but nothing more, in CL he flopped like most of Juve.He's 21, and showed more than enough potential to improve in both sides of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not good enough defensively, not that fantastic attacking either, honestly baffles me whenever people go nuts over him. He has been good in Serie A but nothing more, in CL he flopped like most of Juve.WHAT??? Have you seen Paul Pogba play? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2CLCbGmdkU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,960 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Personally think he'll become one of the best players in the world within a few years.José would work wonders on his game and hold him accountable on both sides of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10852796/Chelsea-want-to-sign-either-Paul-Pogba-Koke-or-Paulinho-after-agreeing-50m-deal-for-David-Luiz.htmllol Either great players!! like Paul Pogba and Koke!!!... or Paulinho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10852796/Chelsea-want-to-sign-either-Paul-Pogba-Koke-or-Paulinho-after-agreeing-50m-deal-for-David-Luiz.htmlhow is paulinho mentioned in the same category as pogba and koke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrcfc 461 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Koke or Pogba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 WHAT??? Have you seen Paul Pogba play? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2CLCbGmdkUYes, a lot. He does well in a historically bad Serie A and not much more than that.Have you seen much more than compilation videos?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcqyNKR0yXIPogba is not a terrible player at all. But Chelsea should look elsewhere as he will cost way more than he's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Yes, a lot. He does well in a historically bad Serie A and not much more than that.Have you seen much more than compilation videos?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcqyNKR0yXIPogba is not a terrible player at all. But Chelsea should look elsewhere as he will cost way more than he's worth.he had a remarkable game vs r.madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Yes, a lot. He does well in a historically bad Serie A and not much more than that.Have you seen much more than compilation videos?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcqyNKR0yXIDude... I don't know what you've been watching but Paul Pogba is 21 yr old and is likely gonna be the world's best box to box midfielders in the next few seasons. You're entitled to your opinion but I'm gonna have to ask if you've bumped your head recently? He is a fantastic player in the mould of Yaya Toure... Yes I said it the closest thing to Yaya right now. Good heavens you've produced a video of Mikel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Dude... I don't know what you've been watching but Paul Pogba is 21 yr old and is likely gonna be the world's best box to box midfielders in the next few seasons. You're entitled to your opinion but I'm gonna have to ask if you've bumped your head recently? He is a fantastic player in the mould of Yaya Toure... Yes I said it the closest thing to Yaya right now. Good heavens you've produced a video of Mikel?I did not make that video, but no I haven't bumped my head and would prefer if you left the insults for goal comment section. My point with the video is that a compilation video is not going to convince me of anything, when I have watched way enough full lenght matches of Pogba to reach the conclusion, that Juventus (and fucking Raiola) would demand way too much for what you would actually get out of Pogba.Would much rather go for a player like Koke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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