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He is a midfielder (and one who supposedly is being played in a deeper position), he is suppose to help the tempo of our play, get the ball to the attackers no matter how much pressure the opposition is putting on us and spray play around the pitch. As soon as the opposition put even the slightest pressure on us he goes anonymous, and often the likes of Mata and Hazard drop deeper and deeper to get the ball back because Lampard does not do it often. Before Benteke's sending off he, like so many times this season, was nowhere to be seen ,not helping Ramires with trying to get the ball back (I won't blame him for Ramires' red card, but he could have done a lo lot better in trying to get the ball back) and was awful in passing the ball (basically just lumping it up the pitch and hoping it would meet someone).

If we want to win the title next season Lampard should be playing as impact substitution at mot. But its likely that Mourinho will try and base the team round him in vain attempts to repeat the last time he was here, meaning that the likes of Mata and hazard being compromised because of this.

You seem to know what Mourinho thinks very well. If anything, he will make Mata and Hazard (including, ofcourse, Oscar) better players.

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Admit it, Lampard would not have broken the record if it wasn't for the likes f Hazard and Mata creating chances and bailing him out for some dire performances in the midfield.

I mean, even in the fucking game where broke he record it took until the second half to get going. Before Benteke got sent off and Vila got scared shitless and dropped off Lampard was one of the worst players on the pitch.

He had the highest game score on our entire team before he scored. He was .leading us in tackles and interceptions and had an 85% passing rating. The idea that he one of the worst players is absurd and simply goes to the fact that you are continually looking for Lampard to have bad games. He makes a bad pass and you think "oh he's awful" and just ignore the good things he does. In fact, Lampard has our 4th best rating on the squad on whoscored over the course of the season despite playing a position that is less stat friendly than most. No, he isn't the player he was and he isn't an idea fit for a deep-lying midfielder, but he has still been one of Chelsea's better overall players this season.

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He had the highest game score on our entire team before he scored. He was .leading us in tackles and interceptions and had an 85% passing rating. The idea that he one of the worst players is absurd and simply goes to the fact that you are continually looking for Lampard to have bad games. He makes a bad pass and you think "oh he's awful" and just ignore the good things he does. In fact, Lampard has our 4th best rating on the squad on whoscored over the course of the season despite playing a position that is less stat friendly than most. No, he isn't the player he was and he isn't an idea fit for a deep-lying midfielder, but he has still been one of Chelsea's better overall players this season.

Its funny but Mikel tends to get good statistical scores when it comes to tackling and passing but thats seen as not important when judging him, but here we will use it to prop up Lampard.

And about his passing, how many of it was successful how many of them created key chances or build up key chances. Because watching the game you could clearly see him struggling to keep up with Villa's pressing game and for all of his tackling he seemed never to help Ramires with trying to win the ball in the midfield.

And that wasn't even (imo) his worse games. Man City away just shows you how easy it is to pick him off the field.

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He had the highest game score on our entire team before he scored. He was .leading us in tackles and interceptions and had an 85% passing rating. The idea that he one of the worst players is absurd and simply goes to the fact that you are continually looking for Lampard to have bad games. He makes a bad pass and you think "oh he's awful" and just ignore the good things he does. In fact, Lampard has our 4th best rating on the squad on whoscored over the course of the season despite playing a position that is less stat friendly than most. No, he isn't the player he was and he isn't an idea fit for a deep-lying midfielder, but he has still been one of Chelsea's better overall players this season.

You are right, but don't feed the troll.

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Its funny but Mikel tends to get good statistical scores when it comes to tackling and passing but thats seen as not important when judging him, but here we will use it to prop up Lampard.

And about his passing, how many of it was successful how many of them created key chances or build up key chances. Because watching the game you could clearly see him struggling to keep up with Villa's pressing game and for all of his tackling he seemed never to help Ramires with trying to win the ball in the midfield.

And that wasn't even (imo) his worse games. Man City away just shows you how easy it is to pick him off the field.

No, Mikel doesn't get good game scores because he plays a simple game. Good game scores usually go to attacking players who are much more involved in things like key passes,shots on target and dribbling. Players like Mikel (or Cole) are underrepresented by gamescores because what they do well is not statistically recordable. That wasn't even one of his worst games? You mean the game where he scored two goals and won the game for us wasn't even one of his worst games? Really? What a shock. He had an awful game against City but everyone has bad games. You want to point to those bad games and say "that's the the real Frank Lampard" as opposed to his overall contribution which has been solid. Yes, you can pick him off the field when he has a bad game, but you can do that with everyone. Mata has been amazing, but he's also had games where he's run around like a headless chicken. So has Hazard. So has Ramires, so has Cole. Everyone has bad games, even an occasional terrible game. Stop pretending that it's the new normal for Lampard because it isn't.

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No, Mikel doesn't get good game scores because he plays a simple game. Good game scores usually go to attacking players who are much more involved in things like key passes,shots on target and dribbling. Players like Mikel (or Cole) are underrepresented by gamescores because what they do well is not statistically recordable. That wasn't even one of his worst games? You mean the game where he scored two goals and won the game for us wasn't even one of his worst games? Really? What a shock. He had an awful game against City but everyone has bad games. You want to point to those bad games and say "that's the the real Frank Lampard" as opposed to his overall contribution which has been solid. Yes, you can pick him off the field when he has a bad game, but you can do that with everyone. Mata has been amazing, but he's also had games where he's run around like a headless chicken. So has Hazard. So has Ramires, so has Cole. Everyone has bad games, even an occasional terrible game. Stop pretending that it's the new normal for Lampard because it isn't.

I was referring to before Benteke got sent off if you actually paid attention. Which proved my thesis that Lampard can't handle the opposition pressing against us. Its no coincidence when we drew 2-2 with United that as soon as Lampard was taken off, had someone to anchor the midfield and allowed Ramires to bomb forward that we had complete control of the game. It shows that Lampard should no longer be one of the main men and that if we are to challenge for the title then thee team should no longer include him as one of the main focuses of our play. Something that I fear will not happen under Jose.

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Please do not mention Mikel and Lampard in the same paragraph :readthemessage: .

Frank still is class and should be getting a two year contract on the same wages ,his influence at the club is priceless on and off the pitch .

A world class midfielder even without the goals,and much better than Mikel in the holding role ,the difference being Lampard can run old man or not ,Mikel will be slower than Frank when Frank is 40 .

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A world class midfielder even without the goals,and much better than Mikel in the holding role ,the difference being Lampard can run old man or not ,Mikel will be slower than Frank when Frank is 40 .

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