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It's hard to use sarcastic exaggeration when people are even more exaggerated than your sarcasm and are actually being serious.

i cant wait till someone comes up with that sarcasm tool hahaha. maybe he was just itching for a discussion.

didnt see the game, but the headline read "and over to you Lampard." just knew that he had done it again.

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We all know that Super Lamps isn't the player he was. Age and a few injuries have really caught up to him and we can't forget that he is 34. Lamps has always been at attacking midfielder, or even sometimes a secondary striker and those positions are a far cry away from playing as a centre midfielder. He has been getting foward ever since day one of his Chelsea career and that was well over a decade ago so it's unfair to expect him to adapt to entirely different role with ease, old dogs don't learn new trick all that well. Not only does he have to adapt to new expectations and duties but he has to break many of the habbits that made him so fantastic for so many years. When was the last time you tried breaking a habbit? Remember how difficult it was? Often these habbits are just auto-pilot actions that you do without realising because it's ingrained into your ethos. I fully believe his performances would be at a much higher standard if he was playing in a more attacking role; the stamina and physicality may be gone but all of the technique remains.

You can criticise him all you want, but never forget that while he may fail at times you can never fault his effort. 100% all the time everytime, the results aren't always there but the passion is.

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We all know that Super Lamps isn't the player he was. Age and a few injuries have really caught up to him and we can't forget that he is 34. Lamps has always been at attacking midfielder, or even sometimes a secondary striker and those positions are a far cry away from playing as a centre midfielder. He has been getting foward ever since day one of his Chelsea career and that was well over a decade ago so it's unfair to expect him to adapt to entirely different role with ease, old dogs don't learn new trick all that well. Not only does he have to adapt to new expectations and duties but he has to break many of the habbits that made him so fantastic for so many years. When was the last time you tried breaking a habbit? Remember how difficult it was? Often these habbits are just auto-pilot actions that you do without realising because it's ingrained into your ethos. I fully believe his performances would be at a much higher standard if he was playing in a more attacking role; the stamina and physicality may be gone but all of the technique remains.

You can criticise him all you want, but never forget that while he may fail at times you can never fault his effort. 100% all the time everytime, the results aren't always there but the passion is.

We've heard the same thing over and over. 'Adapting, Legend, Not at Fault, Give him time'. He doesn't deserve to be in the first XI.

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He should not have played yesterday imo. He put in two tiring performance for England last week, you can't expect him at his age to play 3 matches in 10 days.

Had the same thought but the problem was, we lacked options. Essien loaned out. Meireles sold. Oscar still perhaps not quite ready yet. RDM is obsessed with playing Ramires at RW. And playing Romeu would just make our lineup even more defensive.

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I apologize if this has been posted in the past.

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That is quite misleading with Xavi and Iniesta (and not just the fact that they have played a lot less games). For the last decade Lampard's game has been making as many runs into the box as possible to score goals. With Xavi and Iniesta its more about staying in the middle of the pitch to dictate play. That is why they don't have as many assists, although Xavi is only 10 behind him with a lot less games played.).

Lampard has to be more like Xavi or Iniesta in terms of staying in the midfield and not making stupid runs every time we get the ball into the opposition half,but he seems more concerned on becoming the all time top scorer and is completely neglecting his duties in the double pivot. This is why I feel that if we continue with the 4-2-3-1 we need a different partnership in the 2 man DM

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That is quite misleading with Xavi and Iniesta (and not just the fact that they have played a lot less games). For the last decade Lampard's game has been making as many runs into the box as possible to score goals. With Xavi and Iniesta its more about staying in the middle of the pitch to dictate play. That is why they don't have as many assists, although Xavi is only 10 behind him with a lot less games played.).

Lampard has to be more like Xavi or Iniesta in terms of staying in the midfield and not making stupid runs every time we get the ball into the opposition half,but he seems more concerned on becoming the all time top scorer and is completely neglecting his duties in the double pivot. This is why I feel that if we continue with the 4-2-3-1 we need a different partnership in the 2 man DM

Well he has 10 more assists than Xavi in 121 games - but has 155 MORE GOALS...

Stat's can be used to persaude any argument...

Fact is Frank is one of the best midfielders of ALL time... Rather than slagging him off, we should be looking to use him as SAF does with Scholes @ United...

BUT - we have RDM in charge, not SAF - so that's unlikely to happen until something crazy happens, knocked out of CL group - or finish below 4th...

And why should he suddenly change his game - if that's what he knows and is used too - at 34 you can't expect him to change, so see above comment - we should be using him ala Scholes for Manure...

EDIT: Also, as Lampard has hardly had any injuries - his appearance record is second to none... Hence why more games than Xavi...

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Well he has 10 more assists than Xavi in 121 games - but has 155 MORE GOALS...

Stat's can be used to persaude any argument...

Fact is Frank is one of the best midfielders of ALL time... Rather than slagging him off, we should be looking to use him as SAF does with Scholes @ United...

BUT - we have RDM in charge, not SAF - so that's unlikely to happen until something crazy happens, knocked out of CL group - or finish below 4th...

And why should he suddenly change his game - if that's what he knows and is used too - at 34 you can't expect him to change, so see above comment - we should be using him ala Scholes for Manure...

EDIT: Also, as Lampard has hardly had any injuries - his appearance record is second to none... Hence why more games than Xavi...

Because the way he plays is affecting the way the board (and maybe the manager, I don't know since he keeps giving mix messages in that department) not to mention he is getting slower so he has to change the way he plays sooner or later. The fact is the position he plays requires him to play more defensively means he better to do or be dropped. The Athletico Madrid game will become more apparent if we can't get a double pivot that does it job properly and helps take off any opposition pressure. Lampard doing what he does in Jose's 4-3-3 is upsetting the balance.

And how can we use him like SAF uses Scholes? Because judging from past experience not making a constant starting 11 player means he will just act like a petulant brat and kick up a fuss in the dressing room and in the media. For gods sakes we should not be treating him like royalty (like some fans think we should)

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