Blues Forever 1,232 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Just because you were one of the best to grace the game does not mean you will become a WC manager. Look at Henry, Viera and countless others. Being a manager is totally different ball game. Agree, only few managed to become a WC manager (Cruyff, Rijkaard, Zidane, and Beckenbauer). Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jason said: Nail. On Head. Apart from the obvious Ziyech over reliance and Werner corrondum, the lack of a Lampard type of player in our midfield has come as a shocker to me, given Lampards experience and knowledge in how important goalscoring midfielders making late runs into the box are in a team. Instead Kai Havertz who was supposed to play this role has been relegated to passing to James to put in crosses into the team. Quote Lampard, playing without a Lampard Most assumed Kai Havertz was bought by Lampard to be the new Lampard at Chelsea: to make late runs into the box and bang in 20 goals a season. That hasn’t looked like happening and won’t until Chelsea are set up in a way which allows a central midfielder to attack the box from the centre of the field. Chelsea’s method of attack is very odd. When Havertz is playing, he and Mason Mount act almost as auxiliary wingers alongside the supplementary wingers – the full-backs – who overlap the actual wingers. They then have a chasm of nothing between Giroud/Abraham and Kante in the middle of the pitch. Overloading on the wings is a perfectly reasonable tactic, but it shouldn’t be the only tactic, particularly when there is so often just one target to hit with crosses from those wide areas. Chelsea’s central midfielders have scored just two Premier League goals between them this season and only one of those has come from inside the box. For a team managed by the greatest midfield goalscorer the league has ever seen, that’s an astonishing tactical oversight. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Yes, many of the greatest managers were mostly average players (Ferguson, Clough, Happel, Michels, Mourinho, Klopp, Guardiola, Ancelotti, Capello, Hitzfeld, Trapattoni, Lobanovskiy, Hererra, Busby, Guttmann, Rocco, Shankly, Stein, and Paisley)Was Ancelotti really average? He won one title after another during his career and played with many of the greatest players everGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, killer1257 said: Was Ancelotti really average? He won one title after another during his career and played with many of the greatest players ever Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk He was alright but never a world class player. Muzchap, Johnnyeye and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, lucio said: He chose to join Man City , it’s on him Get over it Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, manpe said: Get over it I am over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 22 hours ago, Jason said: Numbers on the right are Points per Game. Bring Grant back? Vesper, Johnnyeye and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Worse manager we had in Roman era. Jokanovic would be upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Wow so FL is all the way the worst we have had under RA so far? Not pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 He has also the worst of squad of all those previous coaches. People forget. This season it might have gotten better, but fucking Sarri had Hazard Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Atomiswave and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Bring Grant back? Ash said Big Phil was the best manager he ever had. Johnnyeye and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Laylabelle 9,534 Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted December 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Bring Grant back? The cone man!! Still crazy that considering our dodgy moments we were one kick away from the Champions League.. A bit dire looking at the table that out the current top 10..we've played 8 of them. And won only once. Against West Ham..in 10th. Mana, Muzchap, Vesper and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Mana said: For a bit of redemption, Chelsea must dominate City and win the game. Anything less and the boot beckons. Because we could end up 11th if results don't go our way. And damn close to Arsenal. If we dare swap places with Arsenal, gosh...maybe Arteta IS better than Lampard. I am not often really negative about a game, but I am really dreading a Shitty pounding of us, and badly they are overdue for a rout of a decent team, which they have done so, so often in the past 3, 4 years Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 If Ziyech is back, I am sure we can manage to win it. Man city is garbage at defending. We hopefully exploit that. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANILA 290 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Mana said: For a bit of redemption, Chelsea must dominate City and win the game. Anything less and the boot beckons. Because we could end up 11th if results don't go our way. And damn close to Arsenal. If we dare swap places with Arsenal, gosh...maybe Arteta IS better than Lampard. Depends, at least for me. If it's another cross and pray game I don't care if we win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, DANILA said: Depends, at least for me. If it's another cross and pray game I don't care if we win. As if we will suddenly change. People keep on talking like we'll suddenly play a different style if Ziyech is back, when in fact, we'll just be spamming more crosses in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 As if we will suddenly change. People keep on talking like we'll suddenly play a different style if Ziyech is back, when in fact, we'll just be spamming more crosses in. At least, Ziyech can actually cross [emoji57]Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, killer1257 said: At least, Ziyech can actually cross Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk GO. FUCKING. AWAY. Johnnyeye, Muzchap, ZaynChelsea and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANILA 290 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jason said: As if we will suddenly change. People keep on talking like we'll suddenly play a different style if Ziyech is back, when in fact, we'll just be spamming more crosses in. Understand that, but I think there should be at least some progress and at least some attempt some interplay. That's also why LampardOut for me because it really does look like this is his philosophy per the interview post Villa game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 GO. FUCKING. AWAY. I. AM. HERE. TO. STAYGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Muzchap and Beigl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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