Styles 9,790 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 As for the story put out by The Sun it's absolute bullshit designed to provoke the Chelsea fans. Please don't buy into that crap. Muzchap and royg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 It's hard not to be sentimental when it comes to Lampard, he is the greatest Chelsea player ever, and that's speaking objectively. I'd love him to accept that one year extension and have a similar role as the two United legends enjoy under Ferguson. Unlikely as it is..Giggs is five years older than Lampard and Scholes is four years older. When they were Lampard's age, they were playing 35-45 games a year. Lampard is not the player he was a few years ago, but he's certainly capable of helping Chelsea out for a few more years. I am not privy to wage demands or anything like that so can't comment on the business end of it (which is rather important) but this sort of thing won't help the club's image (which has already taken a beating the past year). You see the respect that clubs like Barcelona and ManU have for their older players. It's customary and respectful in football clubs to allow their greats to stay part of the squad as they age (look at Italy- Javier Zanetti is 39, Totti is 36, Di Natale is 36, Del Piero just retired this year at 38, etc...). That doesn't mean they have too play the same role or anything, just that's mutually beneficial for clubs and players to do this. Ruthlessness is not an attractive quality in a person or in a club. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 For every Giggs and Scholes, there's a Bruce, Keane, Schmiechel, Irwin or Hughes.The reason Scholes came out of retirement is because United didn't replace him, whereas we've got a crop of youngsters looking to break through. Out of all of our older players (Terry, Cole, Cech) he's the one who is less likely to play 30 games a season and the one we have most replacements for.There's a fine line between being respectful of out history and being slaves to it. Rubber bullets, The Mak and Henrique 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 He is the best player to have ever pulled on a Chelsea jersey & it's about time that you showed a true blue legend some fucking respect.Amen to that. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I'm more sentimental than most when it comes to Lampard but you can see the point about him not being value for money anymore. It's a business at the end of the day and it's no surprise Chelsea are being ruthless, living legend or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Really? I know it's easy/fashionable to have a go at the board but I disagree with that assessment entirely.We're talking about Lamps leaving. Now he's a great player but there are 3 players who we might be looking at to replace him in the squad - Oscar, De Bruyne and McEachran.Those are three young players with massive potential whose combined wages are less than Lampard's. Yes Lamps is a legend and yes he played well against Villa but where was his experience and leadership in the CWC? The case for Cole is completely different because he's clearly still one of the best players in his position in the world, but the club has to stick by it's policy for players over the age of 30 otherwise what's the point?So you think that McEachran and De Bruyne will return from their loans and instantly be 2 midfielders good enough to come up against top level teams every week? yes Lampard isn't what he was but he offers a great deal of experience- something De Bruyne and McEachran do not. If Lampard leaves we will be left with quite an inexperienced midfield. At the start of next season, should we not sign anyone else our midfield would be this old:Romeu 21Ramires 26Mata 25Oscar 21Mikel 26Moses 22Hazard 22Marin 24Piazon 19De Bruyne 22McEachran 20(Essien 30 and Benayoun 33 the fact that they are on loan may mean that they will leave this Summer)Not including Essien and Benayoun, the average age of that midfield is 22, if you take out Piazon it is 22.9. If you take out Piazon and add in Lampard it would be 24. Compare that with other clubs Barcelona (24), Real Madrid (25), Man U (28), Man City (29). It is clear that our midfield is not old enough to compete with these teams.With Cole, what is the problem if we break our over 30's policy? If other players then want a contract more than 2 years and are over the age of 30 we don't have to offer them one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 So you think that McEachran and De Bruyne will return from their loans and instantly be 2 midfielders good enough to come up against top level teams every week? No. But I don't know if Lampard is 'good enough to come up against top level teams every week' so I don't necessarily agree with the premise of your point. It is clear that our midfield is not old enough to compete with these teams.Not old enough? If Luiz and Mikel are holding then that's two players about 26. Mata will be 25 and then you have wingers who are about 22. They also have the benefit of being pretty fucking talented and signing Stanley Matthews's corpse to bump up the average age won't change that in the slightest.With Cole, what is the problem if we break our over 30's policy? If other players then want a contract more than 2 years and are over the age of 30 we don't have to offer them oneThe problem with breaking a policy 'just once' is that you tend to break it 'just once' over and over again. Once you've established precedent then it becomes meaningless. Let's just look at this in plain terms. We made a profit of about £1 million last year. Signing Lampard on a new contract where he earns 60% of his current wage would cost us roughly £5 million p/a. That is not an amount you spend to indulge a sense of nostalgia.Let's build a statue to the guy if you want to memorialise him. It doesn't even count towards FFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Lampard staying would be a good thingm but I dont see any problem if he leaves. Well, Italy example doesnt matter here, all these players are still in top clubs not because they are legends, but because the clubs dont have the money, so its better for them to stick with the old guard than going to market and buying new players.Lampard has one of the highest wages in the club, and he cant get the same amount of money if he is going to be a good squad player, as it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Ballack wanted to take a cut and they dumped him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I would love for Lampard to stay but in the age of Financial Fair Play it's impossible that a soon to be 35 year old can get his wages on a 2 or even 3 year deal. I doubt Lampard is willing to accept significantly reduced wages on a one year deal.But Torres get a stupid wage and he aint exactly young or a decent player majoirty of the time xPetrCechx and chelseathebest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Ballack wanted to take a cut and they dumped him anyway.I wince at the stupidity of our board whenever I am reminded of that. Hopefully the 10-11 season have taught them to deal better with a similar situation. Manuf and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 But Torres get a stupid wage and he aint exactly young or a decent player majoirty of the timeExactly.If high wage is an excuse for dumping Lampard, then what about Torres?Our board is a complete joke. A whole bunch of clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm pretty sure SFL would take a wage cut to stay at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Exactly.If high wage is an excuse for dumping Lampard, then what about Torres?Our board is a complete joke. A whole bunch of clowns.I bet you weren't saying that when Hazard was convinced to come here instead of United or City.The situation with Torres is different to Lampard, Lampard is out of contract this summer, Torres is not.Im all for getting Torres off the wagebill but we need to find a buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Exactly.If high wage is an excuse for dumping Lampard, then what about Torres?Our board is a complete joke. A whole bunch of clowns.Torres represents Abramovich's biggest individual investment in the club (transfer fees + wages = 100m over the contract). Hence the persistence with him. The club is clearly run like a business and no business gives up on its heavy investments without sweating it out. Lampard represents no value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Great video, allready posted two years ago, so some probably have seen it allready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 As a videomaker , Gilvorak really helped me to start doing videos, great great work from him Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Chelsea have won 9 out of 10 PL games when Lampard has started this season and lost 7 from 8 when he's not played.yeah, get rid of him now Term-X, BlueLion., zolayes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Lamps is fucking god, can't describe how much I love this dude. One goal away from Dixon...Edit. I mean he passed Dixon! Edited December 30, 2012 by Jusek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Oh Frankie, you fuckin legend ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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