Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Ossie the King 634]

We are not Everton to keep players, we let him go where he wanted, to Arsenal. I'm 100% sure that he would go to PSG if not his family who wanted to stay in London

You're right, Everton backed their coachs wishes and fair play to them. If you want to be liked then I understand your viewpoint.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

You're right, Everton backed their coachs wishes and fair play to them. If you want to be liked then I understand your viewpoint.

You know what's amazing.. It wasn't so long ago that we'd have never entertained the idea of selling an effective player of ours let alone to a direct rival. Roman's direct interference was the result of that because it's been well documented if Mourinho had his way Cech wouldn't have gone there.

Now it's perfectly acceptable. Baffles me.

[didierforever 7,349]

There's also backing your coach's wishes. Cech's loyalty was rewarded with millions of pounds but we were within our rights to nit strengthen a rival, especially if Jose said so. He was undermined. I just think we won't agree on much.

so you think keeping cech a prisoner or not making him uproot his family is the reason why we are 15th?

we supported the manager by selling the best prospects in the world. we supported the manager by keeping the players he wanted. we supported the manager in every way we can.

if then a manager of a PL winning team thinks he needs 150million pounds worth of player to get a top HALF finish, then well.. yes, we wont agree on much.

just like we did not agree when you had said that bertrand was a championship level or at best a relegation level PL player, TOPTB.

[didierforever 7,349]

Sorry but John Terry so far has been MOTM

But that's good defending, to a point. A low line is if you don't step up at all.

JT was MOTM, or atleast one of our best players.

but again, how many games are we going to play like this? we would be the one with 70% possession and keeps countering us. JT has been found out multiple times in that scenario and that will continue to happen until we are going to make this our MO.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

so you think keeping cech a prisoner or not making him uproot his family is the reason why we are 15th?

we supported the manager by selling the best prospects in the world. we supported the manager by keeping the players he wanted. we supported the manager in every way we can.

if then a manager of a PL winning team thinks he needs 150million pounds worth of player to get a top HALF finish, then well.. yes, we wont agree on much.

just like we did not agree when you had said that bertrand was a championship level or at best a relegation level PL player, TOPTB.

If Cech was in goal for the 3 months Courtois was out you can bet your arse we would have more points than we do now.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

JT was MOTM, or atleast one of our best players.

but again, how many games are we going to play like this? we would be the one with 70% possession and keeps countering us. JT has been found out multiple times in that scenario and that will continue to happen until we are going to make this our MO.

Not necessarily, if Zouma is next to him and the midfield has pace it's not a problem, it gets messy when a mixture of Mikel-Matic and Cahill conspires against him to create a clusterfuck of very slow players.

[didierforever 7,349]

If Cech was in goal for the 3 months Courtois was out you can bet your arse we would have more points than we do now.

how many? 1 or 2?

bego was brilliant.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

how many? 1 or 2?

bego was brilliant.

4 or 5 I think, and that would be enough to keep confidence and I think that would also be enough to hold us in midtable. It would probably also have saved Mourinho's job. They you go, the board really did cost him in the end!

[didierforever 7,349]

Not necessarily, if Zouma is next to him and the midfield has pace it's not a problem, it gets messy when a mixture of Mikel-Matic and Cahill conspires against him to create a clusterfuck of very slow players.

i am sorry, but chelsea is the only team that plays with "bodyguards".

azpi should play next to JT to "protect" him.

willian should "cover" for iva.

matic should cover for cesc.

cesc should cover for oscar and willian's lack of creativity.

its time we play players who are fit enough to play in the proper system.

[didierforever 7,349]

4 or 5 I think, and that would be enough to keep confidence and I think that would also be enough to hold us in midtable. It would probably also have saved Mourinho's job. They you go, the board really did cost him in the end!

really? tell me how?

please do.

tell me which 4 or 5 points did bego cost us?

also, i am sorry, but jose wanted to sell cech, but not to arsenal. so basically, the board cost jose NOTHING.

[Ossie the King 634]

so you think keeping cech a prisoner or not making him uproot his family is the reason why we are 15th?

we supported the manager by selling the best prospects in the world. we supported the manager by keeping the players he wanted. we supported the manager in every way we can.

if then a manager of a PL winning team thinks he needs 150million pounds worth of player to get a top HALF finish, then well.. yes, we wont agree on much.

just like we did not agree when you had said that bertrand was a championship level or at best a relegation level PL player, TOPTB.

I think you should back your manager and not make his rivals stronger. Roman undermined Jose and in my experience, that's bad no matter what industry you're in.

That last bit is just pathetic. Sorry but it's getting annoying now. Bertrand is a decent player and at 26 is showing at consistently. Don't get some peoples fascination with him though,

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

really? tell me how?

please do.

tell me which 4 or 5 points did bego cost us?

also, i am sorry, but jose wanted to sell cech, but not to arsenal. so basically, the board cost jose NOTHING.

Not cost. I prefer to think of it as Cech 'earning' them.

Jose did not want to sell Cech.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

i am sorry, but chelsea is the only team that plays with "bodyguards".

azpi should play next to JT to "protect" him.

willian should "cover" for iva.

matic should cover for cesc.

cesc should cover for oscar and willian's lack of creativity.

its time we play players who are fit enough to play in the proper system.

Juve played a system that protected Pirlo, Arsenal put Ramsey on the wing so Cazorla does not get too exposed.

We take it a step too far, sure, but I think John is worth keeping over say, Iva and Fabregas.

[didierforever 7,349]

I think you should back your manager and not make his rivals stronger. Roman undermined Jose and in my experience, that's bad no matter what industry you're in.

That last bit is just pathetic. Sorry but it's getting annoying now. Bertrand is a decent player and at 26 is showing at consistently. Don't get some peoples fascination with him though,

so when roman undermined jose by awarding the club's legend with some loyalty, that has made us 15th in the league.

nothing annoying mate. also, considering the fact that we are playing a RB as a LB, a CB as a RB but sold a perfect home grown player for that position, is what bothers us.

[didierforever 7,349]

Not cost. I prefer to think of it as Cech 'earning' them.

Jose did not want to sell Cech.

bego was atleast as good as cech has been for us in the last couple of years. like i said before, bego was brilliant. this is nothing but wishful thinking.

jose said it himself that he would have preferred if cech went to any club outside PL. if i remember multiple times. cech's transfer was a surety, the destination was not. PSG kept coming up multiple times.

[Ossie the King 634]

so when roman undermined jose by awarding the club's legend with some loyalty, that has made us 15th in the league.

nothing annoying mate. also, considering the fact that we are playing a RB as a LB, a CB as a RB but sold a perfect home grown player for that position, is what bothers us.

Jose is a legend too so not sure what your point is. Cech is a great keeper, a close rival needed a great keeper, I'm what business is it good practice to hand them that when your current manager doesn't want you too. It was a terrible move all around. Cech isn't a baby, he understands that. Roman has a blind spot in this regard which is why he needs to take a step back.

[didierforever 7,349]

Juve played a system that protected Pirlo, Arsenal put Ramsey on the wing so Cazorla does not get too exposed.

We take it a step too far, sure, but I think John is worth keeping over say, Iva and Fabregas.

if next season is not the season where we actually start afresh, then we will never get a proper chance. also, the people you mentioned (cazorla and pirlo) are players aroound whom the team revolves. they are creators and the protection is acceptable. we will be covering a defender's fraility which can be done only by sacrificing our attack. no more of this please.

[didierforever 7,349]

Jose is a legend too so not sure what your point is. Cech is a great keeper, a close rival needed a great keeper, I'm what business is it good practice to hand them that when your current manager doesn't want you too. It was a terrible move all around. Cech isn't a baby, he understands that. Roman has a blind spot in this regard which is why he needs to take a step back.

and again you dodge the question. you are TOPTB.

how the hell, did selling cech, make us 15th.

if we were currently 2nd in the table behind arsenal, i can understand your cribbing.

tell me how selling cech meant that we have 20 points in 19 games.

[Ossie the King 634]

and again you dodge the question. you are TOPTB.

how the hell, did selling cech, make us 15th.

if we were currently 2nd in the table behind arsenal, i can understand your cribbing.

tell me how selling cech meant that we have 20 points in 19 games.

I didn't say selling Cech made us 15th because I'm not focusing on one issue. Many things have gone wrong over the last few years, depending on your perspective.

If you want to focus on just one point then do that, but hat seems tremendously boring when life offers up,such a rich tapestry. And stop with this 'you're such and such poster'. Complain to the mods if you think that and let them deal with it.

[didierforever 7,349]

I didn't say selling Cech made us 15th because I'm not focusing on one issue. Many things have gone wrong over the last few years, depending on your perspective.

If you want to focus on just one point then do that, but hat seems tremendously boring when life offers up,such a rich tapestry. And stop with this 'you're such and such poster'. Complain to the mods if you think that and let them deal with it.

am i the one fixating on that?

for 3 years and 5 windows, we did EVERYTHING jose wanted.

one transfer regarding cech and suddenly we did not support the manager. you need to get your facts right mate.