Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[didierforever 7,349]

Appointing Jose was a mistake if you don't plan on backing him. Carlo had the same treatment in summer 2010.

I think the issue is that no one knows what they want and doesn't have the patience to stick with anything. This whole thread is hilarious because it's unclear who is calling the shots. It's a shambles.

we did not back jose?

we sold KDB and mata because he wanted a bang average player like oscar to be his no.10.

we sold lukaku cos he wanted to get a semi retired etoo as his main man.

we sold bertrand, we bought the europe's best LB in 13-14 and then sold him the next year because of his favouritism for iva.

please dont tell me we did not back him.

the person calling the shots is obviously roman. i have given you WHY i think so. there is a reason why we are in the market after the manager who apparently refused our advances so vehemently.

[didierforever 7,349]

I would disagree, I think Zouma-JT was our best pairing but that's probably the blue glasses. I wouldn't, no, we need his leadership still and Varane-JT would still be the best pairing we could field imo.

Everybody. EVERYBODY was awful against City. WBA was a harsh red card and Watford the first goal was a Matic hand ball pen and the second was from memory not JT's fault...

just 5 minutes before the goal, JT got owned by ighalo only for GC to come in and put a brilliant tackle and save his ass. and it was not just one occassion.

where has his leadership been this whole season? leadership is important when the leader himself is performing and leading from the front.

[Ossie the King 634]

we did not back jose?

we sold KDB and mata because he wanted a bang average player like oscar to be his no.10.

we sold lukaku cos he wanted to get a semi retired etoo as his main man.

we sold bertrand, we bought the europe's best LB in 13-14 and then sold him the next year because of his favouritism for iva.

please dont tell me we did not back him.

the person calling the shots is obviously roman. i have given you WHY i think so. there is a reason why we are in the market after the manager who apparently refused our advances so vehemently.

We weakened the squad in the summer. That's what I meant by not backing him.

Those other decisions led to us building a title winning squad that had the potential to go further. Instead we didn't improve it. That defender you wanted is to get, we didn't.

As for the shot caller being Roman, that is not a good thing in my opinion and until it changes, we won't achieve what we probably should.

[didierforever 7,349]

We weakened the squad in the summer. That's what I meant by not backing him.

Those other decisions led to us building a title winning squad that had the potential to go further. Instead we didn't improve it. That defender you wanted is to get, we didn't.

As for the shot caller being Roman, that is not a good thing in my opinion and until it changes, we won't achieve what we probably should.

how did we weaken the squad? we had the same exact squad. jose's opinion for improving the squad was 100+million pogba and 50+mil stones.

give that money to any manager in the world and he would get you titles.

we did not weaken our squad in the summer, we weakened it in the summer and winter before that by selling some of our best prospects. we made a short sighted PL winning team of a very very weak PL.

[Ossie the King 634]

how did we weaken the squad? we had the same exact squad. jose's opinion for improving the squad was 100+million pogba and 50+mil stones.

give that money to any manager in the world and he would get you titles.

we did not weaken our squad in the summer, we weakened it in the summer and winter before that by selling some of our best prospects. we made a short sighted PL winning team of a very very weak PL.

Exact same squad in terms of numbers but lost motel hugely influential figures in Cech and Drogba. Pedro was probably the only upgrade.

Stones wasn't going to cost £50 million until we messed Everton around either. But that's the price of continual success in modern football. It's why City will probably win the league and get Pep next season too.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

If JT turned into absolute worst I would still never want him to leave. The man is Chelsea, last player we actualy produced on our own, one who actualy gave fuck for this club for all these years and is probably biggest chelsea fan. He is the proper legend that we should take extra care because I think we wont have someone like him for a very long long time. The man gave us everything, show some respect.

[didierforever 7,349]

Exact same squad in terms of numbers but lost motel hugely influential figures in Cech and Drogba. Pedro was probably the only upgrade.

Stones wasn't going to cost £50 million until we messed Everton around either. But that's the price of continual success in modern football. It's why City will probably win the league and get Pep next season too.

so now we should have kept cech and DD too? probably call back ballack, lamps, essien and maka. there is a difference between having a dressing room of leaders and dressing room full of pensioners. the point is to replace them well. which jose did not. he replaced a massive character like lamps with a cunt like cesc. he continued with his "he is my favourite and he will play regardless of the circumstances" policy which cost us massively.

jose had as much blame as any for the stones fiasco with constantly belittling everton and martinez.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

so now we should have kept cech and DD too? probably call back ballack, lamps, essien and maka.

I would, they'd perform better than the current bunch.

[didierforever 7,349]

I would, they'd perform better than the current bunch.

fair enough. on second thought, i would too.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

just 5 minutes before the goal, JT got owned by ighalo only for GC to come in and put a brilliant tackle and save his ass. and it was not just one occassion.

where has his leadership been this whole season? leadership is important when the leader himself is performing and leading from the front.

JT just saved our arses twice in 2 minutes, once by telling pedro to come back and mark and then just now

[Ossie the King 634]

so now we should have kept cech and DD too? probably call back ballack, lamps, essien and maka. there is a difference between having a dressing room of leaders and dressing room full of pensioners. the point is to replace them well. which jose did not. he replaced a massive character like lamps with a cunt like cesc. he continued with his "he is my favourite and he will play regardless of the circumstances" policy which cost us massively.

jose had as much blame as any for the stones fiasco with constantly belittling everton and martinez.

Cech was sold to Arsenal expressly against Joses wishes. If you think strengthening a rival is backing a coach, then I doubt we'll,agree on very much.

[didierforever 7,349]

JT just saved our arses twice in 2 minutes, once by telling pedro to come back and mark and then just now

you can put in GC if you want to play so deep with 2 proper DMs and 11 men behind the ball and he would give you a world class performance.

if this is the way you want us to play, then sure, JT is the way "forward"

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

you can put in GC if you want to play so deep with 2 proper DMs and 11 men behind the ball and he would give you a world class performance.

if this is the way you want us to play, then sure, JT is the way "forward"

We are holding a high line but ok

[didierforever 7,349]

We are holding a high line but ok

i would love to see the amount of time, the ball has been in our last 3rd for it to be called a "high line".

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

i would love to see the amount of time, the ball has been in our last 3rd for it to be called a "high line".

Do you define a high line as just behind the half way line or between the 18yd line and half way line because if it's the first then it's not going to happen.

[didierforever 7,349]

Cech was sold to Arsenal expressly against Joses wishes. If you think strengthening a rival is backing a coach, then I doubt we'll,agree on very much.

did jose need cech? NO.

there is something called loyalty to the loyal.

cech was a brilliant servant to the club, and deserved to go where ever he wanted to without disrupting his family and life.

and we are 16th in the league. cech is not the reason for it. why did not jose fight for the players that could have actually helped us - bertrand, lukaku, kdb, luis.

[didierforever 7,349]

Do you define a high line as just behind the half way line or between the 18yd line and half way line because if it's the first then it's not going to happen.

i would not call it a high line, if the team is "TRYING" to press the opposition in their own half and when they fail (so far 100%), they fall back to defending box (by my guess, 50% of the half).

[Ossie the King 634]

did jose need cech? NO.

there is something called loyalty to the loyal.

cech was a brilliant servant to the club, and deserved to go where ever he wanted to without disrupting his family and life.

and we are 16th in the league. cech is not the reason for it. why did not jose fight for the players that could have actually helped us - bertrand, lukaku, kdb, luis.

There's also backing your coach's wishes. Cech's loyalty was rewarded with millions of pounds but we were within our rights to nit strengthen a rival, especially if Jose said so. He was undermined. I just think we won't agree on much.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

i would not call it a high line, if the team is "TRYING" to press the opposition in their own half and when they fail (so far 100%), they fall back to defending box (by my guess, 50% of the half).

Sorry but John Terry so far has been MOTM

But that's good defending, to a point. A low line is if you don't step up at all.

[MefiX19 1,092]

There's also backing your coach's wishes. Cech's loyalty was rewarded with millions of pounds but we were within our rights to nit strengthen a rival, especially if Jose said so. He was undermined. I just think we won't agree on much.

We are not Everton to keep players, we let him go where he wanted, to Arsenal. I'm 100% sure that he would go to PSG if not his family who wanted to stay in London