Thomas Williams 166 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I know you guys are all optimistic, but this manchester city team seems out of our reach this year. They steam rolled us last year, and in the short term their signings look like they'll help them more than they'll help us. Maybe Jose's magic will be able to even the odds, but I'm hesitant. I think we should lower our expectations a bit and realize our squad is still quite young, and second or third place finish wouldn't be the end of the world as long as players keep improving.It will be an exciting season none the less and I think we'll finish ahead of United this year! (which is saying something because we've only done it once, and by just one point, in all the years since mourinho's been gone). Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I know you guys are all optimistic, but this manchester city team seems out of our reach this year. They steam rolled us last year, and in the short term their signings look like they'll help them more than they'll help us. Maybe Jose's magic will be able to even the odds, but I'm hesitant. I think we should lower our expectations a bit and realize our squad is still quite young, and second or third place finish wouldn't be the end of the world as long as players keep improving.It will be an exciting season none the less and I think we'll finish ahead of United this year! (which is saying something because we've only done it once, and by just one point, in all the years since mourinho's been gone).I'm yet to see a team that changes half the squad PLUS the manager to make it work off the bat.I'm not saying they have a weaker side than ours... I'm saying it takes time to make things work... Never said they signed badly... just that they keep bringing way too many players without giving time for the team to be really built.Chemistry, style, familiarity - all of which essential for a team to work - take months, not weeks, especially when it involves literally half the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Williams 166 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I'm yet to see a team that changes half the squad PLUS the manager to make it work off the bat.I'm not saying they have a weaker side than ours... I'm saying it takes time to make things work... Never said they signed badly... just that they keep bringing way too many players without giving time for the team to be really built.Chemistry, style, familiarity - all of which essential for a team to work - take months, not weeks, especially when it involves literally half the team.All good points, but PSG has managed with a certain degree of success. City also has a pretty easy first 6 games, I'm afraid if they get some momentum going at the beginning of the season they'll be unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I know you guys are all optimistic, but this manchester city team seems out of our reach this year. They steam rolled us last year, and in the short term their signings look like they'll help them more than they'll help us. Maybe Jose's magic will be able to even the odds, but I'm hesitant. I think we should lower our expectations a bit and realize our squad is still quite young, and second or third place finish wouldn't be the end of the world as long as players keep improving.It will be an exciting season none the less and I think we'll finish ahead of United this year! (which is saying something because we've only done it once, and by just one point, in all the years since mourinho's been gone).Well I believe we are not yet good enough to challenge. I feel it will be a one horse race come March. But that's because of the strikers we got. What we got is Ok, but not a power house to attack On all fronts. If we where to get rooney maybe, but that's a big maybe as we need to see if he adjust to the squad or become another flopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 All good points, but PSG has managed with a certain degree of success. City also has a pretty easy first 6 games, I'm afraid if they get some momentum going at the beginning of the season they'll be unstoppable.I think PSG success is misleading. Winning League 1 doesn't compare to even being a contender in EPL. League 1 was especially weak last season... Their group in UCL was a joke and Valencia can't be a rival to a team that made as much investment. Their goal was to reach UCL SF and hopefully the final. You don't do either without beating at least one of the those: ManUtd, Bayern, Barcelona, RM, Juve and last season Dortmund. their first challenge they lost... when you put that amount of money aiming immediate results you have to beat one of those teams.Now talking about City... EPL will have an atypical season as ManUtd, ManCity and Chelsea - the latest champions - have new managers. Spurs may lose Bale and if that happens, it'll have an impact and then there's Arsenal. So in theory it'll be a more unpredictable season, but still ManUtd kept their base as well as Chelsea, so it won't be easy for City to really be a title contender 8-6 rounds away the end of the season.UCL depends on the kind of group they get. If they have path similar to what PSG had last season they can make it to QF, but I don't know how much successful that is if you only beat the likes of Porto, Kiev, Zagreb and Valencia (that finished 5th in La Liga btw - a very weak league outside of RM and Barça domination)... it's subjective and relative.I don't consider PSG did much if you look to Lyon doing the same a few years ago, with much less the investment...I stand by my words... I'll be surprised if they really fight for EPL and if they beat one of the big guns in UCL in knockouts. But that's just me.That said I do believe if they keep the base for the following season they might be one of the big guns in both competitions. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Mourinho: 'By 31/08 you will see somebody come in but my focus is to work with these guys. After a week... My boys have been fantastic' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 City apparently close to signing both Jovetic and Negredo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Mourinho: 'By 31/08 you will see somebody come in but my focus is to work with these guys. After a week... My boys have been fantastic'I didnt see that in the interview i read online. Link please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I didnt see that in the interview i read online. Link please?Read to interview again... in the mourinho/pre-season thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 PSG close to signing Marquinhos for 30m euros AND WE are letting they do it with ease, WOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 PSG close to signing Marquinhos for 30m euros AND WE are letting they do it with ease, WOW.Wtf? Marquinhos is not worth anywhere near 30m euros. Bloody hell. Calm down. Muzchap, semiller1313, TorontoChelsea and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 FFP is working good as I can see dave30 and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Sunderland sign Italy midfielder Emanuele Giaccherini from Juventus on four-year contract Hutcho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Sunderland sign Italy midfielder Emanuele Giaccherini from Juventus on four-year contractI think if i remember rightly the fee is about 7 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Thiago all set to be announced at Bayern. It's amazing how quicky that escalated considering how long it seemed for United to try and get their man. And also, like Villa said when he signed for Atletico, there was interest from England for him but Atleti did in days what it took months for the English clubs to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Cavani completes blockbuster £55.4m move to PSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 So now the Cavani deal is done there is only a few things left to say...."Now prove it"That price tag is massive, huge in fact, lets see how good this lad is in what they call a so called second rate league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 So now the Cavani deal is done there is only a few things left to say...."Now prove it"That price tag is massive, huge in fact, lets see how good this lad is in what they call a so called second rate league.Well he can't do worse then Torres that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Roma got Strootman for 2.2 milion Euros only?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Well he can't do worse then Torres that's for sure. The Torres situation has been and gone, everyone know he's been shite, but now we have another astronomical transfer here with Cavani.Will he bottle it? Who knows, hope he doesn't but by god is there massive pressure on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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