OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Atomiswave said: As I said fuck this ban and the horse it came with, and no one has had their heads cut off by the axe lady for this, disgrace. We don't know who is responsible for compliance with transfer regulations. We therefore don't know who should be sacked if things go wrong and we don't know whether or not that person has been sacked. We have enough to be worried about on the pitch without allowing ourselves to get agitated about things we don't know. 9 hours ago, Atomiswave said: And yes we are guilty otherwise we would have screamed about it. Morally speaking, I agree. Whatever arrangements we made were put in place to try to get around the regulations. Whether that has been formally proved is yet to be finally determined however so let's hold judgement. I've never believed that we could be so stupid as to mess this up again having come so close to a ban previously. If it turns out we have then you are absolutely right, heads must roll. As for screaming about it, the club's reaction so far is about as loud as they get these days. It makes no sense for the club to waste a seven figure sum on an appeal if they know it will be thrown out. I believe the reason given for not requesting that the band be temporarily suspended is bogus. Appeals are judged to be frivolous on their own merits, not on whether you request the punishments to be suspended. My guess is that the club didn't ask because it is perfectly happy to have a good excuse for not spending any money in the market this year. 9 hours ago, Atomiswave said: And if utd were unwilling to pay dybala 350K a week then how is spurs gonna do it? They dont exactly have the revenue of utd and us etc. I'm afraid you've got your head in the sand about this. With their new stadium Tottenham's matchday income is going to dwarf ours, and they've just signed a new kit deal which matches the one we have. On top of that they'll have income from NFL games and linked sponsorships. Their stadium could also host concerts using the synthetic surface to avoid damaging the turf. I've said it before but it bears repeating; it is imperative that we get the new stadium done. I don't think I'm going too far overboard if I say it is a matter of life and death for our club. We are falling down the pecking order and somebody better open their eyes to it. 1chelsea, Vesper and communicate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,383 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Everton bid £70m for Zaha. A medium sized, midtable club can afford to bid £70m on a single player! The money nearly every PL club has these days is bonkers! 😂 OhForAGreavsie and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 15 hours ago, Atomiswave said: As I said fuck this ban and the horse it came with, and no one has had their heads cut off by the axe lady for this, disgrace. And yes we are guilty otherwise we would have screamed about it. IF stinking spurs get dybala and utd erikson then that just makes our job much harder, so many quality players moving this summer and we are left playing with our balls in our hands, we will see what our youth is capable of yes, but still a few quality additions would have helped Lamps big time. The sooner poch fucks off the better. And if utd were unwilling to pay dybala 350K a week then how is spurs gonna do it? They dont exactly have the revenue of utd and us etc. Dybala was asking for £190K per week from Manure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: We don't know who is responsible for compliance with transfer regulations. We therefore don't know who should be sacked if things go wrong and we don't know whether or not that person has been sacked. We have enough to be worried about on the pitch without allowing ourselves to get agitated about things we don't know. Morally speaking, I agree. Whatever arrangements we made were put in place to try to get around the regulations. Whether that has been formally proved is yet to be finally determined however so let's hold judgement. I've never believed that we could be so stupid as to mess this up again having come so close to a ban previously. If it turns out we have then you are absolutely right, heads must roll. As for screaming about it, the club's reaction so far is about as loud as they get these days. It makes no sense for the club to waste a seven figure sum on an appeal if they know it will be thrown out. I believe the reason given for not requesting that the band be temporarily suspended is bogus. Appeals are judged to be frivolous on their own merits, not on whether you request the punishments to be suspended. My guess is that the club didn't ask because it is perfectly happy to have a good excuse for not spending any money in the market this year. I'm afraid you've got your head in the sand about this. With their new stadium Tottenham's matchday income is going to dwarf ours, and they've just signed a new kit deal which matches the one we have. On top of that they'll have income from NFL games and linked sponsorships. Their stadium could also host concerts using the synthetic surface to avoid damaging the turf. I've said it before but it bears repeating; it is imperative that we get the new stadium done. I don't think I'm going too far overboard if I say it is a matter of life and death for our club. We are falling down the pecking order and somebody better open their eyes to it. You, UJ, myself and only a couple of others have been on the stadium shit from day one. It is a huge issue for us going forward. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 If I'd be in charge, the 'FM negociator' in me would go the Madrid/Barcelona/Bayern route, already contact Christian Eriksen and Timo Werner to try to convince them to come here on a free next summer. Some 15M signing on fee for the players and 5M maybe to the agent. That makes it like a 20M transfers which is peanuts these days haha Atomiswave and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,120 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: We don't know who is responsible for compliance with transfer regulations. We therefore don't know who should be sacked if things go wrong and we don't know whether or not that person has been sacked. We have enough to be worried about on the pitch without allowing ourselves to get agitated about things we don't know. Morally speaking, I agree. Whatever arrangements we made were put in place to try to get around the regulations. Whether that has been formally proved is yet to be finally determined however so let's hold judgement. I've never believed that we could be so stupid as to mess this up again having come so close to a ban previously. If it turns out we have then you are absolutely right, heads must roll. As for screaming about it, the club's reaction so far is about as loud as they get these days. It makes no sense for the club to waste a seven figure sum on an appeal if they know it will be thrown out. I believe the reason given for not requesting that the band be temporarily suspended is bogus. Appeals are judged to be frivolous on their own merits, not on whether you request the punishments to be suspended. My guess is that the club didn't ask because it is perfectly happy to have a good excuse for not spending any money in the market this year. I'm afraid you've got your head in the sand about this. With their new stadium Tottenham's matchday income is going to dwarf ours, and they've just signed a new kit deal which matches the one we have. On top of that they'll have income from NFL games and linked sponsorships. Their stadium could also host concerts using the synthetic surface to avoid damaging the turf. I've said it before but it bears repeating; it is imperative that we get the new stadium done. I don't think I'm going too far overboard if I say it is a matter of life and death for our club. We are falling down the pecking order and somebody better open their eyes to it. Ohh the Club knows what they have done and it comes right from the top, the go ahead comes from the top. And if the Club wanted an excuse to not spend this summer for whatever reason then its bunkers, we could have easily put forward our youth and at the same time get 2 quality players in, in areas we lack of course. Spurs dont have near our sponsors I think? Sorry if im wrong mate. And we get what 60-65 from nike alone, but they have come far thats for sure and poch staying does not help. Yes agree we need to make SB bigger, we are getting left behind little by little in that regard. 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: Dybala was asking for £190K per week from Manure. Everywhere I have seen its stated he wants 350k in wages. Maybe its just hogwash I dont know but 190k looks a bit low considering how good dybala is and most of utd's players get above 190., Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Everton gone wild, lololol Djibril Sidibe undergoing Everton medical today - who else could join him? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/796613/Djibril-Sidibe-Wilfried-Zaha-Abdoulaye-Doucoure-Everton-transfers Starsport understands that the loan deal with an option to buy is all-but done, with just the formalities left to complete. Boss Marco Silva is keen to bolster his defence with Sidibe coming in as competition for Seamus Coleman at right back following Jonjoe Kenny’s loan move to Schalke. However, it’s frustration for the Toffees as Crystal Palace and Watford attempt to pull the shutters down with less than 48 hours to go until the transfer window closes. snip Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,120 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: Everton gone wild, lololol Djibril Sidibe undergoing Everton medical today - who else could join him? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/796613/Djibril-Sidibe-Wilfried-Zaha-Abdoulaye-Doucoure-Everton-transfers Starsport understands that the loan deal with an option to buy is all-but done, with just the formalities left to complete. Boss Marco Silva is keen to bolster his defence with Sidibe coming in as competition for Seamus Coleman at right back following Jonjoe Kenny’s loan move to Schalke. However, it’s frustration for the Toffees as Crystal Palace and Watford attempt to pull the shutters down with less than 48 hours to go until the transfer window closes. snip God damn how many players they need up in there? Everyday they bid and get players in. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Atomiswave said: Ohh the Club knows what they have done and it comes right from the top, the go ahead comes from the top. And if the Club wanted an excuse to not spend this summer for whatever reason then its bunkers, we could have easily put forward our youth and at the same time get 2 quality players in, in areas we lack of course. Spurs dont have near our sponsors I think? Sorry if im wrong mate. And we get what 60-65 from nike alone, but they have come far thats for sure and poch staying does not help. Yes agree we need to make SB bigger, we are getting left behind little by little in that regard. Everywhere I have seen its stated he wants 350k in wages. Maybe its just hogwash I dont know but 190k looks a bit low considering how good dybala is and most of utd's players get above 190., I have seen all sorts of figures quoted for Dybala £350K per week seems more in line with Manure saying 'outrageous salary demands' so that may well be right and I see now where the £190K per week came from he wants that that AFTER tax, so in line with 350K gross Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,383 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Everton acting like a guy who just won the Mega Millions jackpot. Throwing money at every flashy thing they see. I swear they've bid for about 15 players this summer. Whats weird is that they've just unveiled plans for a new stadium just a week ago. Usually that means tightening the purse strings, not going crazy with the spending. Atomiswave and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: God damn how many players they need up in there? Everyday they bid and get players in. if they want top 4, they need more a CB for sure, it is a an absolute must but now (atm) here is their starting XI GK Pickford CB Michael Keane CB Yerry Mina or Mason Holgate (they only have 3 CB's at remotely starting level, Pennington is dross) <<<< desperately need upgrade here LB Lucas Digne RB Djibril Sidibe DMF Jean-Philippe Gbamin CMF André Gomes (lots of depth, and potentially Abdoulaye Doucouré) AMF Gylfi Sigurdsson LW Richarlison RW (who knows, as I type they have bids, including 2nd and even third for Zaha, Iwobi, and rumours of Suso, Ziyech, Hirving Lozano (please no) and Ismaïla Sarr) CF Moises Kean if they sort the other winger and especially CB, they are really a dangerous team Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 BAY BYE Leroy Sane ‘tells Man City team-mates he wants to quit and join Bayern Munich before transfer deadline’ https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9665875/leroy-sane-bayern-munich-man-city-transfer-latest/ it is The Sun so caveat emptor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Pizy said: Everton acting like a guy who just won the Mega Millions jackpot. Throwing money at every flashy thing they see. I swear they've bid for about 15 players this summer. Whats weird is that they've just unveiled plans for a new stadium just a week ago. Usually that means tightening the purse strings, not going crazy with the spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, Pizy said: Everton acting like a guy who just won the Mega Millions jackpot. Throwing money at every flashy thing they see. I swear they've bid for about 15 players this summer. Whats weird is that they've just unveiled plans for a new stadium just a week ago. Usually that means tightening the purse strings, not going crazy with the spending. I don't think we're in any position to criticise another club for spending money. The new stadium is on the docks not exactly prime real estate unlike London where rates are extortionate. Spurs just tarted up their stadium and will be making money hand over fist, Man City and West Ham were practically given stadiums only Arsenal have actually moved ground and paid for it themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: for whatever reason then its bunkers, Don't want to be pedantic son but I've noticed you saying this a lot and fair play your English is excellent but the word is bonkers. Atomiswave and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,383 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said: I don't think we're in any position to criticise another club for spending money. The new stadium is on the docks not exactly prime real estate unlike London where rates are extortionate. Spurs just tarted up their stadium and will be making money hand over fist, Man City and West Ham were practically given stadiums only Arsenal have actually moved ground and paid for it themselves. Not criticizing, just pointing out how odd it is. A club that has never spent huge money just out of nowhere becoming potentially the highest spenders this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,529 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Vesper said: if they want top 4, they need more a CB for sure, it is a an absolute must but now (atm) here is their starting XI GK Pickford CB Michael Keane CB Yerry Mina or Mason Holgate (they only have 3 CB's at remotely starting level, Pennington is dross) <<<< desperately need upgrade here LB Lucas Digne RB Djibril Sidibe DMF Jean-Philippe Gbamin CMF André Gomes (lots of depth, and potentially Abdoulaye Doucouré) AMF Gylfi Sigurdsson LW Richarlison RW (who knows, as I type they have bids, including 2nd and even third for Zaha, Iwobi, and rumours of Suso, Ziyech, Hirving Lozano (please no) and Ismaïla Sarr) CF Moises Kean if they sort the other winger and especially CB, they are really a dangerous team With Zaha in, they are better team than us imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pizy said: Not criticizing, just pointing out how odd it is. A club that has never spent huge money just out of nowhere becoming potentially the highest spenders this summer. Basically us in 2003 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: With Zaha in, they are better team than us imo only if they sort that CB nightmare (sounds familiar, lolol, looking at you Arse) but yes, IF they land a decent CB and Zaha and if Kean and Gbamin show up to leel they can I agree their wingers (Zaha and Richarlison) blow us away atm IF they land Zaha (I say they fail) MF and fullbacks are now rock solid and Kean has crazy potential (no guarantees though, as the EPL is the death of many potentially great strikers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Pizy said: Everton bid £70m for Zaha. A medium sized, midtable club can afford to bid £70m on a single player! The money nearly every PL club has these days is bonkers! 😂 I love the ambition Everton are showing though. Vesper and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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