Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[akgw13 867]

2 hours ago, gadget said:

1. Would love him. Our CM's seem packed for next season if so + i think it'll be him or Cesc to play i'm not sure both can play together game in game out

2. A LW is the position i think we need to improve the most. should be one of the highest priorities. Zaha would be another option 

3. Obviously wouldnt say no to him but more of a want than a need. Zouma and Rudi could fit that strong athletic CB build

4. If Morata leaves we need a top striker with Bats also pushing with his hopefully renewed confidence 

5. Happy for Willian to leave, i'm not too sure on martial myself 

 

Main change i'm hoping for is we ditch the 5 at the back and got more attacking. Id like something like:

Tbo

Dave Christensen Rudi emerson/New LB

Kante Jorginho

RLC

Bailey ST Hazard

 

The way I view the CM roles next season depend alot on Jorginho/Seri. but in the midfield 3 Sarri likes a deep lying pacemaker, a B2B, and an Attacker with a goal threat.

Deep Lying: Jorginho/Cesc/Ampadu(to grow/learn)

B2B: Kante/Bakayoko(I think he will come good, a patterned system could make the game easier for him)

ATM: Seri(?)/RLC/Barkley. I viewed Seri as a deep lying but his long range shot and playmaking seems like he can play this role, Barkley is my dark horse for a 10 goal season in this position(EXTREMELY optimistic point, im aware) RLC would just be splendid here no matter what.

 

                              Jorginho

                  Kante              Seri/RLC

 

I agree with your point on KK, definite luxury but he is so great. Striker mentions I agree with as well.

[DDA 10,284]

Fred to Man United!

 

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15 minutes ago, DDA said:

Fred to Man United!

 

not worried. Fred is a poor man's Kante with a bit more goals to him but thats it.

[Pizy 19,377]

United and Mourinho busy early indeed. Fred looks done and they've apparently inquired about some other super expensive players.

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10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

United and Mourinho busy early indeed. Fred looks done and they've apparently inquired about some other super expensive players.

They will be the biggest spenders in summer that's for sure. But as long as they got Mou at the helm I doubt they will surpass City. Mou will never change and everyone knows that. Even if they would sign Neymar, Bale and Mbappe, he would still be pumping crosses to Fellaini in attack when he needs a goal and he would still surrender posession in every game against a side who can play football. Utd have invested hugely for years now and assembled a big big squad with at least 2 very good players for every position all of them in or approaching their best years yet they keep buying and buying instead of letting that squad settle. Mourinho needs this constant influx to keep the players on their toes and so he does not need to build tactics and formation around a team or actually develop some attacking tactics. All his magic is loading his box with players to keep it tight at the back and hope for the individual class of his star players to score a few goals up front. This time around because of his fetish for big strong players he failed to buy genuine class though. The 200m they spunked on Lukaku and Pogba could have been spent on real world class players in their positions. Fred might seem an anomaly here but he is likely not to be a game changer.

[Cripen 110]

On 22.05.2018 at 6:45 AM, AOIRO said:

Out  140m

Morata(50m)  Batshuayi(50m)  Drinkwater(25m)  Zappacosta(15m)  Cahill

 

IN 190m

Lewandowski(70m)  LeonBaily(70m)  Jorginho(50m) 

Where you get this prices from?  I doubt that Bayern let go Lewa for 70m, think that they prefer to stick with him more than sell for less than 100m, Rummenigge implied that multiple times. Also I'm very skeptical about Moses as fullback.

[Pizy 19,377]

You have Sané, Sterling, Bernardo Silva, David Silva, and Kevin De Bruyne. You've just walked the league with and unstoppable attack, had a crazy goal difference, and finished on a record 100 points.

So what do they do now? Oh, just target Mahrez and Isco for a combined ~€180m. How is anyone meant to compete when City literally have unlimited money and are not bothered or restrained by FFP at all?

[DDA 10,284]

24 minutes ago, Pizy said:

You have Sané, Sterling, Bernardo Silva, David Silva, and Kevin De Bruyne. You've just walked the league with and unstoppable attack, had a crazy goal difference, and finished on a record 100 points.

So what do they do now? Oh, just target Mahrez and Isco for a combined ~€180m. How is anyone meant to compete when City literally have unlimited money and are not bothered or restrained by FFP at all?

It's actually taking the piss now. Surely they are breaking FFP rules.

[Clockwork 1,794]

Really wish we can go after Hakim Ziyech, he would flourish under Sarri. One of the most creative players in Europe. Ideally i want us to add Jorginho and Ziyech to our midfield. 

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Players that I think should be sold, Pedro, Willian, Bakayoko if a good offer comes in ideally at least £20 million and Gary Cahill, maybe Fabregas too to get him off the wage bill, he's struggled a lot more this season and he has made some disastrous mistakes this season but I really wouldn't mind if Fabregas was moved on next summer instead.

[LAM09 7,100]

Really wish we can go after Hakim Ziyech, he would flourish under Sarri. One of the most creative players in Europe. Ideally i want us to add Jorginho and Ziyech to our midfield. 

I think the jump would be too big for Ziyech right now

[Pizy 19,377]

Lot of big time moves happening amongst our rivals already. 

-Liverpool have Naby Keita incoming already and are going hard after Fekir who seems very likely to be their #1 target.

-City are after Jorginho and Mahrez

-United look dead certain to sign Fred and Alderweireld and now Alex Sandro as well.

Obviously we need our managerial situation sorted first, but hopefully transfer stuff is well advanced already.

[Jase 43,479]

On 5/25/2018 at 0:22 AM, Pizy said:

You have Sané, Sterling, Bernardo Silva, David Silva, and Kevin De Bruyne. You've just walked the league with and unstoppable attack, had a crazy goal difference, and finished on a record 100 points.

So what do they do now? Oh, just target Mahrez and Isco for a combined ~€180m. How is anyone meant to compete when City literally have unlimited money and are not bothered or restrained by FFP at all?

It's Mundo Deportivo. It's a Barcelona publication. It's one day before Real Madrid's biggest game of the season. Go figure.

[Jase 43,479]

10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Lot of big time moves happening amongst our rivals already. 

-Liverpool have Naby Keita incoming already and are going hard after Fekir who seems very likely to be their #1 target.

-City are after Jorginho and Mahrez

-United look dead certain to sign Fred and Alderweireld and now Alex Sandro as well.

Obviously we need our managerial situation sorted first, but hopefully transfer stuff is well advanced already.

 

 

[Clockwork 1,794]

7 hours ago, LAM09 said:

8 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Really wish we can go after Hakim Ziyech, he would flourish under Sarri. One of the most creative players in Europe. Ideally i want us to add Jorginho and Ziyech to our midfield. 

I think the jump would be too big for Ziyech right now

I really don't, i think he would be ideal to play the Hamsik/zielinski role that Sarri had Napoli. Just a great fit that i can't see going wrong. 

[LAM09 7,100]

I really don't, i think he would be ideal to play the Hamsik/zielinski role that Sarri had Napoli. Just a great fit that i can't see going wrong. 

Jump from Eredivise to EPL for playmakers hasn't been successful recently (Delay, Klaassen, etc).

[Clockwork 1,794]

10 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

12 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I really don't, i think he would be ideal to play the Hamsik/zielinski role that Sarri had Napoli. Just a great fit that i can't see going wrong. 

Jump from Eredivise to EPL for playmakers hasn't been successful recently (Delay, Klaassen, etc).

I wasen't too high on them, and they were poor fits tbf. Ziyech is really on a another level to them. 

[LAM09 7,100]

I wasen't too high on them, and they were poor fits tbf. Ziyech is really on a another to level to them. 

Might be compared to the latter but Depay is probably the best player to come out of the league for a while.

[Clockwork 1,794]

16 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

18 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I wasen't too high on them, and they were poor fits tbf. Ziyech is really on a another to level to them. 

Might be compared to the latter but Depay is probably the best player to come out of the league for a while.

I didn't think any those players were ever going to a top player, including Depay. So it wasen't about the steps they took, they were just never going to be good enough. I think Ziyech can be special player in Sarri team, if you disagree i guess we see things differently.

 

[LAM09 7,100]

I didn't think any those players were ever going to a top player, including Depay. So it wasen't about the steps they took, they were just never going to be good enough. I think Ziyech can be special player in Sarri team, if you disagree i guess we see things differently.
 

Fair enough. I've seen Ziyech play quite a bit for Morocco & Ajax over the years to see his talent. Sarri isn't going to transform someone overnight IMO.

He's similar to Cahanoglu, another one we were heavily linked to before his ban and has since gone to Milan with mixed reviews. I'd still prefer Nainggolan to fill that area for the right price (£20-25m).