Henrique 9,133 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 "Anxious Chelsea fans are affecting the players...." post-match from AVB.=o Now he is blaming the fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I will back him, but he has to take some of the blaime for deciding that the old guard still had a place in the team and not try and give much needed changes to the squad. Having the same old guard that think they still have untouchable status because of Jose are a major cause of the problem in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Fair point. I don't think Europa league would be a disaster for us, at the end of the day there's still a trophy to win there, if we did fail to qualify & won the europa league, this is something to build on.It would be nice to get a European trophy at least. Only bad thing about losing to Valencia is, it will be a sacking for AVB, no way will Roman put up with that, i'm still doubting if Roman is even going to give AVB another chance if he doesn't win a trophy this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It would be nice to get a European trophy at least. Only bad thing about losing to Valencia is, it will be a sacking for AVB, no way will Roman put up with that, i'm still doubting if Roman is even going to give AVB another chance if he doesn't win a trophy this season.The way Roman has behaved with previous managers this is looking the most likely outcome, AVB sacked, Hiddink brought in, season saved in some way. I don't believe he'll remain patient with AVB. As much as I'd like him to, another manager sacked & we become even more of a laughing stock with our rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 If Hiddink comes back, expect to see Drogba change his mind and get a one year extention, Lampard getting a new five year contract and again the old guard still the dominate force. They will improve for a little while, then play shit and not care. Manager gets sacked and the cycle will continue. The fans will still forgive the players and beg for them to stay and it will never end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The way Roman has behaved with previous managers this is looking the most likely outcome, AVB sacked, Hiddink brought in, season saved in some way. I don't believe he'll remain patient with AVB. As much as I'd like him to, another manager sacked & we become even more of a laughing stock with our rivals.It's a big shame too, because AVB doesn't have the right squad for the football he doesn't want to play, it's evident. I don't think it's his fault. Where as Carlo last season, played the same players out of form constantly and couldn't motivate them the slightest, they played like they didn't give a shit. Malouda was constantly getting played when Zhirkov was more effective than him. Where this season the players are older, what do you expect, there not exactly going to get better, it's beyond me why first team players wernt bought at the begining of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I don't want him sacked, but he's going to have to find a new way to play. It would be nice if he gets rid of the high defensive line too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,486 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It would be nice if he gets rid of the high defensive line too.Doesn't look like its going to happen, considering how he defends it to death in every interview...But you have to admit, the players can definitely take more care. They know that this type of tactic requires them to be alert for the entire 90 mins, but yet again the same kind of mistakes...especially for the first goalBertrand (who was largely faultless for the rest of the match) switches off and allows Bellamy to get behind him, Luiz plays him onside, and Alex was nowhere near Maxi when the guy arrives for Bellamy's cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yes lets sack him, sack him and let the underperforming players get yet another chance and a new contract while the new manager "asseses" them.Infact lets bring back Scolari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yes lets sack him, sack him and let the underperforming players get yet another chance and a new contract while the new manager "asseses" them.Infact lets bring back Scolari Tominho, our squad is not good enough to match european giants or to match City and United in domestic season, but we both know this squad can do a lot better than its actually doing.You might say you want VB staying because a lot of reasons, but suggesting he has nothing to do with our corrent form and bad results is not a wise move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Tominho, our squad is not good enough to match european giants or to match City and United in domestic season, but we both know this squad can do a lot better than its actually doing.You might say you want VB staying because a lot of reasons, but suggesting he has nothing to do with our corrent form and bad results is not a wise move.He's made a few mistakes granted but are we honestly in a worse position than last year? last year we looked finished atleast this time we have young players the likes of Mata, Danny, Luiz and co around.All sacking him will do is give the oldies another chance, and while Hiddink coming back will probally give us the short term invincibility factor it did last time, we will end up in even bigger shit couple of years down the line when Malouda and co will be given "another chance" after yet again shining under Hiddink.We can't keep sacking gaffers especially without letting them chop the deadwood and bringing in his own players first, if AVB is still struggling after that then question him but for now we need to stand by him IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 He's made a few mistakes granted but are we honestly in a worse position than last year? last year we looked finished atleast this time we have young players the likes of Mata, Danny, Luiz and co around.All sacking him will do is give the oldies another chance, and while Hiddink coming back will probally give us the short term invincibility factor it did last time, we will end up in even bigger shit couple of years down the line when Malouda and co will be given "another chance" after yet again shining under Hiddink.We can't keep sacking gaffers especially without letting them chop the deadwood and bringing in his own players first, if AVB is still struggling after that then question him but for now we need to stand by him IMHO.IMO Villas Boas is not the right man for a new era. He doesnt look a guy that know a lot of things about the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hiddink can stay here for at least 4 years. AVB is not good enough to stay that long.Is Brazil going to win the 2014 WC? Who do you think will be the player of the tournament? Will Fat RonAldo ever get back in shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 avb is exactly like obama, came with so much promise. One has runied the country he is in charge of and the other takes a worldclass football team to not qualifty for cl and go out in group stages(if you think were beating valencia, your a thick fken moron). Stop being so fucken nieave people thinking he is a savior. The way its set up at porto I could win a treble there. Cut our losses. Hiddink in for the next 3 years, he will get results while rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampy 110 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Mate, you've got an AVB avatar on and you're on here saying we gotta sack him, plastic much ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 avb is exactly like obama, came with so much promise. One has runied the country he is in charge of and the other takes a worldclass football team to not qualifty for cl and go out in group stages(if you think were beating valencia, your a thick fken moron). Stop being so fucken nieave people thinking he is a savior. The way its set up at porto I could win a treble there. Cut our losses. Hiddink in for the next 3 years, he will get results while rebuilding.To say Obama ruined the USA is laughable and a complete disgrace. The USA has been fucked long before Obama came into power. But I'm not getting into another political argument with an utter idiot.#BackAVB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 The way its set up at porto I could win a treble there. Cut our losses. Hiddink in for the next 3 years, he will get results while rebuilding.If the records he broke at Porto were so easy then please explain to me why no one else including Jose Mourinho and Sir Bobby Robson never broke them previously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 To say Obama ruined the USA is laughable and a complete disgrace. The USA has been fucked long before Obama came into power. But I'm not getting into another political argument with an utter idiot.#BackAVBhahah, ok Obama didn't walk into a good situation, likewise avb. Both have managed to take bad situations and make them worse.avb out Hiddink in? unless avb can turn it around and make this last month an outlier.definitely obama out trump in.And I think the avb Obama analogy has to many similarities to not make a joke of. If I have offended you, well I really couldn't careless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamford Heart 16 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hiddink in for the next 3 years, he will get results while rebuilding.by this way we'll never rebuild the team , replacing manegers ain't a solution at all !!If AVB built his own team right , he'll break all the records of Jose and I do believe that .So I still trust AVB more than anyone . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 plastic? Mature response to anyone who conjures a different opinion than yours? Its a bloody avatar I couldn't be seriously bothered to change, nor have I lost 100 percent faith, just 99.4 %,. And I put this avatar up when we were all seduced by avb's glazzy shave and impress speech abilities(sounds familiar right??????). I was a suck and naive admittedly at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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