Dylan_91 90 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If im being honest the ref wasn't as bad as everyone says he was. Every single decision was 50/50 (apart from Drogbas sending off). Bosingwa probably should have been sent off considering johnny evans was sent off for something similar against city, and before anybody says terry was gonna get back, he wasnt. He was behind the play and SWP is too fast for him. It just wasn't our day but to say the ref is a disgrace is kinda stupid. Every decision was arguably correct. If it was the other way round i think everyone on here would be praising the ref. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray. 217 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I think we could have and should have picked up a point yesterday. Very impressed with the way we performed when we were down to 9 men, that just showed how we were the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak 22 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Bosingwa probably should have been sent off considering johnny evans was sent off for something similar against cityBosingwa made a fair challenge. There was a bit of pushing and pulling from both SWP and Bosingwa..and both of them fell at the same time...the ref didn't even see it clearly..so i dont know how he gave a red card. It should have been a free-kick and a yellow card, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_91 90 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Bosingwa made a fair challenge. There was a bit of pushing and pulling from both SWP and Bosingwa..and both of them fell at the same time...the ref didn't even see it clearly..so i dont know how he gave a red card. It should have been a free-kick and a yellow card, nothing more.So it was a fair challenge but should still have been a yellow card and a free kick? Doesn't make sense. Sorry but in my opinion swp pulled him slightly which happens all the time, however bosingwa stupidly pulled him over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Bos pulled his shorts, that's automatically a foul... not a red card though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxgba 306 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 After some careful consideration, I've come to the conclusion that, although I was raging at the time, Bosingwa's red is justifiable. Foy may have been lacking some common sense sending him off, but he was refereeing to the rulebook all day long. Well, at least when it concerned us he did. Wright-Phillips was through on goal, and would have been able to produce a shot on goal had Bos not hauled him down, therefore denying him a goalscoring opportunity. Seeing Cech's positioning, it would have been difficult for SWP to score, but the decisions aren't made on the likelihood of scoring per se.When down to ten men, and even nine, we were still, by far, the better side. We were unlucky to come away from the game with nothing. On another day, we'd have hit about five or six against them, because they were woeful at best. Although they entered the top-half after the game on Sunday, there's no way they'll be there come the end of the season. They'll be in, or around, the relegation zone. A poor side, with a bunch of overpaid, erratic and controversial players. That only leads to one thing... disaster.Enough of QPR anyway, that's done with now. Bring on Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If im being honest the ref wasn't as bad as everyone says he was. Every single decision was 50/50 (apart from Drogbas sending off). Bosingwa probably should have been sent off considering johnny evans was sent off for something similar against city, and before anybody says terry was gonna get back, he wasnt. He was behind the play and SWP is too fast for him. It just wasn't our day but to say the ref is a disgrace is kinda stupid. Every decision was arguably correct. If it was the other way round i think everyone on here would be praising the ref. SorryYes I agree that every decision that he gave was 50/50. I can see why he gave the QPR pen and Bos red even if I don't agree with either. But at least I can see why he gave them. But what about the decisions that he didn't give? I.E. our 3 penalty appeals? Luiz's was a stonewall pen. And Lamps' should have been a penalty too. Where's the fucking consistency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_91 90 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Bos pulled his shorts, that's automatically a foul... not a red card thoughSo was Johnny Evans not a sending off then because he only pulled his shirt? He was last man it had to be a sending off no matter what type of foul it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_91 90 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yes I agree that every decision that he gave was 50/50. I can see why he gave the QPR pen and Bos red even if I don't agree with either. But at least I can see why he gave them. But what about the decisions that he didn't give? I.E. our 3 penalty appeals? Luiz's was a stonewall pen. And Lamps' should have been a penalty too. Where's the fucking consistency?I agree that they could have been pens but are very rarely given. Luiz's foul was much easier to see and more blatant and was therefore given. If every shirt pull in the box was given there'd be 10 pens every game. Thats what i mean by 50/50 sometimes theyre given, sometimes theyre not but we need to stop calling the ref a disgrace and accept it. we've had games like this where everythings gone our way and nobody goes mad at the ref then do they? Im just being honest unlike most people here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 So was Johnny Evans not a sending off then because he only pulled his shirt? He was last man it had to be a sending off no matter what type of foul it was.Haven't seen Evans's sending off. Terry was there to cover... although in retrospect it was a 50/50 call, still think the penalty and the red for Bosingwa were too soft (although by the rulebook it was a red if you don't consider Terry to be covering). Fair enough, let him do it, but do it for both teams ffs... he was biased towards QPR. And like AVB said, many of the small decision went against us also, not only the big decisions. He was biased beyond belief, totally controlled by the home crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_91 90 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Haven't seen Evans's sending off. Terry was there to cover... although in retrospect it was a 50/50 call, still think the penalty and the red for Bosingwa were too soft (although by the rulebook it was a red if you don't consider Terry to be covering). Fair enough, let him do it, but do it for both teams ffs... he was biased towards QPR. And like AVB said, many of the small decision went against us also, not only the big decisions. He was biased beyond belief, totally controlled by the home crowd.personally dont think Terry would have got back but its all down to interpretation. I agree they did get most of the decisions but you just have to get on with it. I dont think the ref was purposely biased against chelsea, i just think it happens in football and most decisions just happened to go qpr's way. I can guarantee throughout the course of the season we'll get all of the decisions in a game and everybody will say he had a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 perhaps, Foy's still a cunt though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_91 90 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 haha i do agree. ive always hated that prick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Agree, Terry wouldn't have gotten back in time.I agree that they could have been pens but are very rarely given. Luiz's foul was much easier to see and more blatant and was therefore given. If every shirt pull in the box was given there'd be 10 pens every game. Thats what i mean by 50/50 sometimes theyre given, sometimes theyre not but we need to stop calling the ref a disgrace and accept it. we've had games like this where everythings gone our way and nobody goes mad at the ref then do they? Im just being honest unlike most people hereThe foul on Luiz from the corner was unlike most fouls that usually happen during set pieces. Usually it's just a little shirt pull. But the QPR player (was it Helguson?) had BOTH arms around him and pulled him to the ground. Definite penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_91 90 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 he didnt really pull him to the ground. he had hold of luiz and luiz jumped. I do agree it was a pen though. However Carvalho did that for us on pretty much every corner. I see where your coming from but i would have been suprised if he gave it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 If im being honest the ref wasn't as bad as everyone says he was. Every single decision was 50/50 (apart from Drogbas sending off). Bosingwa probably should have been sent off considering johnny evans was sent off for something similar against city, and before anybody says terry was gonna get back, he wasnt. He was behind the play and SWP is too fast for him. It just wasn't our day but to say the ref is a disgrace is kinda stupid. Every decision was arguably correct. If it was the other way round i think everyone on here would be praising the ref. SorryI would agree with his decisions if he had showed more consistency. A ref can be strict or not, that depends on his style. But if he awards them a penalty for something like the foul Luiz committed then we should have a couple as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 It's not so much the decisions he gave, it's the ones he didn't give.It's hard to defend the inconsistencies, that's what AVB said as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Mikel on the formation used when down to 9: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 QPR 1-0 ChelseaFull Match and Highlights Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Okay after calming down and watching the highlights and key moments of the match all over again, I've come to a few conclusions and observations... mainly about Luiz. The Bosingwa red situation, I mean the situation where SWP cut through, was largely Luiz's mistake. He made a bad pass upfront (although Drogba made no effort to get on the end of the pass) and tracked back poorly, allowed a pass to go through his legs when he had acres of empty space behind him for SWP to run in to... This left Bosingwa no choice but to run with SWP who clearly outruns him, Bosingwa was on the wrong side because SWP ran to his right (hence the short pulling by Bosingwa, hoping that the ref doesn't see it and that SWP won't be able to run away).. Jose had no choice but to go in hard or SWP would've been through with Terry being in a 50/50 position to cover. In retrospect the red could be seen as the correct call and Luiz will have to take responsibility in letting this situation unfold in first place, Bosingwa just got unlucky and panicked.The penalty conceded by Luiz was a foul, but it is rarely given in EPL and Luiz must've had this in the back of his mind. Helguson made it look worse, so the soft call was given. Luiz let the ball bounce beforehand, but the ball was travelling pretty quickly over his head, he misjudged the flight off the ball. He did that one or two more times, misjudging the flight of the ball. Luiz made a few rookie mistakes which led to bad situations for us. Luckily we were facing a shit team, they weren't able to capitalize.Nevertheless, the ref didn't show us mercy but did to QPR.. that's the main thing to criticize about, inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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