Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Every team knows that Mou isnt fancying Mata. You dont have to come out and say this in public. You just have to look at his stats of his playing time and how he was used/subbed. Still dont think that we will sell him now.@The only place to be: Well if you arent taking the 2 past years in to his account, than its clear why you cant emphasize with him. if you have been the star of the team for 2 years (more or less) and than you are transofrming in to a player, who cant even play a full match if he starts, its normal, that you get angry. you cant just blend out what he has done for our club. he wasnt even shouting at Mou or some stuff like that, he was just angry, thats it. he also didnt run to the press and whined about it.Naaa if we could doubt anyone will leave the team now before their contract expires but he will want to go like Kevin, so all Mou is saying is that he can goes if he wants, but we aren't actively trying to sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Every team knows that Mou isnt fancying Mata. You dont have to come out and say this in public. You just have to look at his stats of his playing time and how he was used/subbed. Still dont think that we will sell him now.@The only place to be: Well if you arent taking the 2 past years in to his account, than its clear why you cant emphasize with him. if you have been the star of the team for 2 years (more or less) and than you are transofrming in to a player, who cant even play a full match if he starts, its normal, that you get angry. you cant just blend out what he has done for our club. he wasnt even shouting at Mou or some stuff like that, he was just angry, thats it. he also didnt run to the press and whined about it.He was a great player for us...but we were a poor team. Maybe that's his limit. Maybe he can't be part of the team we're building. Not really gonna shed a tear about that. Barbara, Fulham Broadway and BlueLion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Football game is much more than just playing in it. Current Mata is one frustrated player. No matter what he does, it must be very hard for him to please Jose. The guy will not adapt to Jose´s linking, he simply does not know how. Therefore, we will see more outbursts by him, soon. Mouri_Matic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnePound 22 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 If he has a gripe he needs to take it up with Jose out of sight of cameras, not whilst being subbed for Jose to see later.Everyone has to fight for their place, Mata ain't no different."Oscar is my No. 10"There isn't nothing to fight for, nothing to change. Mourinho made his choice months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Football game is much more than just playing in it. Current Mata is one frustrated player. No matter what he does, it must be very hard for him to please Jose. The guy will not adapt to Jose´s linking, he simply does not know how. Therefore, we will see more outbursts by him, soon.then he will get less playing time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Essien was never a starter. Cech wasnt dropped?!Mikel wasnt a starter back then. Cahill was never a starter. Torres was shit since he is here. Schürrle is a new buy and wasnt a starter. Same goes for Ba and Etoo. Cole was already awful for the most part last year.Comparing their situations to Mata? Mata was our BEST PLAYER twice in a row. and you compraing him to some new buys + players who have been shit for years or past it or whatever. None of the named was as influential as Mata has been in the last 2 seasons. Also Mata hasnt MOANED. he was jut angry being subbed, did he moan to the press or some stuff like that? And in contraire to Mata, they are at least playing at their best position.If the Bison can sit on the bench, then so can Mata.It was a poor reaction, and one you would expect from a kid not a 25 year old veteran on this team. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I have a horrible feeling in my stomach that Mata will leave in January .. .. PSG is not a bad shout. He almost signed for them in the summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 "Oscar is my No. 10"There isn't nothing to fight for, nothing to change. Mourinho made his choice months ago.And Jose also claimed he can play wide, he can, but he can play wide but needs the energy of Oscar and Willian, he hasn't got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 then he will get less playing timeOf course he will. We all know, Jose is my way or the highway & Mata either abide, adapt or he can walk or sit on the bench & play the odd 25 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 If the Bison can sit on the bench, then so can Mata.It was a poor reaction, and one you would expect from a kid not a 25 year old veteran on this team.Not really sure that is the right word. And like others have said, Mata will need to overcome this adversity if he wants to become a regular here. Remember Terry under Rafa, Lampard under AVB, Drogba under Scolari all endured hardship but eventually triumphed because of their patience. Mata is the same, but if he wants to leave because he is having a tough time and believe he don't need/deserve to have to fight this then he isn't legend material and can leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cchuka 99 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Mou's subs were spot on. I expected a lot more from Mata & Shurrle. They have only themselves to blame for being subbed early. Oscar and Willian were spectacular (sans that unnecessary dive). Hazard -Oscar -Willian are making a strong case for their inclusion in the starting XII expect Mata to stay, but if he's unhappy here and feels he needs to leave, then he should; no hard feelings. He has helped us immensely over the past few seasons and deserves to be happy here or wherever else he decides to go.In Mou I TrustPS - LOL @ David Moyes Thendo and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Should of swap him for Rooney in the summer...But than again, people on this board actually think Mata is better than Rooney... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 He is definitely out of his best form, but I'm still not giving up on him. Having an in-form Mata would be of great use to us, he just needs to find that piece of magic again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Should of swap him for Rooney in the summer...But than again, people on this board actually think Mata is better than Rooney...At the time Rooney only had 2 years left, MU didn't want to sale at any cost, Mata was still part of Mou's plan and was worth more than Rooney based on last season, swap wouldn't make sense then unless they add in something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Korea 734 Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 1, 2014 He is definitely out of his best form, but I'm still not giving up on him. Having an in-form Mata would be of great use to us, he just needs to find that piece of magic again.It has nothing to do with form......Its the fact that he is playing on the wings and in the center, rather than staying mainly in the center role. In addition, he is required to use a lot of energy pressing..Mata still is the same player he was last season, its just his role and current tactics arent beneficial for him to have incredible stats.... Barbara, kellzfresh, The Skipper and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 At the time Rooney only had 2 years left, MU didn't want to sale at any cost, Mata was still part of Mou's plan and was worth more than Rooney based on last season, swap wouldn't make sense then unless they add in something.Mata was never part of Mourinho plan....Mourinho plan was to slowly fade out Mata so he wouldnt get the supporters disapproval for the direct sale of Mata.....In addition, Rooney didnt want to be at United or for Moyes... Had we swap and added cash, we might of had a chance at him. rooney fits the team better than Torres, eto, ba or lukaku. laura90 and OnePound 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 He is definitely out of his best form, but I'm still not giving up on him. Having an in-form Mata would be of great use to us, he just needs to find that piece of magic again.Where should he look for it, on the bench ? That´s where he is gonny be most of the times. Jose will never forgive him for today´s rants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 1, 2014 He was a great player for us...but we were a poor team.Really? So adding Eto'o, Schurrle and Willian made us not poor?He's been awful this season, he doesn't fit the system and he was awful today. He deserved to be subbed and he didn't need to make the fuss he did. I'm only disappointed the cameras didn't cut to him when Oscar actually started leading this team.He had a couple of bad games which happened to every single player of our team. How was he awful today? he was good, he played a lot of key passes, you can watch it again.. He didn't deserve to be subbed for that. Oscar got lucky with that deflected cross in Torres goal which was a critical moment in the game. Mustafa, chelseathebest, laura90 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Just browse through some UK papers now. Every cunt has already reported Mata can leave if he wants, ADMITS JOSE is the headline.As I said, Chelsea is not well liked in fucking UK, any small quarrel is blown out of proportions, just to damage the club. Christo191 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Really? So adding Eto'o, Schurrle and Willian made us not poor?He had a couple of bad games which happened to every single player of our team. How was he awful today? he was good, he played a lot of key passes, you can watch it again.. He didn't deserve to be subbed for that. Oscar got lucky with that deflected cross in Torres goal which was a critical moment in the game.You can believe that second part if you want, but Oscar and Willian's introduction saw us add pace and precision to our play. Personally I'm not too fussed who plays, so long as they work hard and produce results. At the moment that's Oscar and Mourinho doesn't seem willing to change his number 10 any time soon.Adding a manager like Mourinho and players like Willian made us 'not poor'. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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