Juan Mata

[zolayes 14,489]

Not the same. Drogba didnt go to United. And please refrain from calling Turks "the turds".

oh are you one of those who joined after the CL draw was made ,, read the thread they ruined ,,,

[GoldChelsea 7]

Honteux de vendre Juan, comment on peux le vendre ??

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Are you ashamed of Mata?

For moving to United? Yes, especially if he had other offers, but that is his decision and I respect him. I'm grateful of his contribution, but you're totally missing my point. If Oscar fucks off to Arsenal, would you be happy wearing a shirt with his name on it? If you said yes, I'd call you a liar.

[sutro 1,026]

Why do people suddenly need to remove names from shirts? I mean he had an amazing 2,5 years at this club and helped us to achieve great things. He was part of CFC and now he is gone, but nothing can nullify his contribution at the time. I've still got Joe Cole 10 shirt from the double winning 2009/2010 year, never in my mind to even start scratching it off.

I wouldnt do it but i can perfectly understand why they do it.

And what he has done for the club doesnt matter much in Mata's case tbf, the big issue is that he joined one of our biggest rivals so it make sense why loads of people are dissapointed in him

[Polo7 3,496]

oh are you one of those who joined after the CL draw was made ,, read the thread they ruined ,,,

There's good and bad in everyone. Just because a few Turkish people ruined a thread, doesnt give you the right to undermine all Turks.

[NishC300 1,865]

I think that horrible moment when we see Mata smiling in front of the cameras holding a Man United shirt is coming nearer....

This move has just left me emotionally devastated.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

For moving to United? Yes, especially if he had other offers, but that is his decision and I respect him. I'm grateful of his contribution, but you're totally missing my point. If Oscar fucks off to Arsenal, would you be happy wearing a shirt with his name on it? If you said yes, I'd call you a liar.

I wouldnt do it but i can perfectly understand why they do it.

And what he has done for the club doesnt matter much in Mata's case tbf, the big issue is that he joined one of our biggest rivals so it make sense why loads of people are dissapointed in him

Fair play, didn't mean to stir up anything just genuinely was trying to see this from others' perspective. I guess I'm being a bit too rational and practical here.

[Laylabelle 9,341]

Different story altogether for Drogba. A club legend who has hardly joined what we'd call a rival club. I still wear his shirt with pride, as I will do with my Lampard, Cech, Terry, Essien shirts.

Exactly!Drogba didnt go to a rival club.Play them when drawn against thats it.Whereas Mata and Man U will always be there and creating goals and scoring that could effect us,play us twice a season if not more cup runs etc.End of the day your shirt your decision.Rare to see Arsenal fans with RVP and if Rooney left to join us his Man U shirts will quickly dissapear.Aint a new thing

[Heisenberg 1,824]

My opinion of Juan is very simple, he cant deal with José's standard and moved to another club because mentally he is weak, very weak.Disguisting mentality.

[GoldChelsea 7]

Comment on a pu le vendre ?

[Jase 43,479]

Honteux de vendre Juan, comment on peux le vendre ??

Comment on a pu le vendre ?

Post in English please..

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Fair play, didn't mean to stir up anything just genuinely was trying to see this from others' perspective. I guess I'm being a bit too rational and practical here.

Sorry if I came across a little strong. Just felt like I was being accused of being a Scouser and burning my shirt! I thought it was quite resourceful!

No-one is trying to negate Juan's amazing contribution. If he'd have gone to Spain or France or Italy I'd happily be sat with his name on the shirt, reminiscing over the good times he had in a Blues shirt. But because it's United, it doesn't feel right to me.

[laura90 556]

Player leaves after he is being sidelined by the manager and made surplus of requirements to the club that offered more money for him that any club every would. And he is labelled as traitor.

Do you have a proof that PSG wanted him?

How do you know that this club would sell him for less money.

He opted to go to United.

If Hazard show intention to go to PSG or Real next summer, would club just do as he wish? No question asked.

If you become unwanted at your work and the closest competition offers you better terms and treatment and persuades you that you are welcomed and needed there, would you turn it down and wait for you boss to start trust in you someday, if ever?

It's no brainer really. It happens every day.

Athletes go where they are appreciated, that is reality in every sport. Nobody, including yourself, would choose to be somewhere he doesn't feel to belong, and if you are claiming otherwise, you are hypocrite.

He would have never been better in defense than Oscar and he would have never gained pace to play as a winger here, even if he tried, there was no place for him and he realized it.

They call us plastic fans. It takes one to go trough couple of this pages to realize why.

I don't even have stomach for that.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Comment on a pu le vendre ?

Bienvenue a TalkChelsea. Il ya une commande ici, pour tous les membres du TalkChelsea à parler en anglais. Le membre peut parler dans une autre langue, mais le membre doit donner une traduction en anglais aussi. Merci.

[GoldChelsea 7]

Sorry

Désolé

It's frustrating not to have a forum for Chelsea French...

Mais c'est vraiment frustrant de pas avoir de forum francophone de Chelsea...

[Hutcho 8,443]

Sorted.

[Svita 10 186]

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Mata wasn't getting played and was never getting to get regular time under Mourinho so he wanted to go elsewhere. He didn't go to United to spite Chelsea supporters. How can you be upset at Mata for going to United but not at Chelsea for selling him to United? Mata would have gone to any top club where he would have played. Chelsea sold him to United to maximize profit. Chelsea, not Mata, are the ones who decided that Mata should go to United.

Anyway, I always laugh at the idea of loyalty in football. It's supporters putting their own views on players who don't have them. If Chelsea suddenly became a mid-table team (not really possible but this is a hypothetical) how loyal do you think our players would be? If we went bankrupt and couldn't afford to pay our players their salaries, how loyal would they be? Players want to go where they can play, where they can win trophies, and where they can make the most money. They are the same as you and I. If I got an offer to go to a rival company where I got a promotion and double my pay, you could bet damn well, I'd take it in a heartbeat.