Namika 922 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 He'll get benched quicker than I thought with Falcao coming, so sorry for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 He'd be the perfect player for Athletico Madrid. Maybe Simeone may consider him next season. Hate seeing him being wasted at United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 He'll get benched quicker than I thought with Falcao coming, so sorry for him. Yeah, feel sorry for him, especially considering that he wasn't called up for Spain NT either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Sad for Mata. But happy that an expensive signing for United has not panned out so far. Hoping he can move to a team better suited to his assets and not loaded with cunts soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 tbf the players around him have been absolute shit, especially young who is playing on the same side as himMata is similar to Ozil, if his team is playing like crap, he will also play like crap.Such a shame, he can brilliant but if feels like mata move from a transition team (us) to another transition team in Manu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Mata is similar to Ozil, if his team is playing like crap, he will also play like crap.Such a shame, he can brilliant but if feels like mata move from a transition team (us) to another transition team in Manuthat's what his role does to him. he's a playmaker, he makes others play well. if they're not making runs and getting in space he won't be effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Mata is similar to Ozil, if his team is playing like crap, he will also play like crap. Such a shame, he can brilliant but if feels like mata move from a transition team (us) to another transition team in ManuJuan will be out in January ,,hope he finds a good home communicate and Barbara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,714 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Juan Mata frustrated by Manchester United's long balls after Louis van Gaal's side draw with Burnley at Turf Moor Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2739091/Juan-Mata-frustrated-Manchester-United-s-long-balls-Louis-van-Gaal-s-draw-Burnley-Turf-Moor.html#ixzz3C6jzAvSf Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted September 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 1, 2014 Every time I see the pundits and United fans create there best lineup now with their transfers done Mata isn't in there.A year ago the same people were branding Jose an enemy of football for supposedly disrespecting such a great player.Absolutely comical back tracking. kc_blue, Ainsley Harriott, Term-X and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 He's a nice guy so he won't cause dressing room problems either. Hope he moves on now, preferably to Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Every time I see the pundits and United fans create there best lineup now with their transfers done Mata isn't in there.A year ago the same people were branding Jose an enemy of football for supposedly disrespecting such a great player.Absolutely comical back tracking.Mourinho didn't want him for certain reasons, and United have brought in a coach who has similar demands to Jose. He was a desperation purchase and their recent purchases (as well as the decision to make Rooney captain) have left him marginalised.I'd be surprised if he wasn't sold in January. He won't be cup-tied in Europe and I reckon he could end up somewhere like Valencia for about £20 million. Would be rather amazing if he never actually got to play against us. Sidzeret, BloodIsBlue, Tomo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thiago Alcantara will be Spain's maestro for the next generation.Not Cesc or Mata. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thiago Alcantara will be Spain's maestro for the next generation.Not Cesc or Mata.Considering Thiago is 4 years younger, yea. A midfield of him+Koke will be niiiice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 He had these type of performances for us more than people think, just no one wanted to accept it due to how reliant on him we were in the first two seasons.I remember getting a fair bit of shtick on here for suggesting he was absolutely terrible in some games for us, Seems as if he is almost getting the Torres treatment now that he is playing so poorly at Man United. Too much "the players around him are trash", and "he needs more help from his teammates" talk. The weird thing is, a lot of it is coming from here as well... lol. You make your own luck and results, and those around you can help, but at the end of the day, it is up to you. The truth about Mata is, he is a terrific passer and creator with so many glaring weaknesses and holes in his game. He is too small, too weak, too slow, has an average touch, doesn't track back, gets pushed off the ball, is inconsistent and far too often adds artificial value to the game, more so than actually impacting it. You can get a whole lot of average players to do what he does outside of his moments of brilliance, since he isn't someone you fear the whole game. SS 93 and Tomo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Considering Thiago is 4 years younger, yea. A midfield of him+Koke will be niiiice.Still wish we signed Thiago a few seasons back. We were so close. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I remember getting a fair bit of shtick on here for suggesting he was absolutely terrible in some games for us, Seems as if he is almost getting the Torres treatment now that he is playing so poorly at Man United. Too much "the players around him are trash", and "he needs more help from his teammates" talk. The weird thing is, a lot of it is coming from here as well... lol. You make your own luck and results, and those around you can help, but at the end of the day, it is up to you. The truth about Mata is, he is a terrific passer and creator with so many glaring weaknesses and holes in his game. He is too small, too weak, too slow, has an average touch, doesn't track back, gets pushed off the ball, is inconsistent and far too often adds artificial value to the game, more so than actually impacting it. You can get a whole lot of average players to do what he does outside of his moments of brilliance, since he isn't someone you fear the whole game. I think many knew it deep down, but if they accept that our best player had glaring weaknesses that would stop him getting in a top top team that would mean admitting our team were pretty shit. Also I think part of the reason people are so defensive for him is because he was the first creative player in after we were gagging for one through the whole of 10/11, our team lacked so much width and creativity it got the point people were suggesting Charles N Zogbia and David Beckham. Heck we were even looking at Ashley Young hitting the ground running at United with extreme envy.Similar thing with Ramires actually, is it a coincidence his lack of technical abilty has come under more scrutiny since Matic arrived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Still wish we signed Thiago a few seasons back. We were so close. Oh well.Alcantara? Naaa never even close, it was MU vs Bayern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Alcantara? Naaa never even close, it was MU vs BayernSo close was a hyperbole tbh. I do remember his father stating that we tabled a bid or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Thiago Alcantara will be Spain's maestro for the next generation.Not Cesc or Mata.Wonderful player, although he seems to be very injury prone the last year or so. Koke as well is another potential WC midfielder, has the passing range and vision of Xavi/Alonso but also has the stamina and athleticism. Barcelona are very keen so i could see him playing for them in the future. On Mata, sadly he's more of a forward than CAM really, he offers next to nothing defensively, when he gets pressed he doesn't have the acceleration Silva does to get away and i'm afraid in the modern game you need that athleticism. On Redcafe some of them have come to the realisation that Jose didn't sell him because he's a negative coach ( ). I have to say this though, attacking-wise Mata is WC, his vision and knack of getting plenty of assist and goals is second to none, it's shame but you really do need to build a team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Wonderful player, although he seems to be very injury prone the last year or so. Koke as well is another potential WC midfielder, has the passing range and vision of Xavi/Alonso but also has the stamina and athleticism. Barcelona are very keen so i could see him playing for them in the future. On Mata, sadly he's more of a forward than CAM really, he offers next to nothing defensively, when he gets pressed he doesn't have the acceleration Silva does to get away and i'm afraid in the modern game you need that athleticism. On Redcafe some of them have come to the realisation that Jose didn't sell him because he's a negative coach ( ). I have to say this though, attacking-wise Mata is WC, his vision and knack of getting plenty of assist and goals is second to none, it's shame but you really do need to build a team around him. Well, I always said he was a striker/forward, moreso than a midfielder, however, people on this board that didnt even know Juan mata prior to chelsea seems to have thought otherwise... Spain new gen is going to be Thiago-Isco with koke or 2/3 of them. I can really see busquets, cesc and mata getting phased out of spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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