Korea 734 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 And what has Kagawa done in the premiership? Mata joined when United were in despair and under Moyes. Jesus Christ! Don't be ridiculous. He has been for around 6 months. Kagawa has been shit nearly every time he has been in a United shirt. That is why he can never make a start. If we are going to judge players on their past like you did with Kagawa, that means Torres is better than Costa then? No of course not, because football is not played in the past. Use your head. Please don't even go there with Kagawa. Mata is a much better player.Mata cost United an arm and leg.Kagawa didnt.United already purchased fellaini and if mata failed, they would be the laughingstock of the league... Same reason why Torres is constantly starting for Chelsea... Money tag. And Mata really hasnt been relevant for united, so..... Guess what? Kagawa scored 17 goals in 43 games in 2011-12. Mata did 20 goals in 64 games in 2012-13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Mata cost United an arm and leg.Kagawa didnt.United already purchased fellaini and if mata failed, they would be the laughingstock of the league... Same reason why Torres is constantly starting for Chelsea... Money tag. And Mata really hasnt been relevant for united, so..... Guess what? Kagawa scored 17 goals in 43 games in 2011-12. Mata did 20 goals in 64 games in 2012-13. why dont you stick to your asian football you fucking clown? Every Asian player in europe isnt the second coming of christ. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 why dont you stick to your asian football you fucking clown? Every Asian player in europe isnt the second coming of christ.lol.... Kagawa played in bundesliga, not an asian league...Also, you really don't know the history with japan and korea.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 @NiclasCFC,You are being racist. Stop it or you'll be warned@Korea,Stop making it worse. Ryan Fong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 why dont you stick to your asian football you fucking clown? Every Asian player in europe isnt the second coming of christ.A request from me, calm your attitude or it's a warning.Sorry Spike I posted as you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 @NiclasCFC,You are being racist. Stop it or you'll be warned@Korea,Stop making it worse.how am i being racist? He clearly overrates Asian players. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 A request from me, calm your attitude or it's a warning.Sorry Spike I posted as you did.okay my bad for calling him a clown but i have not said 1 thing about the Asian race. How am i being racist? Bir_CFC and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sainttourist 68 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 He had good last half of the season, but it looks hard for him to find his place under LvG. They have too many weak players now. Swansea clearly use that. This Herrera boy was just shown what is PL are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stats 7,147 Posted August 16, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 16, 2014 Mata cost United an arm and leg.Kagawa didnt.United already purchased fellaini and if mata failed, they would be the laughingstock of the league... Same reason why Torres is constantly starting for Chelsea... Money tag. And Mata really hasnt been relevant for united, so..... Guess what? Kagawa scored 17 goals in 43 games in 2011-12. Mata did 20 goals in 64 games in 2012-13. Just stop your rubbish. I don't need to get into a debate about why Mata is better than Kagawa. Are you seriously trying to state Kagawa is better? No surprise considering you are the same person who believed Ki Seung-Yung is good enough to be playing in our midfield LMAO. NiclasCFC, Amblève., Hybrid Angel and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just stop your rubbish. I don't need to get into a debate about why Mata is better than Kagawa. Are you seriously trying to state Kagawa is better? No surprise considering you are the same person who believed Ki Seung-Yung is good enough to be playing in our midfield LMAO.I ignore everything he says. That guy is a joke. Mata is light years agead of Kagawa. I like Kagawa, but come on. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I ignore everything he says. That guy is a joke. Mata is light years agead of Kagawa. I like Kagawa, but come on.Mikel is slightly more creative than Kagawa iseah100, Hybrid Angel, Stats and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just stop your rubbish. I don't need to get into a debate about why Mata is better than Kagawa. Are you seriously trying to state Kagawa is better? No surprise considering you are the same person who believed Ki Seung-Yung is good enough to be playing in our midfield LMAO.YEAP... Ki still better than mikel and a 40 year old lampard.I like how juan mata gets his best statistical year, chelsea was 3rd place in the league.Yet, when kagawa has his best statistical year, bvb was champions of germany, but apparently that is irrelevant and mata is superior to kagawa....Same kids probably watch bundesliga that season as well...Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rambo 1,729 Posted August 16, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 16, 2014 why dont you stick to your asian football you fucking clown? Every Asian player in europe isnt the second coming of christ. disgraceful post. Barbara, Ryan Fong, seanptmiller and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 YEAP... Ki still better than mikel and a 40 year old lampard.I like how juan mata gets his best statistical year, chelsea was 3rd place in the league.Yet, when kagawa has his best statistical year, bvb was champions of germany, but apparently that is irrelevant. LOL, you thought he is good enough to be in our midfield. No, Ki is a good player but not good enough for Chelsea.Now with Mata, where do I start. Your logic is because when Mata had his best season and we finished 3rd and when Kagawa had his best statistical season they won the Bundesliga that means Kagawa is better. OK, for a start Kagawa was excellent but they were a much more balanced team. They had a complete defence, excellent pivot pair in midfield, they also had Reus and a clinical striker in Lewa. Now compare our team back then and see the differences.OK, so guess what. Mandzukic got over 18 league goals for Bayern last season and they won the league. Benzema got 17 goals in the league. But because Mandzukic had one more goal in the league and won the league while Benzema did not win the league that means Manduzkic better according to your logic? LOL, pathetic. Using Kagawa's stats at Dortmund to prove he is better than Mata is the most ridiculous thing I have heard/seen. He has moved on, came to the prem and apart from one hattrick once for United has been totally shit. You really think Kagawa would ever take Mata's place in United's team? No chance.Like seriously something is wrong up there if you believe Kagawa is better than Mata. One of the most ludicrous comments I have ever seen on here. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 LOL, you thought he is good enough to be in our midfield. No, Ki is a good player but not good enough for Chelsea. Now with Mata, where do I start. Your logic is because when Mata had his best season and we finished 3rd and when Kagawa had his best statistical season they won the Bundesliga that means Kagawa is better. OK, for a start Kagawa was excellent but they were a much more balanced team. They had a complete defence, excellent pivot pair in midfield, they also had Reus and a clinical striker in Lewa. Now compare our team back then and see the differences. OK, so guess what. Mandzukic got over 18 league goals for Bayern last season and they won the league. Benzema got 17 goals in the league. But because Mandzukic had one more goal in the league and won the league while Benzema did not win the league that means Manduzkic better according to your logic? LOL, pathetic. Using Kagawa's stats at Dortmund to prove he is better than Mata is the most ridiculous thing I have heard/seen. He has moved on, came to the prem and apart from one hattrick once for United has been totally shit. You really think Kagawa would ever take Mata's place in United's team? No chance. Like seriously something is wrong up there if you believe Kagawa is better than Mata. One of the most ludicrous comments I have ever seen on here. Both players have strong qualities. Depending on the team you are building, it's not ludicrous to say Kagawa is better than Mata. It's a respectable opinion and I don't think you should take offense to it. Cosmin, Barbara, Dion and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! hjperdeath 2,226 Posted August 16, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 16, 2014 The fact that people kind off forget how good Kagawa was when he was at Dortmund makes you realize how fast football is. Don't want to get extensively into the debate, but if we still had Mata, I would have traded for Kagawa.It's hilarious that people think Mata's light years ahead of Shinji and Silva... Korea, Rambo, kellzfresh and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 LOL, you thought he is good enough to be in our midfield. No, Ki is a good player but not good enough for Chelsea.Now with Mata, where do I start. Your logic is because when Mata had his best season and we finished 3rd and when Kagawa had his best statistical season they won the Bundesliga that means Kagawa is better. OK, for a start Kagawa was excellent but they were a much more balanced team. They had a complete defence, excellent pivot pair in midfield, they also had Reus and a clinical striker in Lewa. Now compare our team back then and see the differences.OK, so guess what. Mandzukic got over 18 league goals for Bayern last season and they won the league. Benzema got 17 goals in the league. But because Mandzukic had one more goal in the league and won the league while Benzema did not win the league that means Manduzkic better according to your logic? LOL, pathetic. Using Kagawa's stats at Dortmund to prove he is better than Mata is the most ridiculous thing I have heard/seen. He has moved on, came to the prem and apart from one hattrick once for United has been totally shit. You really think Kagawa would ever take Mata's place in United's team? No chance.Like seriously something is wrong up there if you believe Kagawa is better than Mata. One of the most ludicrous comments I have ever seen on here.NO.Reus was not on bvb until 2012... Lewda was a no name striker that scored 9 goals his first season and than 30 the season after .... They had a bunch of kids that became very good, not a bunch of guys that were very good...Juan Mata cost United an arm and a leg, kagawa didn't. It's the same as in real life, if you pay 40 dollars for something, rather than 10 are you going to make sure the item purchase for 10 succeeds or the one for 40? United already messed up with Fellaini in the transfer market and couldn't afford another screw up... Why does Torres play so much? Im sure the money tag/contract has a lot to do with it, moreso than his current form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The fact that people kind off forget how good Kagawa was when he was at Dortmund makes you realize how fast football is. Don't want to get extensively into the debate, but if we still had Mata, I would have traded for Kagawa.It's hilarious that people think Mata's light years ahead of Shinji and Silva...Chelsea goggles does that and I would bet they don't really watch games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Kagawa is just as good as Mata in the right system IMO... Nothing wrong with saying either is better, just depends who you prefer. They're both very good players though, of around the same quality IMO. Ainsley Harriott and The Mak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Kagawa is just as good as Mata in the right system IMO... Nothing wrong with saying either is better, just depends who you prefer. They're both very good players though, of around the same quality IMO.It was pretty disappointing when he moved to United. I knew Fergie would never him use him in the proper way. The cultural clash and difficulty in playing along with what he was told to do, made him suffer. Barbara, The Skipper and The Mak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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