LAB 1,030 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Golden deal and all but... still heartbroken about this guy. stroey, kellzfresh and Mustafa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufilika 101 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I always thought he'll end up in Tottenham. Wow, How can you wish that anyone, you have no heart dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Good player for a mid table club, but really isn't cut out for bigger clubs. He had his moment here, but it was when we were in our lowest period in the last decade and more, and despite that we won the CL during that time. For being our best player during that time, he didn't have much to do with it, and was hardly influential in the big games. He needs the ball too much, and to have the offense run through him too much to be the top player at the top clubs. Simply because he will never be close to the most talented at the bigger clubs, so it makes no sense to have the offense go through him, when you can have it go through Hazard, or Rooney, or Di Maria, or Messi, or Neymar, etc... I wouldn't mind him back here as a bench player. For someone his size, he lacks pace, and his first touch is below average, with him at times being unable to track his touch due to a more physical and quicker player pushing him off. So yeah, bench player at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Good player for a mid table club, but really isn't cut out for bigger clubs. He had his moment here, but it was when we were in our lowest period in the last decade and more, and despite that we won the CL during that time. For being our best player during that time, he didn't have much to do with it, and was hardly influential in the big games. He needs the ball too much, and to have the offense run through him too much to be the top player at the top clubs. Simply because he will never be close to the most talented at the bigger clubs, so it makes no sense to have the offense go through him, when you can have it go through Hazard, or Rooney, or Di Maria, or Messi, or Neymar, etc... I wouldn't mind him back here as a bench player. For someone his size, he lacks pace, and his first touch is below average, with him at times being unable to track his touch due to a more physical and quicker player pushing him off. So yeah, bench player at best. The bold part is not true Chelsea Legend 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted February 17, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 17, 2015 Good player for a mid table club, but really isn't cut out for bigger clubs. He had his moment here, but it was when we were in our lowest period in the last decade and more, and despite that we won the CL during that time. For being our best player during that time, he didn't have much to do with it, and was hardly influential in the big games. He needs the ball too much, and to have the offense run through him too much to be the top player at the top clubs. Simply because he will never be close to the most talented at the bigger clubs, so it makes no sense to have the offense go through him, when you can have it go through Hazard, or Rooney, or Di Maria, or Messi, or Neymar, etc... I wouldn't mind him back here as a bench player. For someone his size, he lacks pace, and his first touch is below average, with him at times being unable to track his touch due to a more physical and quicker player pushing him off. So yeah, bench player at best. The whole post is summed up by that gif but the bit in bold is beyond shocking.What an off the mark and totally disrespectful post. This was the same player that was widely regarded throughout Europe as arguably the best players in the league in 12/13 and one of the best AM in Europe. I guess we were a midtable club in 2013 when we finished 3rd with Mata being our best player.It's a shame he left us to join another English club but to belittle him and attempt to discredit his achievement at the club is quite pathetic and small time. Shaan, 11Drogba, Roquila and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 What an off the mark and totally disrespectful post. This was the same player that was widely regarded throughout Europe as arguably the best players in the league in 12/13 and one of the best AM in Europe. I guess we were a midtable club in 2013 when we finished 3rd with Mata being our best player.It's a shame what has happened to him since he left the club but to belittle him and discredit his achievement at the club is quite pathetic and small time.Not to mention that his first touch was one of his most lauded skills. Vybz Kartel, The Mak and lionsden 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Not to mention that his first touch was one of his most lauded skills.That's what made the already poor post really shocking. It's like saying Hazard is a poor/below average dribbler iseah100, Beigl and Mustafa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 #FreeJuan #FromUndeservedClub iseah100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If he can play in the Fabregas style role it might be worth seriously considering bringing him back here as rotation for Cesc, the backup creativity, and could give Eden a rest too as he could replicate a similar style, but with Cuadrado and Willian on each wing. Plus I just like the guy, and I reckon we could get him for a steal from United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If he can play in the Fabregas style role it might be worth seriously considering bringing him back here as rotation for Cesc, the backup creativity, and could give Eden a rest too as he could replicate a similar style, but with Cuadrado and Willian on each wing. Plus I just like the guy, and I reckon we could get him for a steal from United.Come on now. Mata is a great player in the final third but largely useless anywhere else on the pitch. I loved him, still do but he's not the type of player we need right now. Barbara, The Chels and pHaRaOn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Mata looks Dastardly in this pic... Obviously very upset. stroey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If he can play in the Fabregas style role it might be worth seriously considering bringing him back here as rotation for Cesc, the backup creativity, and could give Eden a rest too as he could replicate a similar style, but with Cuadrado and Willian on each wing. Plus I just like the guy, and I reckon we could get him for a steal from United.If we get him back, it should be to replace oscar during the second half of every season. CurlyHairLikeLuiz and Reddish-Blue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Come on now. Mata is a great player in the final third but largely useless anywhere else on the pitch. I loved him, still do but he's not the type of player we need right now.Fabregas can't defed for shit either, though... if he could replicate the No 8 role, he could be an ideal sub for him. Don't forget he had amazing vision with all of those assists. Mou by the sound of it doesn't like him, though. It's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Fabregas can't defed for shit either, though... if he could replicate the No 8 role, he could be an ideal sub for him. Don't forget he had amazing vision with all of those assists. Mou by the sound of it doesn't like him, though. It's a shame.Fabregas isn't a world class defender by no means but he understands where he needs to be. He's also got 2.7 tackles a game, can you see Mata coming anywhere near that number?You guys only look at one aspect of the game, I grew up a disciple of Dutch football so I'm and advocate for total football. Jose clearly is too and while Cesc isn't the best defender he does get himself dirty from time to time, Mata isn't that type of player at all. killer1257 and Barbara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Atleti have always been his fans. Expecting him to go there for 15-20-25 million, depending on who they part with(if any). Him, Griezmann, Arda, Koke, pretty nice midfield.What? Mata is about as far away from a 'Simeone player' as you will get. Atletico are all about intensity, tactical discipline and workrate. Mata would definitely not suit them. Valencia have now got a lot of money coming in and he might return there but whenever I watch them their style seems to be based on intensity too. As much as I like the guy Mata is just too limited tactically. pHaRaOn, LondonsFinest and Barbara 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Better Than Oscar. Mustafa and Vybz Kartel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I know there has been suggestions of the likes of Oscar, KDB and even Willian being moved to the pivot but I never expected Matas name to crop up.Just a step too far that Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 What? Mata is about as far away from a 'Simeone player' as you will get. Atletico are all about intensity, tactical discipline and workrate. Mata would definitely not suit them. Valencia have now got a lot of money coming in and he might return there but whenever I watch them their style seems to be based on intensity too. As much as I like the guy Mata is just too limited tactically.Think the more accurate description for Mata is that he's limited when it comes to physical attributes. Tactically he's decent and can improve (he's an intelligent player after all) but without the necessary stamina, pace, strength etc, he's never going to really thrive in systems that Mourinho, Simeone etc deploy. Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Mata looks Dastardly in this pic... Obviously very upset.You do realize that second picture is from United's game at Leicester back in September..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 You do realize that second picture is from United's game at Leicester back in September..?i didn't but I fail to see how that is a factor. He looks upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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