Romelu Lukaku

[Eggman 118]

I agree he's a threat and he weighs on the defense, and he will score more than our other strikers even at this stage of his development, but all of this is not enough for a world class team. If he should be first striker for Chelsea, he should be compared to the first striker of teams like Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid and so on. I am a believer that he one day will be in the same league, considering what he has already shown at the age of 20, but I also believe that he's technically not yet at the level to lead the line of a team with our ambitions.

[Vrancken 8]

against a team that can't park a bus? defenitly lukaku

[Vrancken 8]

I agree he's a threat and he weighs on the defense, and he will score more than our other strikers even at this stage of his development, but all of this is not enough for a world class team. If he should be first striker for Chelsea, he should be compared to the first striker of teams like Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid and so on. I am a believer that he one day will be in the same league, considering what he has already shown at the age of 20, but I also believe that he's technically not yet at the level to lead the line of a team with our ambitions.

First of al I agree he will be (much) better, But when you see him like this he will never be ready, he has other qualitys that make him a same level word class striker.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

That is ....... SOOO AWESOME !!!!!

WHAT THE ACTUAL SONG

De Bruyne has certainly developed an interesting accent

[Eggman 118]

First of al I agree he will be (much) better, But when you see him like this he will never be ready, he has other qualitys that make him a same level word class striker.

Well, it's a bit complicated: he is ready now for a "catenaccio" type of playing style, which could perhaps be with a top class team.

But I don't think he is ready to play in a team that plays dominant, possession-based football. Although I hope that one day soon, he will.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I agree he's a threat and he weighs on the defense, and he will score more than our other strikers even at this stage of his development, but all of this is not enough for a world class team. If he should be first striker for Chelsea, he should be compared to the first striker of teams like Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid and so on. I am a believer that he one day will be in the same league, considering what he has already shown at the age of 20, but I also believe that he's technically not yet at the level to lead the line of a team with our ambitions.

So he'd score more goals than our other strikers, but isn't good enough for a world-class team?

Firstly, we aren't a world-class team. We're a team in a building phase so why he couldn't be part of that I don't know. If that is the case, why couldn't he grow around us? Why couldn't he train everyday under some of the best coaches in football and alongside some of the best players around?

If you want to compare him to those teams then why don't you? Benzema has 2 goals in 8 games. Mandzukic has 4 goals in 8 games. Lukaku has 4 goals in 5 games.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

So, after a really good game against Croatia and people going "ARE YOU WATCHING JOSE", he proved Mourinho right yesterday against Wales.

As a strong, fast, clinical striker for counter football, he is already top notch. The Croatia game (they needed to win) was perfect for him.

Against teams that shut up shop, contrastingly, he is rather useless. Technically just not good enough.

So... it confirmed what has been said by most: huge potential, some strong qualities already, but not good enough for a dominant style team as of yet.

Well, that's pretty short sighted.

While he's better in a team built for the counter, he was still very active against Wales. Multiple chances, made the decisive pass leading to Kevin's goal and most important of all: he's an absolute burden on any defense. He might not score every match but he's always a threat.

Btw, don't forget the fact that Belgium was already qualified, pressure was gone and several key players started on the bench. Judge him on matches where he has to make the difference under pressure.

[NishC300 1,865]

@CarloFan

Steve Bruce on Lukaku—"Maybe the reason why he's gone there is Jose has thought 'maybe Everton can go & get a few points off the big boys.."

Apart from the development factor, that could be a valid reason......

[maikiboy 0]

I dont understand that people continue to doubt about this guy. I read that he s not talented enough cause he can t dribble like hazard or torres. Or that he s first touch is not good enough. People who say that don t get the point. Talent for a forward is about consistently scoring goals and this guy is doing just that.

The facts back this up.

2009-2010

Topscorer with 15 goals in the belgian league at the age of 16! ! ! ! (does anybody know someone else?)

2010-2011

scores 16 goals at the age of 17 in his confirmation year. (always difficult cause defenders are targetting him way more)

2011-2012

scores 2 in 2 games for anderlecht and then lost a year thanks to the first Portuguese coach that doesn t give him a proper chance

2012-2013

scores 17 for WBA despite the fact that this f.ck..g steve clark is always putting him on the bench

2013-2014

Despite a decent preparation another Portuguese coach suddenly lost his faith in him and he almost lost a year again. Scores 4 in 2.5 games and is on his way to 20 goals

I think the guy is already a beast and should have had a proper chance in our team. He always confirms that he s lethal in front of a goal. Too bad that these Portuguese coaches didn t dare to put a young newcomer in the team despite clear facts.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Regarding Lukaku, I just dismiss it when people bring up his goalscoring stats simply because everyone knows the kid can score goals already. That's not the reason he's gone out on loan. He's gone out on loan to become a more complete footballer, to improve his back-to-goal play, his link up game with players etc.

That's why it really doesn't phase me when people try to bring up his goalscoring record, or the fact that he's outscored our forwards.

[Goemaere 131]

Regarding Lukaku, I just dismiss it when people bring up his goalscoring stats simply because everyone knows the kid can score goals already. That's not the reason he's gone out on loan. He's gone out on loan to become a more complete footballer, to improve his back-to-goal play, his link up game with players etc.

That's why it really doesn't phase me when people try to bring up his goalscoring record, or the fact that he's outscored our forwards.

He's out on loan because the board has fucked up.

[The Skipper 20,593]

He's out on loan because the board has fucked up.

I don't think so tbh, but each to their own.

[The only place to be 11,313]

He's gone out on loan to become a more complete footballer, to improve his back-to-goal play, his link up game with players etc.

Can't our coaches coach that?

Or are you suggesting that he'd get more games at Everton? Won't Martinez only continue to select him if he's scoring goals?? Is that a different criteria to the one Jose selects strikers on?

[Sheva. 5,373]

Can't our coaches coach that?

Or are you suggesting that he'd get more games at Everton? Won't Martinez only continue to select him if he's scoring goals?? Is that a different criteria to the one Jose selects strikers on?

All about games. If he's still here, Eto'o and Torres will play more than him. He will play sporadically, more times than none off the bench.

At Everton he really has no competition - Jelavic has been ridiculous for months, and Kone misses more than he scores - and also not the same kind of pressure to perform.

[The only place to be 11,313]

All about games. If he's still here, Eto'o and Torres will play more than him. He will play sporadically, more times than none off the bench.

At Everton he really has no competition - Jelavic has been ridiculous for months, and Kone misses more than he scores - and also not the same kind of pressure to perform.

If he's scoring goals, why would Eto'o or Torres play more than him?? By the same token if he isn't scoring goals for Everton then why wouldn't he be dropped?

As for pressure, there will always be pressure at this club. It comes down to character and I've always thought Lukaku had bundles of the stuff.

[Sheva. 5,373]

If he's scoring goals, why would Eto'o or Torres play more than him?? By the same token if he isn't scoring goals for Everton then why wouldn't he be dropped?

As for pressure, there will always be pressure at this club. It comes down to character and I've always thought Lukaku had bundles of the stuff.

He wouldn't get enough chances. Before Eto'o joined he hadn't even started a single game, and got cameos here and there.

There's not many, if any, top clubs in Europe who have a 20 year old leading their line, experience is always valued, and moreso for a team like Chelsea who already have so many young midfielders, this is why/how Mourinho justifies playing Lampard behind them, and why i'm sure he got Eto'o in.

About pressure, we have 2 strikers who know what its like to play in big games, who have scored goals in Euro finals to CL finals. Lukaku is still learning and his time will come, but i don't see him leading our line just yet.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Can't our coaches coach that?

Or are you suggesting that he'd get more games at Everton? Won't Martinez only continue to select him if he's scoring goals?? Is that a different criteria to the one Jose selects strikers on?

He obviously needs all the game time he can get, which he won't get here because Torres, Eto'o & Ba are obviously better than the competition he faces at Everton in Kone and Jelavic, so if he has a few bad games he won't be as easily dropped, it really is that simple.

We all know Lukaku can score bags of goals, no one is disputing that. It's other aspects of his game that he needs to work on and I think at Everton he's been given a fantastic platform.

[The only place to be 11,313]

He wouldn't get enough chances. Before Eto'o joined he hadn't even started a single game, and got cameos here and there.

There's not many, if any, top clubs in Europe who have a 20 year old leading their line, experience is always valued, and moreso for a team like Chelsea who already have so many young midfielders, this is why/how Mourinho justifies playing Lampard behind them, and why i'm sure he got Eto'o in.

About pressure, we have 2 strikers who know what its like to play in big games, who have scored goals in Euro finals to CL finals. Lukaku is still learning and his time will come, but i don't see him leading our line just yet.

I don't see many starting with 21 year olds.

or 22 year olds.

But then I don't see many 20 year olds like Lukaku with over 20 international caps to their name. We didn't give him a chance, but Everton did and he's repaying that faith in him. We made a mistake loaning him out in my opinion.

He obviously needs all the game time he can get, which he won't get here because Torres, Eto'o & Ba are obviously better than the competition he faces at Everton in Kone and Jelavic, so if he has a few bad games he won't be as easily dropped, it really is that simple.

We all know Lukaku can score bags of goals, no one is disputing that. It's other aspects of his game that he needs to work on and I think at Everton he's been given a fantastic platform.

Are Eto'o, Torres and Ba better than Lukaku though? Not were they. Not do they have more medals than him. Not are they older.

Are they better than him right now?

It's a simple question.

The other question is would he learn more from the likes of Lampard, Terry, Mourinho and even Torres than he would from Jelavic, Distin, Pienaar and Martinez?