Last Sicarius 610 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 27 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: We can spend 68m on Lukaku and still buy Mustafi and Rodriguez. I dont think so. We couldn't make one good bid for Kali, so i dont think we can buy these three guys. We didnt even sell anyone for proper money... this is sad we keep hold players like Remy, Pedro, Cuadrado or even Mikel.... and we just loan Baba. It's insane. 1chelsea and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 ONce again people are only painting in black and white. Lukaku ia good player. Not an average or even bad one. Simply a good striker. Is he a 60m striker? Ofc not FFS.  But that is not even the point. What striker worth 60m is available? No one. Higuain surely is not one. Neither is Icardi or Cavani or whoevs. Moreover we need a long term successor, the one we hoped Costa would be. Esp for a 2-striker system we can't have enough forwards.. Whilst I am against this signing, in case Costa leaves, we need to replace a very good striker in a market where none are available so obviously, the board regards Lukaku as the lesser evil. What worries me most about Rom is that he is still pretty much the same player as he was 3 years ago. He might have slightly improved his first touch and spacial awareness but that's about it. He is still scoring mostly against weak teams and disintegrated defences like ours last season. And that is not because everton are a poor team. At Belgium he had every other creative player in Europe behind him. You'd exepct him to create space for Hazard there, why would he do better here? The only good game he made was against a desperate Ireland team. He only scores when he has space. Drogba was significantly smaller than Rom but he could create space left, right and centre, because he had the movement, the skill and most importantly the cleverness to do so. He was so smart in his utilization of his body, he always appeared bigger than he actually was. Lukaku is the exact opposite. When he gets surrounded or marked tightly by defenders, he loses his cool and the ball, instead of trusting in his superior upper body strength. When a well organised team does not mark him but covers the space around, he still can't make efficient runs behind. I don't know him personally but his constant lamenting in the press indicated that he is not really addressing those issues himself. Drogba also could pounce on a mediocre cross as he was quicker in his thinking and better in his anticipating of the curve of the ball. Lukaku needs it right to his head to even show his surprisingly tiny...err.. leap. Given time and space to run he is deadly though. He will just bulldoze defenders out of the way and finish with aplomb. That ofc if he is not too frustrated already. While not exactly a Zidane, Lukaku is by no means a horrible technician. His shooting technique is excellent from close to mid-range, he also knows how to shift his body to set up a shot and how to finish in tight spaces. Also his general dribbling has improved. I just don't know if that is enough. The way we play or more importantly the way opponents play us does not really let him exploit his strengths but rather would force him mould his game more into a hold up striker right in the front to make space, collect and defend balls where the space is the tightest. That is not his game. As with DAvid Luiz, RLC or even Willian, I must say, he does have all the tools, but I don't know if he has the head for it. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Maybe, just maybe, that if he comes back the certain people behind the scenes at this club may start to understand that some players need a real good kick of the ball before actually shoving them out. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Chelsea have told Everton that their next offer for Romelu Lukaku will be a take-it-or-leave-it offer (Times) #CFC #EFC Chelsea will not make another bid for Romelu Lukaku if the transfer is not completed this month (Times) #CFC #EFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Everton are adamant they will not sell Romelu Lukaku for less than £75million (Times) #CFC #EFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Chels 2,502 Posted August 1, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted August 1, 2016 Stay strong, Everton. We believe in you. kellzfresh, MefiX19, positivefootball and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 If Everton don't accept a British transfer record sum for Rom, they are stupid. They were stupid not to accept 40m for Stones, who is only a moderatly  above average player, last season, too so I could imagine them trying to keep hold even though he will never command such an inflated price again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: If Everton don't accept a British transfer record sum for Rom, they are stupid. They were stupid not to accept 40m for Stones, who is only a moderatly  above average player, last season, too so I could imagine them trying to keep hold even though he will never command such an inflated price again. It seems like City will buy Stones for £50m so they won't be losing out there, but I seriously can't see any team bidding close to £70m for Lukaku next season... except us again maybe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted August 1, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted August 1, 2016 Don't know who is more daft us offering that much money or Everton asking for more. Â Peace., The Mak, Sovieticus and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted August 1, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted August 1, 2016 Somehow missed this noise. No, please. Capable of becoming a very good striker at best in a few years. Never world-class and never ever elite. Ridiculous money for a player of his calibre as well. I'm convinced he would've shunned Chelsea if other big clubs wanted him. Utd and Arsenal need(ed) a striker and didn't go for him. Same goes for Juve and Atletico. PSG could've used a striker but no. Remember his father talking about the likes of Bayern but it didn't quite happen. Nothing against Rom and I was happy for his personal succes at Everton but I just don't see how he makes the team better. Morata has a bit more to him for me and I wasn't a fan of that move either. I'd rather be patient and wait for a true world-class talent and spend stupid money on that player if needed. Peace., Tomo, The Chels and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I say sod him! We got RLC and Remy. Who needs a proven PL striker that scores 20/25 a season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 No please. that says a lot about us been a mid table team if we start looking to Everton direction not acceptable. who here will call it Anothony Martial and Lukaku are they on same level? United have him and still have Zlatan and we should go for Lukaku? well it your opinion and i respect it but if chelsea go for him then it a fail season already scargo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Unionjack said: I say sod him! We got RLC and Remy. Who needs a proven PL striker that scores 20/25 a season We have also got a technically superior striker from Belgium who doesn't wave his cock about demanding an unconditional starting place. MefiX19 and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 4 hours ago, The Chels said: It seems like City will buy Stones for £50m so they won't be losing out there, but I seriously can't see any team bidding close to £70m for Lukaku next season... except us again maybe! Honestly, if we are insistent on giving money to Everton this summer id rather it was Stones. Im convinced he will be world class, the fact we already have Zouma and Andreas is the only reason I'm not madly campaigning to get him.  The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 7 hours ago, Tomo said: We have also got a technically superior striker from Belgium who doesn't wave his cock about demanding an unconditional starting place. Nowt wrong waving yer cock about if its summet to brag about. Theres alot of gifted people that needs their egos stroking continually. Way of the world. Its only when their egos are bigger than their skills they need a kick up the arse. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 When selling Lukaku to Everton, Chelsea put a clause in the contract which states that if he moves to another club for more than £28m and hits certain appearance and scoring targets for Everton (he did hit them!), Chelsea gets % of the transfer fee. We're using this clause now to demand discount. So we actually always pay less than it's said in the press, that's why Everton want more money, because they owe us some of it and will not get the full amount. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 44 minutes ago, Melanicus said: When selling Lukaku to Everton, Chelsea put a clause in the contract which states that if he moves to another club for more than £28m and hits certain appearance and scoring targets for Everton (he did hit them!), Chelsea gets % of the transfer fee. We're using this clause now to demand discount. So we actually always pay less than it's said in the press, that's why Everton want more money, because they owe us some of it and will not get the full amount. That clause could turn this thing into the next saga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 What a birthday present!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Deals are going to start triggering others anytime now I reckon. Sane to City, whilst he isn't a forward could well trigger Bony to Everton for Romelu Lukaku replacement. Stones to City will happen once Everton agree with Swansea for Ashley Williams and so on. Season is just around the corner and things will get hot in the coming days IMO. Fernando, !Hazard!, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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