Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 59 minutes ago, Symbol123 said: So then why are we paying £70m to try fitting a square peg into a round hole? For a number of reasons. First there is more than one way to skin a cat. Second he adds to our association trained pool and is a proven goalscorer. Where Lukaku is poor in the build up and has a poor first touch, he is very good in the air and plays off the shoulders of defenders extremely well. I'm of the belief that the width we are playing with will provide more gaps in the back for Costa AND Lukaku to exploit. This is what we saw last year Absolutely no width leaving Costa marked by two defenders and Hazard basically lost on the left trying to cut inside to a crowded midfield. In this system when we're in possession our wingers hug the touchline and pull defenders away from the middle of the pitch, thus providing more space in the channels for Lukaku and Costa to exploit. Thats what I've noted in the preseason and LOVED about the two striker system. A system where if you have a guy who is good in the air(Lukaku) and a guy who is a goal poacher(Costa) can co-exist mainly because they don't like to occupy the same space and who will be matched up 1 v 1 with most defenders. In my head, which doesn't really account for much in the grander scheme of things, this can be very dangerous. If they double up on Hazard with a RB and a winger you leave Costa 1v1. If you tell the RB to stay home and help crowd out our strikers you leave Hazard 1v1 with a winger.... If you re-position one of your two holding midfielders to deal with one of our strikers it leaves more space and time for Fabregas to do what he does best....  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:  If it were up to me, I'd take Diego and, by what little I've seen of him, even Batshuayi just in front of Hazard in a two man strike force. So Hazard as 1 of the 2 strikers? then who plays LW? We need Hazard from the wing, from the attaking midffeld area, we dont have other options but him. Chelsea Legend 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, nadavTKL said: So Hazard as 1 of the 2 strikers? then who plays LW? We need Hazard from the wing, from the attaking midffeld area, we dont have other options but him. Hazard can be played there from time to time. There will be situations where he can exploit defenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 75Million? Holy shit im crying. Noway we are going to pay that much or are we o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Chelsea are ready to offer a massive £65 million to bring Romelu Lukaku back to Stamford Bridge, according to the Mail. The Blues will also chuck Loic Remy into the mix, though the English outlet reports that the Toffees are to stubbornly hold out for £75m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 5 hours ago, xPetrCechx said: Â I want to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 2, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted August 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, nono said: Â I want to die Praying to God Everton hold firm and we dodge this bullet. Peace., Blue Armour, Tomo and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,252 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Man, we might see the first TalkChelsea crash from server overload in years if this move happens. It'll be hilarious. I miss those days. AWorriedChelseaFan, xPetrCechx, TheIceMan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, Pizy said: Man, we might see the first TalkChelsea crash from server overload in years if this move happens. It'll be hilarious. I miss those days. Really interested to know who you guys want instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, Gilvorak said: Praying to God Everton hold firm and we dodge this bullet. Please give me some insight as to who you'd like instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I really want this to happen. Come on home Romelu!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,252 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 15 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Really interested to know who you guys want instead? I want Lukaku! Chelsea Legend 11 and Unionjack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Nobody seems to remember the last and a certain individual who had 'passion' for us and ended up putting us back a few years and coaching one of our biggest rivals? Please. Passion shouldn't be considered a sole reason to have someone in the team. Lukaku is not good enough for us and even if he is, that means we're not as good as we think of ourselves. The Chels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Nobody seems to remember the last and a certain individual who had 'passion' for us and ended up putting us back a few years and coaching one of our biggest rivals? Please. Passion shouldn't be considered a sole reason to have someone in the team. Lukaku is not good enough for us and even if he is, that means we're not as good as we think of ourselves. Can you show me where anyone has said passion is the sole reason to have someone in the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 3, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted August 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Please give me some insight as to who you'd like instead? I'd rather have no one in all honesty. Throwing an absurd amount of money at Lukaku because he's the only available striker is absurd. Peace., Melanicus, BXL70 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Just now, Gilvorak said: I'd rather have no one in all honesty. Throwing an absurd amount of money at Lukaku because he's the only available striker is absurd. So you're willing to sacrifice an entire season and perhaps start the managerial merry-go round again because you don't want to buy Lukaku? Do you think the price for a striker will soon drop? Morata scored 9 goals and Real Madrid want 75m for him. When you get over the number(which in isolation is absurd) is he not one of the better strikers in the prem? I say Kane, Aguero, Sturridge? Vardy? Costa, then Lukaku somewhere in there. Given his age and association credit he adds value beyond just goalscoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 4 hours ago, Pizy said: Man, we might see the first TalkChelsea crash from server overload in years if this move happens. It'll be hilarious. I miss those days. Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,710 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 2 hours ago, xPetrCechx said:  Hell...if you thought that the Pogba transfer fee was ridiculous, this one tops that or at least, comes pretty close. Its not a surprise that Mino Raiola is a common factor in both of these transfers. For that kind of money, clubs like Madrid have gone after the likes of Ronaldo and Kaka...players who have proven themselves at the highest level. Even our own big money transfers in the past, such as with Torres and Shevchenko, involved players of that mold.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 10 hours ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: And what part of the preseason so far have you seen us utilizing our strikers with their backs to goal? Everything I've seen had our strikers playing off the shoulders of defenders looking to get in behind. That part of Lukaku's game is undeniable, he is an absolute nightmare in this instance. I will also agree his link up is poor but if the scenario of having Lukaku and Costa marauding in and around the 18 while being serviced by Hazard, Cesc and Willian isn't appealing I can't be sure what you guys are looking for from our 4-2-4 system? He's homegrown, a Chelsea supporter, he's scored a boatload of goals already.... What striker in world football can say that they've scored 50 premier league goals before turning 23? Have you seen the going rate for strikers these days? Morata scored 9 goals last year and Real Madrid want 75m for him.... LOL. Its not the perfect scenario but given our already shaky association status and Costa's injury woes, coupled with our inability to score last year I'm finding it hard to have a problem with Costa and Lukaku with Michy coming off the bench. What part of our preseason has made you think that we'd play with two pure strikers? So far has used RLC, Oscar and Hazard in the second striker position. Incredibly doubtful that we'd play with both Costa and Lukaku. At the end of the day, Conte is an Italian manager, he won't leave the team outnumbered in midfield. Your main striker having to play with his back to goal is not just related to your own tactics. Most teams in the EPL will play a low black with 10 men behind the ball against us. Can't play off the shoulders of defenders against them. Goal stats mean little. Strikers are no longer there just for goals. Even if you neglect the differences in the leagues and positions, Morata's role at Juve was much much more than just goals. Lukaku would NOT start ahead of Morata in Juve's system, and by the early looks of it, nor in Chelsea's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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