Coop 114 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Good for him he got loaned out, Chelsea is not an easy team for making lots of goals. This year scoring a lot and learn a lot and maybe he can carry the heavy weight of scoring goals for Chelsea. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Find 5 met Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Lukaku's ability and talent were never in question. His strengths at this moment don't align with Chelsea's playing style. He could have stayed and improved as 2nd or 3rd choice but it's better to be first choice at Everton. I have no problem with the loan move. He'll improve with his build-up play and his back to goal hopefully playing at Everton, because that's what he needs at Chelsea. Everything else he already has. The Skipper and daBlackMamba7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Bring him back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Jose won't get him back. I honestly hope he doesn't. He is playing so good and he'll keep developing. If he comes back to us, it would be depressing to see his career be ruined while being behind Torres and Eto'o. Plus that crucial NT spot. Stay wherever you are Lukaku, and come back next year. It's the best decision for both the parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachikethas 1,154 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 lot of people i mean in general are thinking we send him out for loan to be a flop and suddenly it back fired as!! he scoring goals at very good rate,playing every match and that is the whole point of this loan.for me westbrom was the third place podium everton the second and chelsea the FIRST. he will stand and collect his medal next year for sure.whether he could suddenly jump to first place from third we may never know. but i believe that could have been very hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The loan isn't the problem here. It was what needed to be done. He needs to play #1 striker minutes. The problem is that absolute dross that is still at the club at the striker position. Las7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The loan isn't the problem here. It was what needed to be done. He needs to play #1 striker minutes. The problem is that absolute dross that is still at the club at the striker position.Spot on, when you are 6 games into the season your forwards have scored fewer goals than Mikel serious questions need to be asked. We still have the biggest flop of English football playing regularly for us and a semi retired Eto'o - Ba is only here because we don't want to strengthen Arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 No strike force consisting of Torres is lethal He's been the best player for us past couple of games - and doing that while getting all that crap from supporters, having the media on him and so on. In that perspective the situation is easier for Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted October 1, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 1, 2013 I feel insulted by people saying that it's more difficult to score for us than Everton or Westbrom, making it sound like it's an easy thing for a player to score at those teams despite the fact that other than Benteke; Lukaku and Sturridge over the last 2 years there has been not a single young striker at any of the lesser clubs in the EPL scoring loads of goals. Simply put Lukaku; Sturridge and Benteke are the best young strikers in the League and can easily be compared with the top dogs(RvP; Rooney; Kun; etc).The problem stems that CFC doesn't trust youth and prefers to flog a dead horse as opposed to actually giving Lukaku some game time. It's not about the competition for places that makes it harder to score for Chelsea. It's the fact that teams defend with 10 behind the ball when playing against us, and with only one striker up front he can not afford any mistakes. Simple as that. Please try to have more perspective. SinineUltra, daBlackMamba7, Ankit and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Las7 951 Posted October 1, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 1, 2013 He's been the best player for us past couple of games - and doing that while getting all that crap from supporters, having the media on him and so on. In that perspective the situation is easier for Lukaku. You do realize Torres has been here for 34 months ? Lukaku had two sub appearances and people wrote him off - load of spastic comments, there is a reason I dislike Torres, because he represents everything wrong at the club and gets selected not based on form but based on how much we paid and how much he is earning. Otherwise he would have long lost his place in the Team to the likes of Sturridge and Lukaku. It's not about the competition for places that makes it harder to score for Chelsea. It's the fact that teams defend with 10 behind the ball when playing against us, and with only one striker up front he can not afford any mistakes. Simple as that. Please try to have more perspective.You try to have a little perspective, we have one of the best young strikers in the League and instead of playing an inform player we play Torres who has 1 GOAL in the EPL for the Calendar year thus far, and a semi retired player from Russia who might or might not be an upgrade over a player who has scored 1 GOAL in the EPL for the Calendar year thus far. It might be easier to score at Everton or Westbrom but it should not be as difficult as it's proving for Torres to score in the EPL at Chelsea. United/City/Arsenal also face teams that pack their own area doesn't mean that their strikers score 1 goal every 8 months in the League. Torres has 1 goal for the last 1358 minutes on the field for Chelsea Football Club in the EPL, Lukaku scores a goal ever 100 minutes - even if he scores less at CFC I don't see how he could not improve over Torres's pathetic record. Torres has played a total of 4721 minutes for CFC in the EPL since arriving scoring a goal ever 314.74 minutes that's worse than a 1/3 record, spanning over 3 seasons. So please when you talk about the crap Torres is getting by supporters ask yourself what he was signed for, take a look at Berbatov's record at United a player who was deemed not good enough for them and they went on to sign RvP - Berbatov's record at United blows Torres out of the water. With his record in the EPL wit us Torres would be lucky to be playing in a mid level EPL club and would only be a first choice striker at a relegation threatened team. Arsenal would have bitten our hand if we offered them Lukaku on loan, they'd probably laugh and ask if we are joking if we offered Torres. Neira, robdog, Christacinto and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 You do realize Torres has been here for 34 months ? Lukaku had two sub appearances and people wrote him off - load of spastic comments, there is a reason I dislike Torres, because he represents everything wrong at the club and gets selected not based on form but based on how much we paid and how much he is earning. Otherwise he would have long lost his place in the Team to the likes of Sturridge and Lukaku. You try to have a little perspective, we have one of the best young strikers in the League and instead of playing an inform player we play Torres who has 1 GOAL in the EPL for the Calendar year thus far, and a semi retired player from Russia who might or might not be an upgrade over a player who has scored 1 GOAL in the EPL for the Calendar year thus far. It might be easier to score at Everton or Westbrom but it should not be as difficult as it's proving for Torres to score in the EPL at Chelsea. United/City/Arsenal also face teams that pack their own area doesn't mean that their strikers score 1 goal every 8 months in the League. Torres has 1 goal for the last 1358 minutes on the field for Chelsea Football Club in the EPL, Lukaku scores a goal ever 100 minutes - even if he scores less at CFC I don't see how he could not improve over Torres's pathetic record. When we signed Torres, for most people it seemed like a great signing, there was lots of excitement and hope around. It didn't work out, no way of predicting that. But you need to keep in mind it was a major investment, contracts were signed. And those contracts aren't that easy nor cheap to terminate. But that's just a guess, there's no way of knowing the full story behind this as supporters. Fact of the matter is that there are players in Chelsea blue who get credit for anything they do, while their mistakes are overlooked, and there are players who keep getting criticized no matter how good or bad they do. Same story goes about Benitez situation. He did great giving the atmosphere around him. His achievements can not be downgraded. Statistics do not always show the full picture, just bunch of numbers. It's not only the strikers for Chelsea that do not score, Chelsea as a team can't score at the moment. It's clear radical changes were made internally when Mourinho was appointed so it's unfair to judge the team based on what? - 6 games?The Premier League isn't the only competition we're in. Torres scored 22 goals, 7 assists last season for Chelsea, not bad for a flop!You think I wouldn't like to see Lukaku play for us? Of course! But the club, might seem the other way around, put Lukaku's interest before their own. They knew a 20 year old will hit a rocky patch of form at some point - might it be after 2 games, after 10 games, and will lose his positiong to another striker. Everton was the perfect club for him to go to, and it shows with the performances he has been producing the past couple of games for them. He can afford to make mistakes and still have better shot at getting games than in Chelsea, which is normal. We should be happy Chelsea striker is doing great and offers promise for us the seasons ahead. Football is a business not a charity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yesterday, I even read one of the funniest postings about Lukaku. here. According to the fossil Lukaku is not ready yet.Are we not watching Lukaku or are we just blind ?To loan Lukaku was the biggest, the most dimwitted decision made by Jose, I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 As I have said before, let the lad play and develop. He's gonna be a beast. daBlackMamba7 and MetsajCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Spot on, when you are 6 games into the season your forwards have scored fewer goals than Mikel serious questions need to be asked. We still have the biggest flop of English football playing regularly for us and a semi retired Eto'o - Ba is only here because we don't want to strengthen Arsenal How is he semi retired? because he played in the Russian League? it may not be the PL but it is still a strong league with good teams in it, as teams in "strong league's" have found out on more than one occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 As I have said before, let the lad play and develop. He's gonna be a beast.I would have been quite happy to see this lad start for us. It would have been bumpy but he's got undoubted quality and I actually think the supporters would have gotten behind him. The club needs to have the courage to throw the young players in sometimes rather than waiting for them to reach this mythical stage of being 'ready' to start.How is he semi retired? because he played in the Russian League? it may not be the PL but it is still a strong league with good teams in it, as teams in "strong league's" have found out on more than one occasion.No, it's a sub-standard dog shit league where the only attraction is money. Eto'o took a last big payday (until we came along) which is perfectly fine from his perspective but pretty shit from our perspective because he's clearly some way off the pace at the moment. He still has those striker's instincts but it's acting on them that seems to be the problem at the moment.The main appeal of Eto'o seems to be that he's still a 'name' whereas Lukaku isn't. But gotta sell those t-shirts right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 No, it's a sub-standard dog shit league where the only attraction is money. Eto'o took a last big payday (until we came along) which is perfectly fine from his perspective but pretty shit from our perspective because he's clearly some way off the pace at the moment. He still has those striker's instincts but it's acting on them that seems to be the problem at the moment.So if we signed Witsel would you have the same reservation's?Like i said it may not be the PL but at the same time it's not the Bulgarian League either. If it's as bad as you say why did the likes of Rubin Kazan get 4 points off Barca in the group (and fully deserve too btw)? Why did CSKA Moscow outplay United at Old Trafford? Why did the same team get 4/6 against Arsenal and get to the quarter final? Why did Zenit romp the Europa league smashing Bayern Munich (who were at the time walking the Bundesliga) 5-1 on the way? There is many more example's of Russian teams coming into the CL/EL and matching the "big boys" but im too lazy to check for more examples right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 So if we signed Witsel would you have the same reservation's?To a certain extent. He's not a 30+ year old whose pace was key to his success who has been playing some of his football in a deeper role.Like i said it may not be the PL but at the same time it's not the Bulgarian League either. If it's as bad as you say why did the likes of Rubin Kazan get 4 points off Barca in the group (and fully deserve too btw)? Why did CSKA Moscow outplay United at Old Trafford? Why did the same team get 4/6 against Arsenal and get to the quarter final? Why did Zenit romp the Europa league smashing Bayern Munich (who were at the time walking the Bundesliga) 5-1 on the way? There is many more example's of Russian teams coming into the CL/EL and matching the "big boys" but im too lazy to check for more examples right now.Basel beat us last week....Is the Swiss league now not dogshit? They also qualified ahead of Man United a couple of seasons ago.Results like that are aberrations. Unfortunately, so are 30 year olds coming out of semi-retirement and rediscovering form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 To a certain extent. He's not a 30+ year old whose pace was key to his success who has been playing some of his football in a deeper role.Basel beat us last week....Is the Swiss league now not dogshit? They also qualified ahead of Man United a couple of seasons ago.Results like that are aberrations. Unfortunately, so are 30 year olds coming out of semi-retirement and rediscovering form.Fair enough (regarding Witsel/Eto'o).At the same time how often to we get teams from Bulgaria, Austria or Hungary upsetting the big teams? i can't recall it ever happening, that would be the 'dog shit' league's, those countries have the type of teams we would play in qualifiers and group games and would win comfortably 29 times out of 30.The Swiss league only really has Basle that would give the top teams a game (or St Gallen aswell in our case ) in the Russian league there's the Moscow clubs, Zenit, Anzhi and Rubin who could and have given the big boys tough games on more than one occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The heading tells me Lukaku is the name & he is out on loan, needlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Arsenal give their talent chances and they have proved themselves. Look at Gnabry. They have a lot of injuries but once they give youngsters a chance they take it.You said it yourself. Arsenal are only playing Gnabry because they have no other option there. Walcott, Cazorla, Podolski, Oxlade, Rosicky are all out. Arsenal's squad is injury ravaged, and that's the only reason Gnabry is playing. Not because Wenger wanted to give his talents a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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