didierforever 7,349 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Luiz just tweeted this..kudos to the future cap (luiz not romelu.)... the way he consoled him,,, brilliant. Barbara, Christacinto and DJames 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! zolayes 14,489 Posted August 30, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 30, 2013 Luiz MUST be our next captain kellzfresh, DJames, Christacinto and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Just couldn't believe such a huge man can hit a penalty so soft. Good thing we have people like Lamps, JT and Jose who will lift the lad up. I can imagine Didier giving him a ring aswell.Lesson learned hopefully.Didier will be able to relate to what he did tonight in a way, he got sent off in the 2008 final in Moscow (obviously not a missed penalty but still effectively the same as one as hes a specialist at penalties and you'd have backed him to score), hopefully Romelu gets second chance in a European final to put things right. He will be the best person to pick Romelu up, hes his idol and he has had such a similar thing happen to him in a way. The Skipper and DJames 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Remember what happend to Kakuta after he missed the decisive penalty in a league cup shoot-out.. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Remember what happend to Kakuta after he missed the decisive penalty in a league cup shoot-out..Kakuta does not have the same mentality as Lukaku though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Wouldn't know, I'm not a psychologist. They both have (had in Kakuta's case) similar roles (reputations/expectancy) in the team at the time in which the events took place. Henrique and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think we are the first team EVER to have played in successive finals a glass of sherry should be half FULL not half emptyPorto also played 2 consecutive finals when Mourinho won the UEFA CUP in 2003 and the Champions in 2004. And Porto also lost both games I think. Mourinho lost in 2003 against Milan (European CHampion), and Luis Fernandez lost against Valencia (UEFA Cup winner). I'm not sure about this second game but I think it was like that. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Porto also played 2 consecutive finals when Mourinho won the UEFA CUP in 2003 and the Champions in 2004. And Porto also lost both games I think. Mourinho lost in 2003 against Milan (European CHampion), and Luis Fernandez lost against Valencia (UEFA Cup winner). I'm not sure about this second game but I think it was like that.thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouletje 82 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 both feet on the ground again, back some modesty in his heart and open for business now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 31, 2013 Lol. I said he offered up no threat but pointed out I was more annoyed by his lack of defensive effort. Poor attitude and desire from a player competing with 3 other players for one spot.Eto'o and Torres are better options for me. Deal with it.You were practically campaiging against the Cavani signing in the summer so Lukaku got a chance, now you want Lukaku to be shipped out on loan to give time to one off the worst players in our history? Jesus fuking christ. bababoom, chelseathebest, Stingray and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 How he performs from now on will define him as a player as little disappontments like this make great players. Look at Bayern they came back stronger after losing to us. Look at drogba he let the team down in Moscow but he came back a stronger player, although I think Mou made a mistake giving him the last penalty it was good experience for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Wouldn't know, I'm not a psychologist. They both have (had in Kakuta's case) similar roles (reputations/expectancy) in the team at the time in which the events took place.Kakuta was always overrated in my opinion. He looked flashy at the beginning, great long shots, wanted to prove a point. But he had all the time in the world to come back and he just didn't. We sent him on loan to Bolton, Fulham hell didn't we even send him to an affiliate? No matter what he just wouldn't impress.Lukaku is miles ahead of Kakuta in my opinion, I don't think the league cup affected Kakuta I just don't think Kakuta was ever going to be world class to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tomo 21,751 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 All tonight done was further strengthen what i have been saying all summer and why i was more than happy for Cavani to come.Lukaku is going to be a great player for us, just not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Henrique 9,133 Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 31, 2013 Feel sorry for the kid, I think Mourinho made a mistake giving him the last one. To be honest his penalty was pretty poor. Some people say a hate the guy, but thats not the case. I hate those people who make him look better than he really is. That wont help, it will just put a lot of pressure on him. He can do a lot better than that poor shoot, but it was a matter of mentality. He is not ready yet to be the leading CF, for me its clear. Still a player for the future, he will be the 3rd choice behind Torres and Eto'o, but only stupid people would say we are destroying his career by doing this, he is only 20 years old, and few players in the world at this age can even make the bench of a top european club.The problem is I think Lukaku also believe he is ready to be the number 1 striker, he is only 20, at this age men usually think they are better than they really are. He can definitely make it, but he has a long way to run before that. Having a manager like Mourinho will only help him. kellzfresh, Blue Armour, Christacinto and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 You were practically campaiging against the Cavani signing in the summer so Lukaku got a chance, now you want Lukaku to be shipped out on loan to give time to one off the worst players in our history? Jesus fuking christ.You mad?I was happy with him staying here until the Eto'o signing. Send him out on loan for another year of experience.Sammy scored 37 goals and added another 15 assists next year. Torres is brilliant backup, don't see him getting enough minutes if he stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 You mad?I was happy with him staying here until the Eto'o signing.Send him out on loan for another year of experience.Sammy scored 37 goals and added another 15 assists next year. Torres is brilliant backup, don't see him getting enough minutes if he stays.No, he will learn more playing few games as a Chelsea player, than playing a entire season as a West Browinch player. Being a player in a top european club is about felling no pressure, and getting to know the environment and a manager's philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I feel really sorry for him. It broke my heart... especially his reaction.I have a few doubts about him - I don't think he's what that most people in the thread (or the forum) makes him out to be, I don't see a lot of similarities between him and Didier (I think they're different kind of strikers) and I think he should continue to be benched most matches and I defend Torres being subbed (in, as Eto'o will clearly be the starter) more often than him at first. Meaning that I believe (and support the idea) he won't be listed in the bench in a few matches in the next months.It has nothing to do with tonight's penalty - although that does show his age. I can't crucify a boy for crumbling under such astonishing pressure, but I sort of agree with someone who said it's a double standard. So he's ready to be our lead striker - as most suggested - but he isn't ready to take a penalty in a final. Uhh... I sort of see where the inconsistency of stating both things is. Which doesn't change my opinion about him and the opportunities he should be given. That penalty just proved what I've thought all along: he's not emotionally ready. I'm not even sure he's technically ready to be honest (the few doubts about him I have) so why not have him conjure both things slowly, in a healthy progress that will allow him to play a few cup matches as a starter, but mainly being a super sub in maybe 40-60% of our matches?Why the rush? The rush could be his pitfall - as proved today. He shouldn't have taken the penalty. I've read some of you claiming he was the one who called upon himself to be part of the list. If that's the case I don't know if I blame Mourinho more - as he should be the one to know best - or if Lukaku shares the blame I put on Mourinho because he shouldn't take responsibilities he isn't ready to take. Taking a penalty in a final isn't how he'll pave his way into the starting XI or even become a better option to Mourinho than Torres and if that was what he had in mind when he supposedly asked to be part of the list it's yet another factor that proves he's not ready.So for me - regardless of the penalty - our options in the attack are 1) Eto'o - in the starting XI; 2) Torres as the one being subbed; 3) Lukaku for less important matches and some subs. The moment he starts showing he's technically and emotionally better than Torres than he takes position #2. That's how it works under Mourinho. It's about merid and hard work. Torres was really good today, but we all know he doesn't necessarily repeat that consecutively anymore. So Lukaku may even have more chances when Torres starts the downward. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I dont like how people are overprotecting Lukaku. Not in the slightest. But I dont like the other end of the story either, in which people are overreacting and calling him names for absolutely no justifiable reason!Of course we shouldnt crucify him for one mistake, but we also shouldnt act like he didnt cost us a trophy and it is all super fine. He must learn from this!Telling Romelu to fuck off and saying he did nothing wrong and using his age as an excuse are just as stupid, IMO. It is definitely not the end of the world, but it was also a very bad attempt. A player that aspires to be what he wants to, cant have shut a shocker like he did yesterday. It is something he will have to work on.I hate how arseholes on the internet (I dont mean here in the forum) saying he must be loaned or whatever, but I also hate those who try to hide and sweep under the carpet his horrible penalty... The best we can do is support Lukaku so he can overcome it (as he was deeply hurted after missing the penalty). However, I wonder if the reaction would have been just as positive if Oscar or Schurrle had done the same thing... Blue Roar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 People saying why did he take pen? well because all we had left was him, Mikel and the defenders. He scored many at WBA also, so it was just a matter of him choking on a big stage - something that can happen to anyone.For example - Drogba has missed 2 decisive pens in Afcon finals. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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