The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Lukaku was willing to fight for his place initially but after being left out the line up for 4 games in a row despite scoring most of our goals in pre-season I think he saw what road it was going down. I don't think it was a simple case of him not willing to compete. I think Jose may of indicate he might not get as much starts as he wishes and due to being a world cup year etc, both manager and player probably agreed it will be best where he is starting every game rather than be a pit part player here as Jose obviously thought he had 3 capable strikers of doing the job, which proved wrong.Against Hull he got 15 minutes.Against Villa he got 25 minutes.Against Man United we didn't start with a striker and Torres got 30 minutes coming on for De Bruyne.Against some German team whose name escapes me, he got 22 minutes after coming on for Torres who scored for us.United was a weird one because we didn't actually play with a striker and the German team was a glorified friendly so I might exclude them if that's ok.So in the other two games he was actually getting more time on the pitch as the games went on, yet he decided that he had no chance of getting more than 5-10 games a season because Eto'o was signed? Fuck me, he was even trusted with a penalty in the shootout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius 121 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I think he would work well under Moyes longball tactics and the amount of crosses United does...Sell him to United for 30m.I feel Tottenham will be a much better squad next season with the acquisition of Van Gaal and a few more players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Against Hull he got 15 minutes.Against Villa he got 25 minutes.Against Man United we didn't start with a striker and Torres got 30 minutes coming on for De Bruyne.Against some German team whose name escapes me, he got 22 minutes after coming on for Torres who scored for us.United was a weird one because we didn't actually play with a striker and the German team was a glorified friendly so I might exclude them if that's ok.So in the other two games he was actually getting more time on the pitch as the games went on, yet he decided that he had no chance of getting more than 5-10 games a season because Eto'o was signed? Fuck me, he was even trusted with a penalty in the shootout. The thing is though if he could not get ahead of Ba and Torres initially who had done nothing to warrant a start and were shit then Jose brings Eto'o along it was pretty obvious he was going to get frustrated. Even as the season went on Jose probably would of realised he would of had to start him but he was not trusted ahead of the aforementioned two in the first place he probably thought there was no chance of playing when Eto'o came. The reason why I reckon Jose is equally to blame for Lukaku's departure because one he never started him in games where I believe he warranted a start and two, Lukaku said many times at the beginning of the season that he will fight for his spot but although it was pre-season, what else do you have to do show that he should of been in the starting line up in at least one of the four games? I can understand why he asked for a loan move. Pre-season was a platform to impress Jose and he did so him moving to Everton was probably his way to show Jose I am ready to be your no.1 striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The thing is though if he could not get ahead of Ba and Torres initially who had done nothing to warrant a start and were shit then Jose brings Eto'o along it was pretty obvious he was going to get frustrated. Even as the season went on Jose probably would of realised he would of had to start him but he was not trusted ahead of the aforementioned two in the first place he probably thought there was no chance of playing when Eto'o came. The reason why I reckon Jose is equally to blame for Lukaku's departure because one he never started him in games where I believe he warranted a start and two, Lukaku said many times at the beginning of the season that he will fight for his spot but although it was pre-season, what else do you have to do show that he should of been in the starting line up in at least one of the four games? I can understand why he asked for a loan move. Pre-season was a platform to impress Jose and he did so him moving to Everton was probably his way to show Jose I am ready to be your no.1 striker.Pre-season is meaningless. It's about fitness more than anything else, but in the first few games Mourinho gave starts to Torres, Ba and then Eto'o. It's not unfair to think that Lukaku would've got starts as the Champions League started ramping up and we also had League Cup games coming.Honestly, I just wish he'd never asked for the move because I think he would've been a massive player for us this season. I just don't think Mourinho is the type of guy you can ask for a transfer from and expect him to forget it. He places far too much stock in character and there's no way this isn't a red mark against your name.It's just a shitty situation all round. Mohammed Seif and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Reddish-Blue, seanptmiller and The only place to be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 This is a guy who said it was his dream to play for the club yet a few games left out (not unlike Schurrle and Azpi faced) and a bit of competition (weak competition at that) and he's asking to leave Chelsea Football Club???A few games plus an entire season after he was first bought. I bet they promised him playing time then as well. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Give me £30m, He's not at the level of Costa and Mandzukic.Mandzukic is overrated, I watch him a lot. His goalscoring record is impressive, but it's easy to score goals when you lead the line for Bayern in the Bundesliga. A Bayern that smash everybody 5,6,-0. Costa on the other hand is superb. But we need both Costa and Lukaku fighting for the number 1 spot, not "either or". BloodIsBlue and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Alot of pressure now for Romelu because of benteke's injury,im curious how he will handle it at the WC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Why doesnt Mourinho want him? Im curious to be honest it surely cant be just abt having a big mouth because we seem to have a couple of those in this squad GhanaBoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Alot of pressure now for Romelu because of benteke's injury,im curious how he will handle it at the WCi'm sure he's already buzzing while obviously feeling bad for Benteke. Belgium's strong-point is that they have a really good chemistry going. But gives Wilmot a bigger headache I feel. It was an injury they could have done away with.Why doesnt Mourinho want him? Im curious to be honest it surely cant be just abt having a big mouth because we seem to have a couple of those in this squad Mourinho has never come out and said he doesn't want him. If i've missed it, do let me know. When asked about the subject , he said the loan is working well and there have been no bids so far. It's more like some of the fans here don't want him while others do. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Why doesnt Mourinho want him? Im curious to be honest it surely cant be just abt having a big mouth because we seem to have a couple of those in this squad Mourinho wants a young Eto'o. Someone who can link up with others, good control of the ball (especially in tight spaces) and good at finishing. Yes Lukaku is young but he is never going to have good close control. His link up play can be worked on and his finishing is solid. Control, especially in tight areas is horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamon 103 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Mourinho wants a young Eto'o. Someone who can link up with others, good control of the ball (especially in tight spaces) and good at finishing. Yes Lukaku is young but he is never going to have good close control. His link up play can be worked on and his finishing is solid. Control, especially in tight areas is horrible.So basically he wants the best striker in the world, because a younger Eto'o that was.The player who now comes closer to this definition is Luis Suarez, but for a list of reasons this is not gonna happen.Being said that, Diego Costa or Cavani would be fantastic, absolutely; indeed, as I keep saying, our dogma should be:Bring back LukakuSign Costa/CavaniKeep Eto'o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I think we can all agree that he won't be first choice here next season. Hence, if we get a 30-35m bid for him, then I can see the reasoning behind selling him. Of course it would be a shame to lose a young player with such great potential, but as great as potential is, sometimes you just need a top player in his prime. And the reported value can fund the signing of one. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Romelu was always have flaws, but he's got something that you can teach and it can't be learned which is the innate ability to score goals. Think of all the games when Chelsea brought on a striker in the last 30 minutes and go zero production. Lukaku would have helped immensely but at the cost of his own development. The bigger problem is why the board only added Eto'o and kept Torres and thought BA was sufficent. Frankly only Eto was sufficent and in a home only role. There should be a top striker, 2nd striker who can provide coverage and spot starts, and third one should be a young player who cna inject youthful exuberence and learn to itnergrate into the system. Neither Ba, torres, or Eto'o fit those qualities.Next year I'd like to see a bonified #1 (Actually wanted Benteke but with the Achiies no so much) Lukaku, Eto'o/Piazon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moros 86 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Romelu was always have flaws, but he's got something that you can teach and it can't be learned which is the innate ability to score goals. Think of all the games when Chelsea brought on a striker in the last 30 minutes and go zero production. Lukaku would have helped immensely but at the cost of his own development. The bigger problem is why the board only added Eto'o and kept Torres and thought BA was sufficent. Frankly only Eto was sufficent and in a home only role. There should be a top striker, 2nd striker who can provide coverage and spot starts, and third one should be a young player who cna inject youthful exuberence and learn to itnergrate into the system. Neither Ba, torres, or Eto'o fit those qualities.Next year I'd like to see a bonified #1 (Actually wanted Benteke but with the Achiies no so much) Lukaku, Eto'o/PiazonPersonally I'd be hoping for Lukaku to become the second choice striker. Usually as a supersub, when things are going bad. Occasional starter to rest the first choice or when we expect to not have too much possesion and might want to score on a counterattack. (City away for example) Also Lukaku works pretty well in a 2 striker system, Mourinho often puts on two strikers when we go behind, however it hasn't been working much lately. With Lukaku I could see that change. Piazon however I'd loan out some more for his and our sake. While he starter of pretty well at Vitesse, he's now still in the process of learning to deal with being marked much more (often being doubled up). So he is still learning a lot there and doesn't seem to be yet at a level he could really help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted April 5, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 5, 2014 All you pseudo experts can keep whining about his so called lack of effort or will to fight for a place, the only reason Mourinho doesn't seem to rate him is the fact he doesn't want to admit his mistake of letting him go on loan, especially because our strikers are borderline retarded in front of goal.Lukaku instead of Torres would have gained us at least some points, perhaps enough to grab the title. Las7, Blue-in-me-Veins, Stats and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 All you pseudo experts can keep whining about his so called lack of effort or will to fight for a place, the only reason Mourinho doesn't seem to rate him is the fact he doesn't want to admit his mistake of letting him go on loan, especially because our strikers are borderline retarded in front of goal.Lukaku instead of Torres would have gained us at least some points, perhaps enough to grab the title.I agree with you. I feel keeping Lukaku would save so much money in the summer as well. I'd rather keep a Premier League-proven striker and spend no money, than to waste millions of pounds on a striker from a different league, and gamble on whether he will settle in quickly or not. It completely disrupts the type of game that we want to play every time we change the system up!!People seem to forget we paid £18 million for Lukaku.. for him to do what? Sit on a bench? Go out on loan? Nah we paid that much for him to be the Drogba replacement. I guess that hasn't worked out then.. all because we want to see a £50m player up front who, I don't think fits at all well in our setup! bouletje 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I agree with you. I feel keeping Lukaku would save so much money in the summer as well. I'd rather keep a Premier League-proven striker and spend no money, than to waste millions of pounds on a striker from a different league, and gamble on whether he will settle in quickly or not. It completely disrupts the type of game that we want to play every time we change the system up!!People seem to forget we paid £18 million for Lukaku.. for him to do what? Sit on a bench? Go out on loan? Nah we paid that much for him to be the Drogba replacement. I guess that hasn't worked out then.. all because we want to see a £50m player up front who, I don't think fits at all well in our setup!To be fair I do believe we need a WC striker and I don't think he's ready to be our first striker yet, which ofcourse is completely normal being so young.I'm not even sure he'll ever be good enough to completely be relied on as our primary striker. But right now he is 20 years old and has scored in abundance for mediocre teams in the PL.I can't get my head around how people want to sell such a talented youngster, especially after having witnessed a season of fail from our 'strikers'. Eden2020, bouletje, Stingray and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sastha 21 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 bony would be quite expensive. dont think we will sign him AND another 1st option stirker. especially as we also have to sign a LB and a CM tooEtoo, Costa, Remy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 gets a good attempt which leads to the goal.but is he starting on the wing today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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