kellzfresh 7,229 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Lukaku is still young, just 20/21 and will only get better. Him coming off the bench and providing us with genuine goal threat next season is vital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Lukaku is still young, will only get better. Him coming off the bench and providing us with genuine goal threat next season is vital.That´s true, he will get better. However, is he willing to sit around & play 15 minutes a game at Chelsea? I doubt it. Jose will not mold his team to cater for Lukaku, he needs others to pass the ball to him, then Lukaku scores. Jose knows it, that´s why he will sell him & bring someone who can fight for the ball, creates chances for himself. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The lack of respect from some posters, for a kid that was deemed "not good enough" by practically everyone 3 years ago and since has done nothing else than working hard to overcome that label, is actually stunning to me.Also, of the top strikers named above, only Costa might be available if Courtois is brought to the table. Why would Bayern, PSG, Monaco, Real, et cetera sell one of their top players to a competitor for the CL? They sure as hell don't need the money and all of them are playing regularly. Who else is of that level? Where are you going to buy this "top" striker?This is the first season Costa scored more than 10 goals in a national league. Lukaku scored more than ten (fifteen) goals every year since he was 16 (except for the one he spent at the Chelsea reserves). Martinez is not a world class striker either. Every decent striker can score more than 20 goals in Portugal when playing at Porto or Benfica. As I said, they'd better get somebody much better first before thinking of selling him. But it's not like there's ten of them available right now.You guys just have a tendency to look at every striker not playing for you as if he was Pele... Reddish-Blue, didierforever, Mufassir08 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The lack of respect from some posters, for a kid that was deemed "not good enough" by practically everyone 3 years ago and since has done nothing else than working hard to overcome that label, is actually stunning to me.Also, of the top strikers named above, only Costa might be available if Courtois is brought to the table. Why would Bayern, PSG, Monaco, Real, et cetera sell one of their top players to a competitor for the CL? They sure as hell don't need the money and all of them are playing regularly. Who else is of that level? Where are you going to buy this "top" striker?This is the first season Costa scored more than 10 goals in a national league. Lukaku scored more than ten (fifteen) goals every year since he was 16 (except for the one he spent at the Chelsea reserves). Martinez is not a world class striker either. Every decent striker can score more than 20 goals in Portugal when playing at Porto or Benfica. As I said, they'd better get somebody much better first before thinking of selling him. But it's not like there's ten of them available right now.You guys just have a tendency to look at every striker not playing for you as if he was Pele...Costa is available if he wants to leave, and let's not pretend that he isn't a better player than Lukaku - he is, but he's older so that's natural. Lukaku still needs to work a bit harder and that may come with time but he's certainly burnt bridges at this club with his attitude.Also, regarding Lukaku wanting a loan...can you blame him? He knew if Chelsea signed an experienced striker (e.g Eto'o), he would fall down the pecking order to third choice whilst the Spanish flop got chance after chance after chance to prove himself...Maybe not, but Jose expects more from players. He wants them to want to be the best, to want to work harder than everyone else and not give up. It's why Azpilicueta has become one of his favourites this season. He worked unbelievably hard in training and then took his chances in the matches to the point where he's undroppable.Can anyone honestly say that they think Jose would be happy with a player facing some adversity and then asking to leave the club? Is that what Frank should've done when Roman bought the club and we spent massively? Or did Frank work harder and score DOUBLE the number of goals the next season?What worries me is that Lukaku saw Eto'o, Ba and Torres ahead of him and didn't back himself to overcome them. He instead went somewhere he was virtually guaranteed a start each week. Does anyone seriously think that wouldn't raise red flags in Jose's mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Costa is available if he wants to leave, and let's not pretend that he isn't a better player than Lukaku - he isWell he might get a chance to prove that claim next season. We'll see. ;-)Also, he was already better than Ba en Torres last season and this preseason, yet didn't get any real chances during the first month. Then Eto'o was bought. Every half-intelligent player would have left if there was a good opportunity. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Who's asking to sell Lukaku and buy Bony?Euhm .... Eto'o, Costa and Bony....or Eto, Cavani, BonySo the answer would be: You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Give me £30m, He's not at the level of Costa and Mandzukic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Euhm .... So the answer would be: You Nope. I have never said we should buy Bony, what I have said along with Hernandez, Bony, Michu and players like that would be decent additions to the squad who would be willing to fight for a place because that is what they are doing at their current clubs. I also stated members could 'Insert the name here'It's all hypothetical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Can anyone honestly say that they think Jose would be happy with a player facing some adversity and then asking to leave the club? Is that what Frank should've done when Roman bought the club and we spent massively? Or did Frank work harder and score DOUBLE the number of goals the next season?What worries me is that Lukaku saw Eto'o, Ba and Torres ahead of him and didn't back himself to overcome them. He instead went somewhere he was virtually guaranteed a start each week. Does anyone seriously think that wouldn't raise red flags in Jose's mind?Comparing anyone to Frank is a bit harsh. If all the youngsters had Frank's level of work ethic in the training ground, we wouldn't need to spend so much cash... The only place to be, Mohammed Seif and Henrique 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Well he might get a chance to prove that claim next season. We'll see. ;-)Also, he was already better than Ba en Torres last season and this preseason, yet didn't get any real chances during the first month. Then Eto'o was bought. Every half-intelligent player would have left if there was a good opportunity. It's very hard to just walk into a Jose team though. I know there were question marks over his fitness, just like there were with Schurrle, but I'm certain that if he had worked hard in training he would've got a shot.Lukaku should've just looked at the players he was competing with, backed himself to displace them and knuckled down rather than asking for a move. Maybe it was a heat of the moment thing or maybe he was trying to force Jose's hand but whatever the motives, the end result is a lot of burned bridges.Like I've said before, he needs Chelsea much more than Chelsea needs him.Comparing anyone to Frank is a bit harsh. If all the youngsters had Frank's level of work ethic in the training ground, we wouldn't need to spend so much cash... Agree totally, but I just think no-one is going to expect someone like Jose to take a request like that favourably. If you don't want to play for the club then Jose has no problems in letting you go, but I also don't think he forgets easily. He's got an ego and he can probably be a spiteful prick at times, but he's also a winner. Lukaku could've learnt under one of the best managers in the world but instead his agent is discussing a move with a club who doesn't even have a manager.... Honestly, Lukaku needs better people advising him because the ones he has right now aren't doing a good job. Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Nope. I have never said we should buy Bony, what I have said along with Hernandez, Bony, Michu and players like that would be decent additions to the squad who would be willing to fight for a place because that is what they are doing at their current clubs. I also stated members could 'Insert the name here'It's all hypothetical.I really don't get the 'not willing to fight for his place' vibe. If there is something Lukaku alway does... it is fight for his place! BUT unless other complete fools... he also has brains. So he is also thinking about a good career plan. A loan was always the best option for him (Torres, Ba AND recently bought Eto'o before him in the picking list).I would sell Torres & Ba.Keep Eto'o... Buy Costa (if realistic) & bring Lukaku back to the bridge!He doens't feel 'to good' to start on the bench (like others are thinking here). I'm sure he will be more than happy to be the 2nd striker after Costa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 You are right, he already lost 1 full year rotting on the bench.Ask Kalas what he thinks about about Lukaku's loan request... Eden2020 and Reddish-Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stats 7,142 Posted April 4, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 4, 2014 Costa is available if he wants to leave, and let's not pretend that he isn't a better player than Lukaku - he is, but he's older so that's natural. Lukaku still needs to work a bit harder and that may come with time but he's certainly burnt bridges at this club with his attitude.Maybe not, but Jose expects more from players. He wants them to want to be the best, to want to work harder than everyone else and not give up. It's why Azpilicueta has become one of his favourites this season. He worked unbelievably hard in training and then took his chances in the matches to the point where he's undroppable.Can anyone honestly say that they think Jose would be happy with a player facing some adversity and then asking to leave the club? Is that what Frank should've done when Roman bought the club and we spent massively? Or did Frank work harder and score DOUBLE the number of goals the next season?What worries me is that Lukaku saw Eto'o, Ba and Torres ahead of him and didn't back himself to overcome them. He instead went somewhere he was virtually guaranteed a start each week. Does anyone seriously think that wouldn't raise red flags in Jose's mind?Lukaku was willing to fight for his place initially but after being left out the line up for 4 games in a row despite scoring most of our goals in pre-season I think he saw what road it was going down. I don't think it was a simple case of him not willing to compete. I think Jose may of indicate he might not get as much starts as he wishes and due to being a world cup year etc, both manager and player probably agreed it will be best where he is starting every game rather than be a pit part player here as Jose obviously thought he had 3 capable strikers of doing the job, which proved wrong. Eden2020, Mufassir08, mediator and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Toli 977 Posted April 4, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 4, 2014 Isnt it kinda hypocritic to criticize a player for having the wrong attitude while he decided to leave to play REGULARLY and GET BETTER. you only get better while playing on the field and not in training. And Everton are a really good side to get better with Martinez.Lukaku was completely left out at the beginning of the season, so its no wonder, that he thought he had no chance to get in there. we have a 50 m piece of garbage in our team, a new striker named Etoo who is a Mou favorite and also Ba. At best, Lukaku was our 3rd striker at the beginning and he didnt want to participate in 5-10 games in a season.If we sell him its not for sporting reasons, its because of Mourinhos big ego. as soon as he falls out with somebody, there is no comeback for him. Even though I dont even understand why he has fallen out with Romelu Reddish-Blue, dee25, Las7 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Like I've said before, he needs Chelsea much more than Chelsea needs him. Lukaku could've learnt under one of the best managers in the world but instead his agent is discussing a move with a club who doesn't even have a manager.... Honestly, Lukaku needs better people advising him because the ones he has right now aren't doing a good job.He doesn't "need" Chelsea...if he chose to leave, there would definitely be alot of interest in his servicesWe have a 20 year old who has scored 29 goals in roughly 60 EPL games....yet just because he left the club to improve his skills and play reguarly in a world cup year, we're willing to sell him? Keikoismad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba 10 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Small question. Do you think Chelsea will be champions this year? Would they be if they had Lukaku? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius 121 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Small question. Do you think Chelsea will be champions this year? Would they be if they had Lukaku?Nope.....Nope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Small question. Do you think Chelsea will be champions this year? Would they be if they had Lukaku?Still possible. Did not think so when the season started.Don't think it would have made much of a difference. Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He doesn't "need" Chelsea...if he chose to leave, there would definitely be alot of interest in his servicesWe have a 20 year old who has scored 29 goals in roughly 60 EPL games....yet just because he left the club to improve his skills and play reguarly in a world cup year, we're willing to sell him?The interest seems to be coming from teams like Everton and Spurs rather than the top clubs. Is Daniel Levy's judgment of players better than Mourinho's?It's amazing how we criticise someone like Rooney who puts in a request to leave the club but defend Lukaku. This is a guy who said it was his dream to play for the club yet a few games left out (not unlike Schurrle and Azpi faced) and a bit of competition (weak competition at that) and he's asking to leave Chelsea Football Club???Oh it's a world cup year. Well that's great. He's guaranteed himself at least 3 games at a world cup he's got an outside chance of winning. Mohammed Seif, CHOULO19, hjperdeath and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The interest seems to be coming from teams like Everton and Spurs rather than the top clubs. Is Daniel Levy's judgment of players better than Mourinho's?It's amazing how we criticise someone like Rooney who puts in a request to leave the club but defend Lukaku. This is a guy who said it was his dream to play for the club yet a few games left out (not unlike Schurrle and Azpi faced) and a bit of competition (weak competition at that) and he's asking to leave Chelsea Football Club???Oh it's a world cup year. Well that's great. He's guaranteed himself at least 3 games at a world cup he's got an outside chance of winning. spot on. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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