🇧🇪 Thibaut Courtois

[Ledg 643]

Apparently he missed training today.

Weak mentality or coach decision?

[Milan 17,956]

2 hours ago, Ledgi said:

Apparently he missed training today.

Weak mentality or coach decision?

Probably busy making improvements on hit kit

[Amblève. 4,995]

9 hours ago, cfcs most wanted said:

Come on guys, I know Courtois was horrendous in the match yesterday, but he does hardly put a foot wrong.

Nah. If we're gonna settle for the level of goalkeeping that Courtois provides on a regular basis it's no wonder that this club is sliding into Arsenal territory. This is a guy who has no distribution whatsoever, is afraid or incapable of coming out of his six-yard box, and concedes far too many ridiculous goals for a supposedly top-GK. This is a guy who didn't want to be coached by Christophe fucking Lollichon, arguably one of the best GK coaches in the world.

9 hours ago, cfcs most wanted said:

All of you are just looking for a reason to hate on him because he has a big mouth in public

Again - nah. Some of us has just seen the light before the rest but even the Courtois backers will come around and realise that we can do much better than Courtois. The only reason Courtois hasn't been exposed as much as last night so far is our defensive structure. In past few years we've been one of the best teams at suppressing shots and yet when Courtois has been called into action he hasn't been up to it. That to me is the epitome of a "system goalkeeper", someone who needs his team to protect him more than the team needs him to protect them.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He is generaly very good golakeeper, but there are two things;

1.) He cant be relied upon. With Cech, you knew it was great asset to have, someone who can literaly win you game. Someone who will perform at very best when you need him. Someone who is as important as lets say strikers or midfielders. Same can be said about Neuer or Buffon or Oblak etc. Tibo while good goalkeeper, I just cant ever expect he will actualy put great performance. When we played barca in 2012, it was so obvious Cech will do his job and I felt calm when he was at goal. With Tibo its just impossible, he makes stupid shit and rarely steps forward and actualy gives that extra. Obviously he is gk and will makes some saves and he actualy makes some great saves. But with Cech we could play absolute shit, he would make save after save in same game and keep us in game. Tibo makes 2 great saves then he concedes. Bad luck or quality opponents, but Cech had so many amazing games throughout the career, while I could count on one hand of extraordinary games Tibo had.

2.) I dont see him personaly involved with the club or teammates. Cech looked realy settled here, you could see on the pitch or videos he was loyal to club and had great relationship with teammates. Tibo just doesnt have that. Surely you see some glimpses, but its clear thats not it.

Last year I finaly got feeling he has settled, gets along with everyone and began with that deep connection to the club, that he actualy gives a shit about Chelsea. But this season its again same old crap.

I usualy get quite attached to cfc players if they are quality or have that connection with club, for me its not that easy to see them leave. From Didi, Cech, Terry obviously but also to the likes of Eden, Costa or Luiz,...all had their great moments with the club and when they left/will leave, its always a sad day. But with Tibo, honestly if we sold him in summer and brought lets say Oblak, I wouldnt mind at the slightest.

He is very good goalkeeper, but he simply isnt great. And given he isnt exactly character or passionate about club, there isnt much to truly like about him tbh.

[Riquelme 4]

He has regressed so much as a goalkeeper. 

He doesn't even try anymore to catch crosses, he stays in his box.

He's shit at one on one, closing his first post, everyone knows they have good chance if they shoot low first post.

And he rarely catches the ball on shots, blocking in random fashion, ball often bouncing back towards opponents.

[Blusan Alamb 295]

 

[Special Juan 28,141]

That performance against Barcelona will have had Madrid hitting the reverse button.

[nyikolajevics 2,698]

I don't really care if Courtois leaves.. Rip Real or PSG off and he can go if that's what he wants. There are many great young goalkeepers in the top leagues - Rico, Lafont, Alisson, Strakosha, Perin, Leno, etc etc.

I firmly believe that the goalkeepers role is not that important in modern football. Of course a good keeper can make a difference but the defense and the midfield is much more important. Barcelona were on their prime with Victor Valdes, Real won everything with Keylor Navas while MU struggles with De Gea.

 

I would be happy if Thibaut stayed as he is a great goallie but if we can sell him for good money and use that money to strenghten the midfield or defense then let it be. Keeping Kanté and Hazard would be much more important.

[Ledg 643]

I guess he knows after Wednesday Real would have looked away.

[Tomo 21,751]

So after Wednesday it's clear most of you want a new keeper, maybe De Gea or Donnaruma, they would never let their team down and concede avoidable goals on a big European night.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

So, we are stuck with him?...

[Blusan Alamb 295]

 

[the wes 7,212]

Edit

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, Blusan Alamb said:

 

"Working hard in training" is such a cliche I'm so tired of it. Always talk talk talk, time to apply all that hard work on the pitch, but nope... we see same recurring shit regularly and not only with him. Just shut up and deliver the goods or fuck off.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

[manpe 10,861]

43 minutes ago, Bosnian Blue said:

Omg didn't see that. A straight pass to Messi of all people, he wasn't even trying. 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, Blusan Alamb said:

 

Does that mean he hasn't been working hard? 

[Beigl 1,387]

6 hours ago, Tomo said:

So after Wednesday it's clear most of you want a new keeper, maybe De Gea or Donnaruma, they would never let their team down and concede avoidable goals on a big European night.

In comparison to De Gea Courtois makes this mistakes for years now. He got exposed from the near post regularly in 2015 and still didn´t improve ever since. Courtois isn´t a bad keeper at all, no one in their right mind would claim that, but he isn´t anywhere near the likes of De Gea or Oblak for example. 

[Superblue 6,372]

5 hours ago, Bosnian Blue said:

I've noticed this a lot of times this season and the fault cannot be entirely on Courtois. He must be under pressure from Conte to play in this way. Courtois in my opinion is a very good goalkeeper but he is not good with the ball at his feet, yet we seem to insist on playing out from the back. It's all fine and well when we're not being pressed as we recycle possession but when teams press high against us we still seem to do it and have got ourselves into trouble on multiple occasions this season.

It's ironic because City don't even try and play out from the back as much as us. They will coax a team to push up a little higher and Ederson will then launch it long over the top for Aguero, Sane, Sterling to chase. We never seem to mix it up.

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, Beigl said:

In comparison to De Gea Courtois makes this mistakes for years now. He got exposed from the near post regularly in 2015 and still didn´t improve ever since. Courtois isn´t a bad keeper at all, no one in their right mind would claim that, but he isn´t anywhere near the likes of De Gea or Oblak for example. 

De Gea fucks up a lot more than general opinion suggests, he's made many errors vs us alone in the past (including being easily beaten for Willian's recent goal at Old Trafford) and single handedly derailed Spain Euro 2016. I mean he's very good but he's helped by playing for such a shite defense that gives him the exposure to make up for his mistakes, i just can't subscribe to have a keeper who's average at best at commanding his area (even United fans are picking up on this) and makes silly mistakes often as the worlds best keeper (not saying Courtois is either). 

 

For the supposed best thing since sliced bread there ain't half some embarrassing blunders in there and that's only last season (plus Euro 2016). De Gea actually reminds me of Cudicini (he's better but they share striking similarities), excellent shot stopper and in his element when facing shot after shot, but when we started building a top team where Cudicini only needed to be called upon once or twice a game, he looked lost and couldn't keep concentration. If/when DDG transfers to Real i will be very intreged to see how he copes with the transition.