termninja 5,290 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 AVB's future can go down in 2 different paths:1. We miss out on CL and the board decides to sack him and bring in Guus as he is free now.or2. He qualifies us for CL and stays, perhaps wins a Carling Cup trophy along the way.I fully believe that if given time and money, he can build a great team playing attacking football that our favorite Russian has been wanting so long, but for that, he needs to avoid the merciless Roman axe that many have fallen to, including the world greats like Jose, Scolari and Ancelotti.I really hope it's option 2 He has my support, even if we miss out CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8901274/Graphic-How-Chelsea-manager-Andres-Villas-Boas-compares-with-his-predecessors-at-Stamford-Bridge.htmlPosted this in the match thread but its appropriate here, hope its not been posted already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Gary Neville's comment was both brilliant and appropriate. Luiz has no discipline at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 AVB has been quoted saying Roman will not sack him. Making me think that he's been given the reassurance of time to build his own squad by Roman, I can't see him saying something like that without backing from Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 AVB has been quoted saying Roman will not sack him. Making me think that he's been given the reassurance of time to build his own squad by Roman, I can't see him saying something like that without backing from Roman.I read this also and thought much the same. He'd have some pair of conkers to make a claim like that if he wasn't sure it was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I read this also and thought much the same. He'd have some pair of conkers to make a claim like that if he wasn't sure it was true.Yep he'll look a twat if he's sacked at the end of the season. If he's done it without Roman's backing I can't imagine Roman will be too happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 toonfan saysNovember 21, 2011 3:43pmThis is ridiculous! The guy has been in the job for FOUR MONTHS! With a team he inherited. How anyone can say the 'dip in form' is all his fault, he has not even had a chance to make his mark by getting rid of those he doesn't want/need and bringing in those he does. People these days are way too quick to criticise people. Why doe's AVB even need to talk about his future? Chelsea paid £18 million for his services and would need to pay another few Million if they wanted to get rid of him, and who would they use to replace him? It's about time people were given time in football, to make a mark, not just 'win everything in a few months or you're sacked'. Get a grip people, this should not even be news!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Because Roman doesn't have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 AVB has been quoted saying Roman will not sack him. Making me think that he's been given the reassurance of time to build his own squad by Roman, I can't see him saying something like that without backing from Roman.Carlo started saying that a lot when the "bad moment" began last season. If the results don't pick up and we don't return to top 3 by Jan, I can definitely see the chop.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGuerreiro 252 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Alright, we've had a bad run. A very bad run.Back to back losses at SB is something we are not used to, or something we accept. The high line defence isn't working, our strikers are in poor form, we have no creativity in our squad if Mata isn't playing. There is talk about sacking AVB.Get a grip, honestly.I'm pretty new to this forum, although I've been following it for a while. But reading some of the comment make me question your tolerance towards the club. Everyone says that Roman is too quick to sack his managers, but still many of the fans are questioning his choice in Villas Boas and are saying he isn't the right guy to lead this team. He was brought for a reason, everyone agreed a transition was needed but still most of you demand that he leaves his tactics 12 games in the league.You wanted attacking football, you got attacking football. But after a few defeats most of you start questioning every detail of the attack-minded tactic.We shouldn't be demanding changes so early on, we knew this would be a tough season, man up and take it as it is. I hate losing to Liverpool, but I accept it since I know that we are trying new things. Have some patience, we still are Chelsea and I firmly believe that AVB will show us why he was brought here. Be it now or next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 AVB's future can go down in 2 different paths:1. We miss out on CL and the board decides to sack him and bring in Guus as he is free now.or2. He qualifies us for CL and stays, perhaps wins a Carling Cup trophy along the way.I fully believe that if given time and money, he can build a great team playing attacking football that our favorite Russian has been wanting so long, but for that, he needs to avoid the merciless Roman axe that many have fallen to, including the world greats like Jose, Scolari and Ancelotti.I really hope it's option 2 He has my support, even if we miss out CL.he has my support for the next 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Vinnie jones compared the situation of AVB at Chelsea to that of Fergie at Man uTd when he frat came in. And I absolutely agree with that. Vinnie Jones also mentioned that JT should move on if AVB has to stamp his authority. And I do beleive that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Vinnie Jones also mentioned that JT should move on if AVB has to stamp his authority. And I do beleive that.....are you serious?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 ....are you serious?!Yes..I am not saying he is past it. He had a tussle with Mou according to Maka and according to him Terry did play a role in Mou sacking. He never retracted that statement.Terry and couple of players complained against Scolari and got him sacked.He even tried to lead a coup during the world cup. Wasn't exactly a coup but the way he took on Capello in the media was something. It made me proud to have a player like that but you got to ask youdelf? Can someone as powerful as JT harm his own club? And the answer is yea. If he can do that to Capello and scolari he can definitely do it to AVB. In a tussle betn a player and manager the manager always must end up as a winner if not then something is seriously wrong at Chelsea and is what is holding back from moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Yes..How on earth does Terry hinder André's authority on the squad?Questioning his performance I can live with. To suggest he should move on from the club is the most absurd claim I've ever heard. And people complain players don't have any loyalty and here we see people wanting one of the most loyal to move on.I'm completely blind-sided how you and Jones came to this conclusion. Please elaborate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 How on earth does Terry hinder André's authority on the squad?Questioning his performance I can live with. To suggest he should move on from the club is the most absurd claim I've ever heard. And people complain players don't have any loyalty and here we see people wanting one of the most loyal to move on.I'm completely blind-sided how you and Jones came to this conclusion. Please elaborate..We have had examples in the past read my previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Being loyal has nothing to do with this. David Beckham was loyal but was shown the door. You can't fuck around with the manager. And that is one reason why Alex Fergie is successful while at our club the owner listens to the Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 You wanted attacking football, you got attacking football. But after a few defeats most of you start questioning every detail of the attack-minded tactic.I'm not even quite sure we have attacking football tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Being loyal has nothing to do with this. David Beckham was loyal but was shown the door. You can't fuck around with the manager. And that is one reason why Alex Fergie is successful while at our club the owner listens to the Terry.I'm not advocating kicking JT out of the club but there seem to be those who think he's untouchable because he's a club legend. Keane was a United legend and a leader on the pitch. Everybody at the club knew it. Yet when he crossed the line Fergie quickly gave him the boot. The man on the sideline needs to be in charge and the players need to know that. At Chelsea that does not seem to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'm not advocating kicking JT out of the club but there seem to be those who think he's untouchable because he's a club legend. Keane was a United legend and a leader on the pitch. Everybody at the club knew it. Yet when he crossed the line Fergie quickly gave him the boot. The man on the sideline needs to be in charge and the players need to know that. At Chelsea that does not seem to be the case.Absolutely what I am trying to say. Sir Alex always had problems with David Beckhams off field fancy lifestyle and even had issues with him marryig a pop star and that is why he let him move on to Madrid. Yes getting hit by the boot also played a part but he was already on his way out..Similarly JTs off field issues are derailig our title challenge almost every year. I won't hold him guilty just yet for being racist but he attracts negative media attention almost every season which affects the team. Also JT and alot of people around at the club give the impression that he is untouchable. And going by past events I have no doubt that that's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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