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How exactly has he tweeked it though ? That's like saying Avram Grant tweeked TSO's team to get us to the CL FInal in 2008 .....and for the record, I did say 10-15 years minimum. Scolari, Ancelotti and AVB were all brought in to change how we played. When they failed with the open exciting football Roman wanted to see, we went back to what we know best which is basically defend and hit on the break. This way of playing had brought us so much success over the last decade. PG will be asked to create at Chelsea what everyone sees at Barcelona. When he tries to get us playing that way and it goes tits up like every other manager before him Roman will not hesitate to get shafted of him PG will just be another manager to add to the "tried and failed" list in Romans litle black book. If he does come I'll wish him all the best, but I know that I'll be back on here saying I told you so when he gets his P45.

Wow, You don't do sarcasm do you...... He's been working with a group of players who have grown up together playing the same way for years. He was part of the system and knows the set up which is why he settled into the job so easily. It would be like JT becoming manager of Chelsea. He knows what makes us tick. Barca have been developing that style of play for 10-15 years minimum with their current squad from youth level. That's why their youth team players can come in and slot straight into the 1st team without disrupting their rhythm. If people expect him to walk straight in and change things overnight they are very foolish. How many managers have we brought in to do this only to see them turfed out on their ear when there is no immediate transformation ? Roman wants a more attractive style of football. That's fair enough, but he doesn't have the patience to let someone do it over a sustained period. Therefore, it's a waste of time and money to bring him here.

It's a no for me.......I could manage that Barcelona side ffs and win a few trophies. I'd rather he tested himself elsewhere to prove he has what it takes before we splash out mega wages only to sack him in several months when it doesn't go to plan.

I thought we were getting away from these insane wages ?

Sorry......I just don't rate him.

Before the introduction of Skys money into the EPL both Rangers and Celtic were easily on par with most English sides and held their own. This is when English sides were banned from europe, Both Rangers and Celtic were attracting top players from around europe and could match English sides in the transfer market. Sky has given the EPL the opportunity to increase their profile due to the vast amounts of money pumped into the game compared to that in Scotland. SPL winners get £2.55m(Prize money+ TV deal) compared to the EPL winners who get £60m+......that's just bonkers. The bottom side in the EPL gets around £40m just for being relegated. If both Rangers and Celtic had that sort of money at their disposal for a few seasons, I've no doubt that both would be challenging for a european spot at least. I hate Celtic more than anything in life, but I'll not go into that now....... Anywho......As long as there's a Scottish League, both clubs will remain there. The only reason Welsh clubs play in England is due to there not being a Welsh league when these clubs were formed.

I see nothing in him that suggests he's worth the transfer fee that's being flung about. £30m....really ?

I may be in the minority, but any time I've watched Hulk he's looked anything other than impressive. I'd rather we looked elsewhere.

Kezman had a better record than Van Horseface when we signed him and we all know how that turned out. I'll admmit I'm very excited by the prospect of Hazard joing our ranks. Oh.......Hello again

One other thing I forgot to mention, it was not how we dealt in the past that has brought us to administration (EBT's / HMRC Tax Case), it was Craig Whyte not paying VAT, NI Contributions on player wages and basic bills a club has to pay since his takeover. He forced the administration by doing this. The HMRC hearing had no bearing on it whatsoever. Other latest news is that lawyer Gary Withey who was an advisor to Craig Whyte during his takeover has quit his job at Collyer Bristow "for family reasons"....Aye right.......Rangers fans have been bombarding Collyer Bristow for weeks demanding to know where the ST money has gone. Withey has been in hiding for the past 2 weeks. His firm were used by Whyte to transfer the £24.4m Ticketus money (3-4 years Season Ticket Sales) to when Whyte took over the club. Rangers may not have to foot the bill as a legal expert claims Whyte needed the authorisation of every season ticket holder to sell their tickets which he did not obtain. Therefore Whyte will be left with the bill. This clown (Withey) was paid a handsome fee believed to be £230k, which was funded by the sale of Shares Rangers had in Arsenal dating back to 1910. A bit of history sold off by Craig Whyte which has infuriated fans.

I must have missed this earlier. *Clears throat* Blow it out your arse.....Your not talking about some diddy club here. Rangers have a history and tradition most clubs would dream of, so to consider making them a "feeder club" due to their current plight is something I take great offence to.

Cheers for the thought Tbh, I'm fucking gutted. Trying to understand what the hell has happened the last lot of weeks has been doing my nut in. I was one of a few who were hoping Craig Whyte had a plan and that all of this was a very bad dream. In the end it turned out he did have a plan and royally fucked us over. There's bena glimmer of light today, Paul Murray (and the Blue Knights - consortium) may be on the brink of a deal with the administrators. Players cuts were expected to be announced today as Rangers need to cover a £1m loss per month, but that has been put off for 4 weeks. Rangers have to come out of administration by 31st March to be able to compete in europe next year. Paul Murray has said that he wishes for no player cuts if he were to put in a bid as a player cull would mean him having to pump more money into the club to increase the playing staff and thus rule him out of a proposed deal. So perhaps this is a sign that he's going to step in and follow up on his interest. Players have already said they would play for nothing and McCoist has stated he'd happily work unpaid if it helps out. To show the sort of fans Rangers have they had proposed to take in a game Dunfermline v St Mirren to help out Dunfermline who were owed £83k by Rangers due to Craig Whyte flaffing about with our finances. Dunfermline are in trouble themselves and badly needed the money, so the Rangers fans were hoping to sell out their stadium as a gesture of goodwill on their behalf. Today the £83k has been paid, so I'm not certain if the plan to go to the game will go ahead or not now.

He should have been binned months ago. I remember one game at home against a diddy side he played 2 defensive midfielders and we created the squared root of hee haw. His decisions baffled me at times. I wish him all the best in whatever he does next.

lol The Gers are my first love, Chelsea came along 20 odd years ago. Do you post on any Rangers forums ? I hover around FF but don't post much as it's mental trying to keep up half the time. I'd post more on Gers Forum....it's a wee bit more relaxed.

Welcome fellow Bear.......the "Hello Hello" caught my eye

For what.........singing "you know what you are ?" Hold on, here comes the thought police. As far as I'm concerned the fans did nothing wrong. Considering the Chelsea support is multicultural, I doubt for one second that they would resort to racist chanting which they didn't. Let's get this clear.........It's open to interpretation. If people(media) want to interpret that it was intended to be racist then it obvious we have a clear agenda from the media whores who are looking for any opportunity to stick the boot into our club. I haven't kept up to date of what has went on with this "slur", but from what I've grabbed in fleeting minutes online Anton denied nothing was said, then his club mates said something was said, Anton then decided something was said and put in a statement apparently claiming to have been racially abused by JT. So do you actually know what happened Anton or is your club/team mates putting words into your mouth ? Anton Ferdinand, I know what you are........you're a fuckling idiot

What has Rio been flapping his gums about ?

Anton has handed in a statement to the FA apparently..........

Just watched the goals back for the first time on Goals on Sunday. Every single one of the goals we conceded could have been avoided. 1st goal - Gervinho who layed the ball off Van Persie to score walked away from Mikel who has switched off. Ivanovic was ball watching and let Gervinho go between him and Terry to lay it on a plate for Van Persie. 2nd goal - Everyone had got sucked in field toward the play, Bosingwa was miles out of position and Santos moved forward. Sturridge should have been staying with him to cover for Bosingwa, but he let him go and could have at least out a last ditch tackle in to stop the shot on goal. He actually stopped running seconds before the shot was taken. 3rd goal - Walcott trips over thin air in front of 4 Chelsea players.....FOUR CHELSEA PLAYERS.....who immediately switched off (Mikel, Ash, JT and Ivanovic). Walcott gets back on his feet and runs through them as if they weren't there......bingo.....goal. 4th goal - Malouda.......What a stupid ball. 5th goal - Arsenal on the break, Bosingwa was in a good position at first, but once the ball went to Van Persie he sprinted toward him and like Sturridge for the 2nd goal, he stopped running seconds before the shot was taken. Why ?......absolutely pathetic.

Any other day we'd have wiped the floor with them. The media are making a big deal out of Manure humping everyone in sight. That was a freak game that had quite a lot of major incidents go against us. We're nothing like Arsenal imo.......Our tactics were spot on, the stats show that.

Manure are notoriously slow starters in a league campaign. This will be something new for quite a few of their players. They have been used to chasing someone rather than looking over their shoulder. Now the shoes is on the other foot lets see how they manage. It's a whole different ball game keeping the momentum when you've no one to claw back.

I haven't read through the thread, but here's my take on things. The scoreline is very, very flattering to Manure. On another day we could have buried them had we taken our chances and their goals been chalked off for offside. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't let the media hype make you believe that they are this unstoppable machine because they aren't. We matched them all over the pitch and created a hell of a lot more clear cut chances than them. Smalling was offside when the free kick came in for their first, Nani was offside when the ball was crossed across the pitch to him before he ran on goal and their 3rd could have went anywhere. Fortunately for them, it dropped to the feet of the granny shagging fuck nugget to slot home. Apart from that they didn't really concern me. I'm overall pleased with how we played today. I saw plenty out there to make me believe we will be right up there come May. Don't let this defeat get you down as there is a very long way to go yet.

I tend to use this site. It has all streams available for each game from all the various site all in one place. It saves you going from one site to another looking for one that works. Just start at the top and work your way down. Wee buns http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

No no no no no no no no no no no no There's no way I want this horrible cretin anywhere near Stamford Bridge.

Torres is going to explode into life sooner or later. Why not on Sunday ? I'm really looking forward to this game. No one is talking about us.......it's all about Manure & Citeh. We're just quietly going about our business. I reckon we'll give them a right doing :cfc: