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27 minutes ago, zekinjo said:

Our club trying to make people believe CAS could extend our ban while Man City have filled an appeal to CAS in just 24 hours.. This club, Chelsea FC, has no owner.. 🤡 show left right and center.. 

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They are two completely different cases against two different footballing bodies.

 

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-The CAS has the task of resolving legal disputes in the field of sport through arbitration.

-Any disputes directly or indirectly linked to sport may be submitted to the CAS. 

-For disputes resulting from decisions taken by the internal bodies of sports organisations the appeals arbitration procedure is applicable.

-The party wishing to submit a dispute to the CAS must send the CAS Court Office a request for arbitration OR a statement of appeal.

-Once the arbitration request OR statement of appeal is filed, the respondent submits a reply to the CAS.

-The ordinary procedure lasts between 6 and 12 months BUT in urgent cases or upon request, the CAS may, within a very short time, order interim measures or suspend the execution of a decision appealed against.

-CAS can’t extend a ban imposed by FIFA or UEFA. We will either get it reduced, serve the ban or get it removed completely. 

 

UEFA or FIFA, one case or another it’s completely irrelevant

Man City can get punished seriously because they’re appealing before they’ve even been punished. But we’re good because we’re officially serving the ban if you ask FIFA.

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, zekinjo said:

-The CAS has the task of resolving legal disputes in the field of sport through arbitration.

-Any disputes directly or indirectly linked to sport may be submitted to the CAS. 

-For disputes resulting from decisions taken by the internal bodies of sports organisations the appeals arbitration procedure is applicable.

-The party wishing to submit a dispute to the CAS must send the CAS Court Office a request for arbitration OR a statement of appeal.

-Once the arbitration request OR statement of appeal is filed, the respondent submits a reply to the CAS.

-The ordinary procedure lasts between 6 and 12 months BUT in urgent cases or upon request, the CAS may, within a very short time, order interim measures or suspend the execution of a decision appealed against.

-CAS can’t extend a ban imposed by FIFA or UEFA. We will either get it reduced, serve the ban or get it removed completely. 

 

UEFA or FIFA, one case or another it’s completely irrelevant

Man City can get punished seriously because they’re appealing before they’ve even been punished. But we’re good because we’re officially serving the ban if you ask FIFA.

 

 

 

 

Of course each case is relevant to be treated separately. The circumstances and potential penalties over each are completely different and as frustrating as it is, all of us are simply speculating over our case. 

Are you sure about not being able to extend the ban, because if reports are true this is what is causing our stance on the ban (likely because we know ourselves that we're unlikely to be able to successfully argue). If that is true then I would agree it wouldn't make sense why we aren't more aggressive.

Also, there's no guarantees that City's appeal is going to be successful just because of the timing of their appeal and how quickly they've submitted it. There's been lots of rumours recently regarding Guardiola having a clause in his contract to walk if they're kicked out of Europe and these links with Juventus. The conspiracy theory in all of this could be that City are trying to delay the inevitable to also stop Guardiola getting poached, who knows?!

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4 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Exactly.....there is a reason we didnt go for a pro, someone that has been there and done that. Cech will be a sorta yes man.....I hope he knows what he is getting himself into, cuz there is no way Marina the model will give up power unless RA says so.

Cech is a smart man, he's not going to accept the role to become just a 'Yes' man and have no significant power of sorts at the club. I don't know what's the full scope of the role but one of the responsibilities that have been mentioned is becoming the link between the first team and board, 'bringing a more coherence to a decision-making structure that has appeared disjointed at times since Emenalo's departure, as well as reassuring disillusioned fans about the club's broader direction' (as reported on ESPN). Given the disconnect between the board and manager we have had in recent years, I would say this is most welcome, especially communicating with the fans bit - let us what's going on or what's their thinking on things, like what we normally see with clubs in other leagues rather than let stupid media rumors demoralize the club.

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12 minutes ago, Jason said:

Cech is a smart man, he's not going to accept the role to become just a 'Yes' man and have no significant power of sorts at the club. I don't know what's the full scope of the role but one of the responsibilities that have been mentioned is becoming the link between the first team and board, 'bringing a more coherence to a decision-making structure that has appeared disjointed at times since Emenalo's departure, as well as reassuring disillusioned fans about the club's broader direction' (as reported on ESPN). Given the disconnect between the board and manager we have had in recent years, I would say this is most welcome, especially communicating with the fans bit - let us what's going on or what's their thinking on things, like what we normally see with clubs in other leagues rather than let stupid media rumors demoralize the club.

I hope your right mate.....I just feel we should have gone for a more experienced DOF, there are few good ones about. We need know how and experience more than ever in that role. At the same time I think its a decent guess why we havent accuired one with the said abilities.....Marina wont have it in the long term and shit would stir up. I hope im wrong, time will tell.

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27 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I hope your right mate.....I just feel we should have gone for a more experienced DOF, there are few good ones about. We need know how and experience more than ever in that role. At the same time I think its a decent guess why we havent accuired one with the said abilities.....Marina wont have it in the long term and shit would stir up. I hope im wrong, time will tell.

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3 hours ago, zekinjo said:

Our club trying to make people believe CAS could extend our ban while Man City have filled an appeal to CAS in just 24 hours.. This club, Chelsea FC, has no owner.. 🤡 show left right and center.. 

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Maybe we don't want to Appeal..

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1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said:

Maybe we don't want to Appeal..

we didn't appeal in time

we had 21 days

May 29th

we need to accept our punishment for being a lawless board

its all on the crooked SIBNEFT puppets and their boss

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6 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

she did very well on the Hazard deal for it being a 1 year-left-on-contract deal

BUT she is far FAR FAR from off the hook overall, so so many more misses than hits

I will never be gaslit into saying she is brilliant

she was already in a pure power position when all the 2014 and onward rot took place, the horrific sales, the horrid buys, the utterly botched attempted buys, the fucking rule-breaking lawlessness that is flaying us alive atm (bans)

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

she did very well on the Hazard deal for it being a 1 year-left-on-contract deal

BUT she is far FAR FAR from off the hook overall, so so many more misses than hits

I will never be gaslit into saying she is brilliant

she was already in a pure power position when all the 2014 and onward rot took place, the horrific sales, the horrid buys, the utterly botched attempted buys, the fucking rule-breaking lawlessness that is flaying us alive atm (bans)

One thing you can't argue with is that she tried her best to back managers. 

The last example is the higuain situation. 

Sometimes it does not go through those deals but I do see she tries her best to work with the coach. 

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I blame board for the path this club went... We werr going to change with buying youth talent playera like Hazard, de broyne salah and etc but hiring Mourinho for second time destroyed that path and held back us for like 10 years and to reach this situatio... If in the place of Mourinho we had hired some modern coach with atacking vision i think atm we woudnt be in that mess... 

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

she did very well on the Hazard deal for it being a 1 year-left-on-contract deal

BUT she is far FAR FAR from off the hook overall, so so many more misses than hits

I will never be gaslit into saying she is brilliant

she was already in a pure power position when all the 2014 and onward rot took place, the horrific sales, the horrid buys, the utterly botched attempted buys, the fucking rule-breaking lawlessness that is flaying us alive atm (bans)

She's brilliant at selling but poor at buying new players. That's why we need football director to give us sense of direction in the transfer market and identify the right players and get the deals done for those players

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if we were a well run club rather than the worse run of the major European clubs this transfer ban wouldn`t have been a problem in way of preventing us as serious challengers. two windows is not long,but we have so much to change about our squad it is a huge problem and with so much great young talent at selling clubs ready to go.i`d say this transfer window has the most talent available in it for many years,perhaps since transfer windows began...but we are out of it because of the way we allegedly run our buy kids-to loan the shit out of-to then sell for a profit rather than playing for us policy. from a playing stand point we didn`t even gain from what we are being punished for.

 

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Really pissed seeing how many academy players are leaving on frees. It looks like they come here (Juan Familia-Castillo admitted this) just to get the superior training against the best youth, then bail and go to other teams to get playing time. I think it is like 8 who are leaving this summer on wound-down contracts. Bulka is going to PSG, Taylor-Crossdale is going to Hoffenheim, etc etc.

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Really pissed seeing how many academy players are leaving on frees. It looks like they come here (Juan Familia-Castillo admitted this) just to get the superior training against the best youth, then bail and go to other teams to get playing time. I think it is like 8 who are leaving this summer on wound-down contracts. Bulka is going to PSG, Taylor-Crossdale is going to Hoffenheim, etc etc.

Well its a 2 way street. We literally human trafficked some of these kids for almost a decade. Its almost poetic justice that they and (FIFA) get their revenge. 

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1 hour ago, 1905didierblue said:

Well its a 2 way street. We literally human trafficked some of these kids for almost a decade. Its almost poetic justice that they and (FIFA) get their revenge. 

To a point I agree, but take Taylor-Crossdale for instance. London born, been with us since age 8. 43 goals from 2016 to 2018 at junior level. Now off to Germany. The 2 that piss me off even more are Bulka and Juan Familio-Castillo, a great young LB who we could have loaned out to Vitesse (he is Dutch, an Ajax product) or Rangers, or even some Ligue 1 squad for a couple years and perhaps ended up with a diamond.

 

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25 minutes ago, Vesper said:

To a point I agree, but take Taylor-Crossdale for instance. London born, been with us since age 8. 43 goals from 2016 to 2018 at junior level. Now off to Germany. The 2 that piss me off even more are Bulka and Juan Familio-Castillo, a great young LB who we could have loaned out to Vitesse (he is Dutch, an Ajax product) or Rangers, or even some Ligue 1 squad for a couple years and perhaps ended up with a diamond.

 

If you were in their position, would you take a chance with your career? How many of ajax's current team were beaten by our u-19 team in the uefa youth league? Why is it that those kids are playing semi-finals of a CL while our youth players are no where to be seen. Its definitely NOT due to lack of talent but simply due to a lack of a system in place. 

I cant help laughing when people say, "How many of our youth players have gone on to make it big", its indicative of how ignorant they are of what it takes to make a youth product shine. It takes a system, patience and most importantly TRUST. All of these 3 things wont be found in this club. instead we have created a bloody human trafficking system. Look at pedro, he looked like a world beater in Barca's "SYSTEM" and yet looks like a bang average player for us. WHY? cause since he was a kid, he had played a certain way, he was thought a certain style and he can implement it perfectly. Here, we send our youth players from one club to another without actual regards to the style of play, to what chemistry and that untold link between players can do for the team (xavi and iniesta)

If the youth players are leaving now, we need to correct that by showing the coming talented bunch that there is a definitive way to success while playing for this club. We need to correct the feeling that the players may have among themselves that they are just a way for the club to get around FFP, that their talent actually matters and that they would be judged on merit rather than transfer fee or age. Unless all of this happens, youth players will continue to leave and I for one wont hold it against them. 

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