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DavidEU

21. Nemanja Matic

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Have no idea what his contribution to the team is anymore. Needs to be shipped off in the summer

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Had half a good season in his entire CFC career then peaked. Was never the same again. Just disposable garbage these days. Shouldn't even be a squad player. 

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Apparently, I am still a clown for not understanding football. Oh, the irony. 

 

Garbage player. We were awful yesterday and nothing clicked. But NOTHING gets to me as much as this guy and Costa. Missplaced passes, zero presence in midfield, awful positioning. Tell me exactly WHAT does he contribute with? I don't know. 

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On 16.4.2017 at 7:56 PM, Beigl said:

Just to think that a few guys on here think that Matic is better than Nainggolan is just mind boggling.

Nainggolan cannot even clean Matic's Shoes ...  Much less replace him adequately on a Football Pitch.

Funny guys here, who dont see the full Picture in a Match but judge by single Stats like the Nono up there .. who thinks that 0 Blocks and Clearances tell something about a Players performance.

Matic has got Presence ... he is like Zinedine Zidane ... he makes other Players around him better just by stepping on the pitch and providing security and stability.
TBS .. There are no perfect Teams .. and certainly no perfect Players ... sometimes Things go down the Drain and you lose, so I don't even wanna start about David Luiz's Positional Un-Awarness and Incompetence ore Kante's lovely giveaway of the Ball right before their 2nd Goal .. That's Football ... Heads up 4 the next Match.

BTW, Manchester United is one of the Teams who mercenaried its Status up by putting Trillions of $$$ into new Players. So let them win once in a while, who cares.

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9 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Did you just compare Matic to Zidane? I actually don't know what to say. Must be a troll?

I dont even wanna start this Discussion again, but I'll say it once more ..

Technically and measured by pure Skill, Zidane is one of the most overrated (if not the most overrated) Player in History. Couldnt do Shit on his own, if a medicre to good Player had him on the Radar (Juventus - Dortmund 1997 comes to mind).

He needed Trillion Dollar Squads around him to win the Champions League at least once. And even that one Time happened against a desolate Leverkusen Team.

TBS, the Guy had Charisma and Presence, just like Matic ... Matic however has Vision and Technical Skill on top of that.

If I had to assemble a Squad, I'd choose Matic over Players like Zidane and Fabregas anytime anyday.

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Cool. Looks like we're polar opposites then when it comes to what we look for in players. If you think Matic has charisma and presence on the field then I don't think it's worth having a discussion tbh. 

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On 3/22/2015 at 11:38 AM, TheWiz said:

I dont even understand some of your Logic.

Could you please explain me, how exactly Matic is supposed to (situationally) build up forward play / Counter Attacks ... while at the same Time he's got to shield our Defense Line? Maybe we should just cut him in half ;-)

Hes not perfect, but lets be honest - neither Fabregas nor Ramires are reliable when it comes to covering fore him, while he's going forward.

It appears to me like a huge Tactical Leak.

He's not trolling 

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1 hour ago, TheWiz said:

I dont even wanna start this Discussion again, but I'll say it once more ..

Technically and measured by pure Skill, Zidane is one of the most overrated (if not the most overrated) Player in History. Couldnt do Shit on his own, if a medicre to good Player had him on the Radar (Juventus - Dortmund 1997 comes to mind).

He needed Trillion Dollar Squads around him to win the Champions League at least once. And even that one Time happened against a desolate Leverkusen Team.

TBS, the Guy had Charisma and Presence, just like Matic ... Matic however has Vision and Technical Skill on top of that.

If I had to assemble a Squad, I'd choose Matic over Players like Zidane and Fabregas anytime anyday.

Wtf? I know different opinions and all that, but wow. :o

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We've to a point in our evolution as a squad that half of the players are good/very good, and the other half are complete liabilities.

Matic certainly belongs to the latter category. I've asked the question for ages, what does Matic genuinely offer? Going forward, his inability to use his right foot or cope under pressure with a decisive touch, a swift turn, and an accurate and wisely decided pass, -the qualities we expect from a dynamic midfielder partnering Kante- have been completely crippling a lot of our transitions from defence to attack, or attack in general. 

Defensively, he's one of our most overrated players. Too many times he tends to help his CBs or Alonso needlessly, hence leaving gaps in midfield for the Eriksens and the Herreras to cross or shoot. He's bang average at reading the play and intercepting chances, too often he chases and doesn't read well enough. For a player of his size, he doesn't possess the expected body strength and doesn't assert himself over opposition players. 

All of this leads me back to the point I made initially, there are too many players in our squad at the moment that are not fit to play at the top level. Back in the 2000s, we had a lot of players who'd do the 'dogwork',  but the same players also offered a lot for us going forward. In our current period(particularly since Jose arrived) we have too many players that may tick the boxes for the former, but they offer absolutely nothing going forward. Recently this has turned us to a team that does nothing but sit back against big European clubs and hope for scraps upfront. In fact, the work Antonio has done with this technically limited squad-imo sixth best in the league-needs to be admired. In the summer we really need to invest in players all around the pitch that are a step above our current options in terms of technical ability.

P.s: Aside from Matic, Alonso and Cahill are two other examples. Speaking of Alonso, even though he offers much more end product to his game compared to Moses, at the same time he struggles much more against strong oppositions and we'll see more of this once we're in the champions league. Moses has the ability to turn quick and resist the press, Alonso doesn't. 

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Personally even if I dislike players like Matic I don't think if you change him and for example bring Veratti or Radja that everything's gonna be solved. Midfield doesn't concede goals. 

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35 minutes ago, zekinjo said:

Personally even if I dislike players like Matic I don't think if you change him and for example bring Veratti or Radja that everything's gonna be solved. Midfield doesn't concede goals. 

Well, it does if the midfielder is so easily pushes off the ball thus giving the oppositon a chance to counter attack and I've lost count how many times Matic does that now so, yep.

you would be jumping for joy if one of nainggolain's long shots hits the net, 30m long shot or crossing-header is perfect solutions for a bus parking team.

Oh and He's worse than fellaini, it's not even funny anymore.

verrati is a world class cm, one of the best now, what's more can I say?

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