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[Atomiswave 6,072]

1 minute ago, 11Drogba said:

But is it protected by law?

Not as far as I know. Iran is not an Arab nation. And the regime can pass whatever they want, it does not mean people will act and do as they say.

[11Drogba 2,000]

7 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Not as far as I know. Iran is not an Arab nation. And the regime can pass whatever they want, it does not mean people will act and do as they say.

So you don't exactly know the situation for example in rural places where support for the current regime is high.

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

Iran doesn't forget that its democratically elected government was deposed by the US and UK, and replaced with a US friendly 'Shah' for oil. How dare the Iranians keep their own oil !! So they had a revolution in 1979 and the 'Shah' had to seek refuge in the US. There was the 'Museum of Arrogance' in Tehran -everything in there was US stuff 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

1 hour ago, 11Drogba said:

So you don't exactly know the situation for example in rural places where support for the current regime is high.

The regime has the backing of the people if war is looming. Iran always is United in these times no matter what, we take care of the inside issues at our pace, outside issues always in 1 voice. The regime wont last another 4 decades, 1 big revolution and they are gone.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

So after the Trump speech it looks like no more will come out of this, I'll take that anyday.

[Fernando 6,375]

Yes I think Iran was also smart. 

They did attack but made it so no casualty happens, as they don't want a war right now. 

Now the last problem remains, if Iran does go ahead full speed with the nuclear weapons?

If they are smart again they will wait till Trump and Netanyahu are out of the view....

[Atomiswave 6,072]

8 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yes I think Iran was also smart. 

They did attack but made it so no casualty happens, as they don't want a war right now. 

Now the last problem remains, if Iran does go ahead full speed with the nuclear weapons?

If they are smart again they will wait till Trump and Netanyahu are out of the view....

YEs I think it was a warning to not do this again or this time full scale war is coming. That they will bite back and can bite back. Iran will of course go nuclear now unless they all sit down like human beings and figure some kind of pact. Lift the sanctions and Peace will come. Iran has been more than willing to adhere but Trump threw it to the wind and here we are.

[Fernando 6,375]

9 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

YEs I think it was a warning to not do this again or this time full scale war is coming. That they will bite back and can bite back. Iran will of course go nuclear now unless they all sit down like human beings and figure some kind of pact. Lift the sanctions and Peace will come. Iran has been more than willing to adhere but Trump threw it to the wind and here we are.

Apparently not going to happen, the sanctions more incoming:

US knew Iranian missiles were coming ahead of strike; Trump announces new sanctions

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/01/08/us-officials-warned-missile-launch-iraq-bases-troops/2842200001/

 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

22 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Apparently not going to happen:

US knew Iranian missiles were coming ahead of strike; Trump announces new sanctions

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/01/08/us-officials-warned-missile-launch-iraq-bases-troops/2842200001/

 

Of course they knew and expected it, foolish otherwise. But intercepting them is another ball game. Iran also developed hypersonic missiles, there are videos of it if you search, those will be even harder to stop. Yup I heard he said new sanctions. Who is he since he decides whom gets sanctioned? When will US get sanctioned for ll the lives they have ruined through false flags and bogus wars? Both sides are fucking crazy.

Despite Trumps claims of "Defence mechanism" THAAD and Patriot failed to stop a single missile, all targets got hit.

i see most "US Hawks" call Trumps reaction (his speech calling now for diplomacy with Iran) after strike on its Military Base "weak"    (allowed iran to ballistic missile strike US military bases)


US ahead 1 general but Soleimani had very high US kill count  (thousands of US troops according TRUMP) 

Trump now offers all those deaths forgotten for the price of soleimani.

in his statement he called for "Partnership and diplomacy with the Iranian leaders" 

its clear he wants now a new start which is very good

[manpe 10,855]

Iran acted smartly, and now both nations seem to have taken a step back and calmed down. Seems there will not be a full on war which is great news.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

15 hours ago, manpe said:

Iran acted smartly, and now both nations seem to have taken a step back and calmed down. Seems there will not be a full on war which is great news.

Very good indeed, nothing but misery and contempt war.

[NikkiCFC 7,566]

On 08/01/2020 at 11:43 AM, Vesper said:

Boeing 737 plane bound for Kyiv crashes minutes after takeoff in Iran, killing all 180 on board

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/boeing-737-passenger-plane-crashes-in-iran-state-news-agencies-report.html

And Trudeau just said they have a proof Iranian missile took plane down 

[NikkiCFC 7,566]

What a revenge by Iran that was! First many died in stampede on funeral and now they killed their own citizens on the Ukrainian plane 

[Vesper 27,283]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

What a revenge by Iran that was! First many died in stampede on funeral and now they killed their own citizens on the Ukrainian plane 

yes, they are saying it was unintentional though

still a horrid tragedy 

remember the US shot an Iranian passenger jet down years ago

 

Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. Wikipedia

 

Date: July 3, 1988
Fatalities: 290
Survivor: 0
Operator: Iran Air
Locations: Iran, Strait of Hormuz

 

 

 

 

[manpe 10,855]

What a clusterfuck  They probably had their defenses on high alert after the attacks on US bases and it caused this mistake, is my theory. No way would they be stupid enough to do this deliberately I hope.

 

 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

yes, they are saying it was unintentional though

still a horrid tragedy 

remember the US shot an Iranian passenger jet down years ago

 

Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. Wikipedia

 

Date: July 3, 1988
Fatalities: 290
Survivor: 0
Operator: Iran Air
Locations: Iran, Strait of Hormuz

 

 

 

 

And the US afterwards paid homage to those shooting the plane down. They got shiny new emblems etc, no regrets at all.

I still have have doubt a rocket took the plane down in Iran, but you never know. Lets see what the blackbox reveals. But so so sad nonetheless, so avoidable.

Trump played the almighty Card promising revenge if even 1 base was touched, Iran burned them up and now he wants diplomacy anf figuring something out.......why not this to begin with then?

Tehy even gave the Iraqi's a heads.up that the attack was coming, cuz they respect their sovereignty.......thank god no more happened and RIP to those in the plane.

[Vesper 27,283]

 

Iran admits shooting down Ukrainian airliner 'unintentionally'

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally

 

[manpe 10,855]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Iran admits shooting down Ukrainian airliner 'unintentionally'

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally

 

 

Lol @ still blaming USA for this. This retaliation campaign has been nothing but disastrous for Iran's global image, reinforcing their fame as terror state with the funeral stampede and downing a civilian plane. Horror show.