Madmax 9,219 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm all for the move, whether in 2020 or before - if you support the ideal that we need financial stability in the future, you would be as well - but my only worry presently is whether we'd be able to fill a 60k seater every week. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 As one report says having a capacity stadium of 60,000 instead of 42,000 will bring in an additional £50m approx per annum.With a brand new stadium and expansive brand we will also be in a more powerful position with sponsorships, especially naming rights to a new stadium. This could well be anything between another £10-20m per annum. Suddenly we'll be in a position where we are pretty much in a break even position which is vital with the financial fair play rules. (particularly as debt and expenditure attributable to improving the club's infrastructure such as stadium, training ground, etc is not included in the financial fair play rules).Not to mention the likelihood of being able to host events, in particular the Champions League final!I can understand fan's wanting to keep with tradition, but it is necessary for the club to expand. I am positively certain that they will go ahead with such moves with a lot of dignity and consideration for the fans. Roman Abramovich has done so much for this football club and the final piece of the jigsaw is a state of the art new stadium. Let's look forward not think backwards.In terms of a stadium look, I must say I love the outside design of the Allianz Arena - it just stands out so well within it's community which is what we should be aiming for, although I would also like the fans to be as close as possible to the pitch. Madmax and Term-X 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not to mention the likelihood of being able to host events, in particular the Champions League final!There is Wembley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 There is Wembley.There isn't just one ground per country which can host Champions League and Europa League finals, otherwise you would miss out on a ton of good stadiums. If we build a state of the art, iconic stadium in the region of 60,000 capacity do you think we are going to get turned away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Its being reported (probably intentionally leaked) that the club have explored the option of starting again at our current location from scratch, and turning the pitch through 90 degrees , still doesnt sort out the egress problems which are the fundamental problem with where we are.I think that is very unlikely. Where would we play and fit a suitable number of supporters while the building work is taking place?The railways behind the East and MH stands would still be thereThere would still only be 1 exit onto Fulham RoadThe Shed and MH would need to be completely rebuilt to contain player facilities, executive boxes etc. that you find on a length ways standwould the stadium really be much bigger for millions of pounds of rebuilding on the same site. The whole area in which we are located is not a square and however hard I try I cannot see how the stadium would be bigger if we turned it 90 degrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 There is Wembley.Wembley can only hold around 20 events per year or something due to some restrictions. It is too far away from the Bridge too, and the seats are red! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I think that is very unlikely.Where would we play and fit a suitable number of supporters while the building work is taking place?The railways behind the East and MH stands would still be thereThere would still only be 1 exit onto Fulham RoadThe Shed and MH would need to be completely rebuilt to contain player facilities, executive boxes etc. that you find on a length ways standwould the stadium really be much bigger for millions of pounds of rebuilding on the same site. The whole area in which we are located is not a square and however hard I try I cannot see how the stadium would be bigger if we turned it 90 degreesI wasnt suggesting it merely saying that apparently the club have explored that option and it isnt viable as like you said for all those reasons and more. Liquidator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Liquidator 5,176 Posted October 4, 2011 Popular Post! Share Posted October 4, 2011 A new stadium is a must have for chelsea, more fans, more reccetes, more money, thats what counts, the prices will come with the years in the stadium, for once think about the club instead of the stadium.If you knew about our beginnings as a football club you would realise that we were founded because of Stamford Bridge, not the other way around like every other club. Therefore we have a much stronger connection to our stadium than other teams Munky, middleoftheshed, Fulham Broadway and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If you knew about our beginnings as a football club you would realise that we were founded because of Stamford Bridge, not the other way around like every other club. Therefore we have a much stronger connection to our stadium than other teamsSpot on.Gooner comments''i hope for all your sakes you dont, unless your club gets half a dozen of you lot in on the planning for things..our club royally fucked everythng up, from the design,to moving ST holders, more lads in the pubs than ground these days. and we got less of the cheapER seats on sale match to match than when we was at Highbury..hate the place. i could type 100 reasons whats wrong with it...good luck ''i put his comments because hes respectable, and theres a definite corrolation between them moving and slipping down the pecking order. You need more than TV money and a rich benefactor -without the fans and atmosphere a club becomes a soulless shadow of its former self.if the move happens I just hope its given every consideration, and not just money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisey11zola25 142 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I don't actually care about any arguments for moving away from the Bridge. I will hold my single minded view...We have been there from the start. 1905-forever, it will be disgraceful if we allow our home to be torn down as we move to some untraditional modern replica of the Emirates...42,000 will do me fine and I'd rather miss out on a ticket through a sell out at the bridge than be guaranteed one at some concrete bowl stadium that is about as intimidating as arsenals back four...SAVE THE BRIDGE. I will feel betrayed by the club if we move from the Bridge in my lifetime.Get the point across in any way you can, only thing I can do online is try and make a point on social networksI don't care about people pressing follow on my twitter..just RT my tweet posted earlier saying the bridge is where we belong say no to the move! Let's trend that and hope someone gets the point, then I hope others will protest in person if any advanced talks begin, let's keep our home safe. @Lumo_5Chelsea without Stamford Bridge is like Fish without Chips...It's Wrong.King Osgood will be looking down hoping for us to keep his throne at the Home of Chelsea Football Club. BlueLion., Munky and Liquidator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not sure if it is entirely related, but AFL architects (who have worked with us to refurbish the East Stand and West stand) and designed Cobham training ground have also designed a stadium for an un named client. It looks like this:Not sure if the fact that they have worked so closely with us in the past could have anything to do with it. It could be our future stadium. They are fairly high profile as well, having worked with Manchester United, Rio 2016 Olympics and Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 doubt it would be us, has red on the outside for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 What happens to osgood's ashes that were burried in the pitch? Are they going to move that as well? Or build commercial complex on them?I would feel insulted if I were a member if Osgood Family Munky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Spot on.Gooner comments''i hope for all your sakes you dont, unless your club gets half a dozen of you lot in on the planning for things..our club royally fucked everythng up, from the design,to moving ST holders, more lads in the pubs than ground these days. and we got less of the cheapER seats on sale match to match than when we was at Highbury..hate the place. i could type 100 reasons whats wrong with it...good luck ''i put his comments because hes respectable, and theres a definite corrolation between them moving and slipping down the pecking order. You need more than TV money and a rich benefactor -without the fans and atmosphere a club becomes a soulless shadow of its former self.if the move happens I just hope its given every consideration, and not just moneyNo such thing as a respectable woolwich wanderer fan :blue scalf: arsenals decline is more down to wenger than it is to a ground move, he has failed to replace players when they have left with similar quality, he usually goes for a younger cheaper shitter option to keep in with his philosophy.I think even if we did move we would have the same atmosphere as we currently do, good but not great, its more down to the modern fan for the lack of noise, blame murdoch and sky for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 No such thing as a respectable woolwich wanderer fan :blue scalf: arsenals decline is more down to wenger than it is to a ground move, he has failed to replace players when they have left with similar quality, he usually goes for a younger cheaper shitter option to keep in with his philosophy.I think even if we did move we would have the same atmosphere as we currently do, good but not great, its more down to the modern fan for the lack of noise, blame murdoch and sky for that.Hes a decent sort whos been going since Kerry scored in front of the North bank The atmosphere is pretty shit now and it would get worse unless criteria were adhered to that no other club has done.ie The Fans Forum is consulted all the way along. Thats the most important.The Premier League was worth £302 m from tv at its inception they now get £3.2 bn, if clubs just rely on that they're foolish. There was a ruling today where pubs can show streams from Greek TV. So theres no guarantee that players can be bought for 40 50 m on the back of TV rights.Fans and atmosphere made these clubs, which is why you've Ahmed and Iqbal watching all round the World. Yer Romans and Glazers are just buying a brand, they shouldnt forget the roots of it. strong centreback 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2472458,00.htmlIf you watch this, they talk a lot about moving stadiums, not about the actual Chelsea Pitch Owners and the way Cundy talks it seems like he (a club insider who works daily with the club) seems more or less resigned to the fact that we are leaving. if the club were true to their word that they are not looking at another place to build a stadium then why would the interview be so focused about how we have enjoyed our last 106 years at the Bridge but we need to remain competitive?Come on Chelsea, just admit it, we know you are looking at alternative sites and may even already have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not sure if it is entirely related, but AFL architects (who have worked with us to refurbish the East Stand and West stand) and designed Cobham training ground have also designed a stadium for an un named client. It looks like this:Not sure if the fact that they have worked so closely with us in the past could have anything to do with it. It could be our future stadium. They are fairly high profile as well, having worked with Manchester United, Rio 2016 Olympics and LiverpoolFrom the outside that is the ugliest ground i've seen, inside looks nice though.In an ideal world there would be a way to expand the bridge. It'll be a very sad day if we do have to move from the bridge, it's a shame the way football is going, money dominates the game & we need a bigger stadium to compete with the other top clubs in the league. We are a massive club though and deserve to be playing in a bigger stadium, I just wish that could be a bigger Stamford Bridge. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabriccfc 21 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 That ground above would be an abomination. As someone said the interview with Cundy hints to me that the club may be looking to take action on this very soon. We all know we get things done very discreetly and quickly at Chelsea these days,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hes a decent sort whos been going since Kerry scored in front of the North bank The atmosphere is pretty shit now and it would get worse unless criteria were adhered to that no other club has done.ie The Fans Forum is consulted all the way along. Thats the most important.The Premier League was worth £302 m from tv at its inception they now get £3.2 bn, if clubs just rely on that they're foolish. There was a ruling today where pubs can show streams from Greek TV. So theres no guarantee that players can be bought for 40 50 m on the back of TV rights.Fans and atmosphere made these clubs, which is why you've Ahmed and Iqbal watching all round the World. Yer Romans and Glazers are just buying a brand, they shouldnt forget the roots of it.Definitely agree with you about getting the fans forum consulted on stadium design/ideas, they need fans ideas if/when they look to relocate so that the fans respond well to a new place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleoftheshed 388 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 That stadium posted is like a blue version of the emirates - my worst nightmare, horrible.This is what all CPO shareholders have been sent, interesting - http://www.chelseafc...,,10268,00.htmlWhat a shame in the next few years we could lose Stamford Bridge, Anfield, Goodison Park, White Hart Lane, Upton Park and possibly more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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