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36 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Theyve broken financial regulations within the rules of the governing bodies, thats why they are facing sanctions. Not sure what your point is.

The point is those financial rules exist to do what ?
To prevent tax evasion, money laundering, embezzling, what ?

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7 hours ago, cosmicway said:

The point is those financial rules exist to do what ?
To prevent tax evasion, money laundering, embezzling, what ?

. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club's financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:

(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.75 (amended to C.79 from 10 September 2009 for the remainder of Season 2009/10) and C.80;

(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;

(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, E.3, 4, E.11 and E.12;

(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;

(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules 15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;

(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;

(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;

(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and

(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, 3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.

2. In respect of:

(a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely:

(1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and

(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and

(b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely:

(1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20;

(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20;

(3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and

(4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20.

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA's regulations, including UEFA's Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:

(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and

(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.

4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:

(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and

(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.

5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:

(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;

(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;

(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;

(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16; and

(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16.

 
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United are an absolute disgrace, they really are. Fernandes is the biggest fucking cunt on two legs- Theatrics, screaming at officials, claiming for everything cannot stand watching them as a team and as a whole.

The crowd are just as bad, they literally rise to their feet for everything, disgraceful set of fans and players

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Man City set to erect NETTING around Liverpool fans when they next play at the Etihad to protect their supporters after a 15-year-old girl was 'scarred for life' by a pint cup filled with coins

But its never their fault, the girl deliberately headbutted the glass full of coins....

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21 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Rattclife officially making moves to buy Utd - we might have dodged the bullet here, as if he doesn't care what club he buys, it may mean he just want's a rich man toy  

He’s a Man United fan.

He has said countless times buying a PL club isn’t good value for money compared to other clubs in foreign leagues (fully agreed but I suppose if I was a multi multi billionaire I’d either want to be batman 😂 or own the football club I support in the ‘best league in the world’) but I would imagine his affiliation to United as a fan probably as well as scratching the itch of owning a PL club, something he’s wanted and tried to do already with Newcastle, us and Leeds (although whilst in the Championship IIRC), will make it happen.

The “its a rich mans toy” thing is throwaway comment because how often has that been said in the past and its never been accurate? With us when Roman took over, when City were bought by Sheikh Mansour, when PSG were bought by the Qatari’s , probably when we were bought over again etc.

These guys are passionate about achieving something with these clubs, which they will treat the same way as any other business undoubtedly and want it to be successful. Nobody who is rich enough buys a PL football club these days for the going prices purely to use it as a toy or a plaything. 

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58 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Rattclife officially making moves to buy Utd - we might have dodged the bullet here, as if he doesn't care what club he buys, it may mean he just want's a rich man toy  

He is going to need to take on a lot of debt to do it, so I am all for it.

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4 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

He is going to need to take on a lot of debt to do it, so I am all for it.

his net worth is around £12.8 billion

he has lost around half from his peak a few years back

and I am hearing they want £7 or 8 billion for Manure

he will need help, a lot of it

 

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I 'm trying to understand what is the real crime -or potential criminal activity- when M. City breaks those financial rules.
Let's take for example the case of the sponsorships. 
Qatar airlines paid them say 100 million, they declared 150 million.
What could be hidden behind this ? Tax evasion by somebody maybe ?
The same for the other types of breach.

Or if you don't like criminal activities, what breach of fair play ?


 

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31 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Radcliffe is backed by J P Morgan and Goldman Sachs 

Have a feeling this will go through-much to the relief of United fans -17 years of money syphoned out by the Glazer freaks has pissed them right off

I am only using one resource, but I am a little shocked at most people on Red Cafe want a middle east owner over Radcliffe. All those years of Moaning about Roman, Man City owners, and recently Newcastle, and now the true colors come out.

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2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I am only using one resource, but I am a little shocked at most people on Red Cafe want a middle east owner over Radcliffe. All those years of Moaning about Roman, Man City owners, and recently Newcastle, and now the true colors come out.

Yeah maybe they want the excessive spending that they envisage a Middle east consortium can give them -could backfire now though depending on what happens with Man City (probably nothing but a fine).

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16 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

depending on what happens with Man City (probably nothing but a fine).

If Citeh walk with just a fine

I can see us going Europe Super League

as we are near tapped out (limit, not money to buy with) due to FFP, and will be blocked from some moves we need and want

and yet Citeh, who lied, cheated, perjured, etc, and get no real punishment and can just keep on doing what they wish to

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13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

If Citeh walk with just a fine

I can see us going Europe Super League

as we are near tapped out (limit, not money to buy with) due to FFP, and will be blocked from some moves we need and want

and yet Citeh, who lied, cheated, perjured, etc, and get no real punishment and can just keep on doing what they wish to

Yes, can see the Premier League looking at this as a massive revenue raiser, they wont want to upset their middle east cash cows and billion pound TV revenue stream, and looking at how they can be a part of the $up£r L£agu£

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