The English Football Thread

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

damn Barca are so old now

7 of their 10 outfield players over 30, some well over

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Saul

They are done for, They are not fond of their manager either.

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udt  3 ahead......fernandes again

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Urghhhh stop now

[NikkiCFC 8,080]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

 Ouch!

I never heard about him either.

[NikkiCFC 8,080]

How many times have we heard that Wan Bissaka is horrible offensively? 

Guess what. He has 4 PL assists. Only Willian and Azpi have more in our squad (5).

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8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

How many times have we heard that Wan Bissaka is horrible offensively? 

Guess what. He has 4 PL assists. Only Willian and Azpi have more in our squad (5).

Well as you pointed out, Azpi has 5 assists but I don't think anyone is calling him brilliant offensively.

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8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

How many times have we heard that Wan Bissaka is horrible offensively? 

Guess what. He has 4 PL assists. Only Willian and Azpi have more in our squad (5).

I think a lot of that came from his being such a dominant defensive force that people wrote off his offence as it was not near that level

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I had totally forgotten Brandon Williams is right footed until a week ago or so

that is why I went back to listing LB as a need for Manure

there is no way you can win the big trophies in today's football with a out of position fullback

look at us when Azpi goes to LB

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Well as you pointed out, Azpi has 5 assists but I don't think anyone is calling him brilliant offensively.

Spot on. I've watched AWB plenty of times this season and he's been a donkey going forward. Looks almost like Kante when he's near the box when he's in possesion. Like he's not quite sure what the do with the ball.

Its a perfectly fine trade off for a player to be poor going forward as long as they're world class defensively. It's what Azpi has been for years. 

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3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I think a lot of that came from his being such a dominant defensive force that people wrote off his offence as it was not near that level

The funny thing is even United fans have been saying AWB isn't great going forward either. Not only us people. 

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

The funny thing is even United fans have been saying AWB isn't great going forward either. Not only us people. 

if they do not want him there they are welcome to trade him here for Emerson or Alonso, lolol

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Bruno Fernandes has been directly involved in eight goals in his first eight league games for Man Utd (five goals, three assists) 

Good signing for them so far..

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Just now, Laylabelle said:

Bruno Fernandes has been directly involved in eight goals in his first eight league games for Man Utd (five goals, three assists) 

Good signing for them so far..

game changing buy by them for once

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Fernandes hitting form worries me. Before his arrival ManUre couldnt tear down a low blok to save their lives. Now they do so with ease. And they still dont concede.

They had probably their best 11 playing today and it looked like they finally clicked. Pogba in a more subdued role makes sense cos he is actually not that good despite his hype and let the superior Fernandes run the show. I really hope they fuck up at least once but can not see it happening at the moment. We on the other hand still struggle to break down buses and are prone to concede. Really need that win tomorrow.

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9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Fernandes hitting form worries me. Before his arrival ManUre couldnt tear down a low blok to save their lives. Now they do so with ease. And they still dont concede.

They had probably their best 11 playing today and it looked like they finally clicked. Pogba in a more subdued role makes sense cos he is actually not that good despite his hype and let the superior Fernandes run the show. I really hope they fuck up at least once but can not see it happening at the moment. We on the other hand still struggle to break down buses and are prone to concede. Really need that win tomorrow.

15 games unbeaten in all. Know havent won all but still compared to where they were earlier

Plus building up goal difference. Know might not come down to that but there's Leicester on 30..Man U on 20..and us on 14. Wolves least on 11 but nice to have that built up incase.

Hopefully can win tommrow..big would be better.

 

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Just now, Laylabelle said:

15 games unbeaten in all. Know havent won all but still compared to where they were earlier

Plus building up goal difference. Know might not come down to that but there's Leicester on 30..Man U on 20..and us on 14. Wolves least on 11 but nice to have that built up incase.

Hopefully can win tommrow..big would be better.

 

I dont think we will win big with our current strikeforce. From the chances created we could have scored 100 goals or more this season. I hope it will change with Werner. Maybe it is the tempo but even good finishers like Batshit turn to j-league players as soon as they get presented by a chance in our setup.

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4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I dont think we will win big with our current strikeforce. From the chances created we could have scored 100 goals or more this season. I hope it will change with Werner. Maybe it is the tempo but even good finishers like Batshit turn to j-league players as soon as they get presented by a chance in our setup.

True has been frustrating to watch all that build up and end up anywhere but on target.

Though guess long as win tommrow all good..anything less then oh...

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52 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

How many times have we heard that Wan Bissaka is horrible offensively? 

Guess what. He has 4 PL assists. Only Willian and Azpi have more in our squad (5).

His "assist" tonight shows exactly why that stat is misleading, he passed it on a few yards and Greenwood did the rest, whereas not long before that Lamptey made a clever beautiful timed low cross into the box but was denied an assist due to the forward not trapping the ball propely. Reminds me of 16/17 when Matic got a clutch of assist's by being the one that made 2 yard passes to Hazard before many of his wonder goals.

Ultimately you're relying on someone else to do their job to get an assist, even if you make the best pass of all time, it's still out of your hands. Key passes and dribbles are better metrics to judge creativity.