Madmax 9,219 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 You know what's crazy?Courtois, Terry, Azpi, Matic, Fabregas, Hazard and Costa are all top candidates for a spot in the PL team of the year. Terry, Azpi, Matic, Fabregas and Hazard would even make most people's team of the year.The only top candidate and red hot favourite at City is Aguero. The likes of Hart, Kompany, Toure, Nasri aren't at their best and Silva has been in and out of games because of injury.Chelsea and City have the same amount of points. How is that possible?3 things in the main for me - better quality off the bench, easier fixtures and some refereeing decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Or schedule has been incredibly difficult, we have played more away games than any other pl teamI just checked. Chelsea have played 11 away games, City 10. Chelsea 19 points, City 23 points.City do have the far tougher away game schedule though. West Ham and Arsenal are the most tricky for Chels. City have to go to Everton, Chelsea, Stoke, Liverpool, Man Utd and Tottenham.So that definitely makes things more difficult for them. Our team hasn't exactly been performing away from home though. Need to step it up. 6 W from the last 8 away games should be possible. 5 W at the least, with max 1 L. I wonder how long the perfect home run will continue. Blue-in-me-Veins and RoyalBlues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I just checked. Chelsea have played 11 away games, City 10. Chelsea 19 points, City 23 points.City do have the far tougher away game schedule though. West Ham and Arsenal are the most tricky for Chels. City have to go to Everton, Chelsea, Stoke, Liverpool, Man Utd and Tottenham.So that definitely makes things more difficult for them. Our team hasn't exactly been performing away from home though. Need to step it up. 6 W from the last 8 away games should be possible. 5 W at the least, with max 1 L. I wonder how long the perfect home run will continue.Honestly, on current form, I wouldn't even classify the Everton, Liverpool and Tottenham games being tough for City. Everton have been poor this season. Liverpool are still unpredictable. And Tottenham have been absolutely rubbish in recent games against City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 3 things in the main for me - better quality off the bench, easier fixtures and some refereeing decisions.Do they really have the better bench? They have better options at RB, more options at CB but the rest? Fernando/Fernandinho, Lampard, Milner, Navas/Nasri, Dzeko and Jovetic vs. Mikel, Ramires, Schurrle, Salah, Drogba, Remy? It's not that much better. I'd say they rotated better (also because of injuries). They seem more in tune when they play.Easier fixtures, yes. I didn't check the schedule. That definitely plays a part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Honestly, on current form, I wouldn't even classify the Everton, Liverpool and Tottenham games being tough for City. Everton have been poor this season. Liverpool are still unpredictable. And Tottenham have been absolutely rubbish in recent games against City.Yeah, I can see them win at Everton. Liverpool could surprise. Most likely not, but still. Tottenham are usually rubbish against Chelsea! Bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Yeah, I can see them win at Everton. Liverpool could surprise. Most likely not, but still. Tottenham are usually rubbish against Chelsea! Bastards. TBF, they haven't been that bad against us at WHL in recent years. Suffered only 1 league defeat since the 05/06 season. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Do they really have the better bench? They have better options at RB, more options at CB but the rest? Fernando/Fernandinho, Lampard, Milner, Navas/Nasri, Dzeko and Jovetic vs. Mikel, Ramires, Schurrle, Salah, Drogba, Remy? It's not that much better. I'd say they rotated better (also because of injuries). They seem more in tune when they play.Easier fixtures, yes. I didn't check the schedule. That definitely plays a part.Yes, for me. It's not even a debate IMO, as their points and results show. They've rotated better not just out of necessity but also because they can afford to trust the bench. Do Chelsea get anywhere near their points haul without Costa, Terry, Hazard and Matic for parts of the season, like they've had to? Schurrle is on some weird decline, Salah, Luis and Remy are ghosts and bizarrely not in the trust circle somehow. Rami has been unlucky and Mourinho's untouchables policy hasn't helped but I think they do have in-form and better performing alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Yes, for me. It's not even a debate IMO, as their points and results show. They've rotated better not just out of necessity but also because they can afford to trust the bench. Do Chelsea get anywhere near their points haul without Costa, Terry, Hazard and Matic for parts of the season, like they've had to? Schurrle is on some weird decline, Salah, Luis and Remy are ghosts and bizarrely not in the trust circle somehow. Rami has been unlucky and Mourinho's untouchables policy hasn't helped but I think they do have in-form and better performing alternatives.That's what I said and that's key. Better peforming. I say it's because of the game time. Utd have suffered an incredible amount of injuries. They've had to change their line-up constantly. They don't even having that much quality overall to begin with. A lot of squad players, youngsters even, had to come in and play. They are 9 points behind a pratically fully fit Chelsea and City. Quite remarkable.Schurrle, Salah and Ramires were all better last season, Mikel is Mikel, Remy scored 14 PL goals last season and Luis was a starter for a La Liga winning side, also playing in the CL final. These aren't poor players. They look poor though, but they lack match rythm. And they seem to lack trust from their manager, that affects your game. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Lol.. wow! Hazard, Fabregas and Costa all exist, you know?Manchester City: Where the grass is always greener.Costa, remy, drogba vs a fit aguero, jovetic and dzeko.Mdifield is debatable.However a fit kompany, nastisic, mangala and demichellis vs jt, cahill, ivan and zouma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I just checked. Chelsea have played 11 away games, City 10. Chelsea 19 points, City 23 points.City do have the far tougher away game schedule though. West Ham and Arsenal are the most tricky for Chels. City have to go to Everton, Chelsea, Stoke, Liverpool, Man Utd and Tottenham.So that definitely makes things more difficult for them. Our team hasn't exactly been performing away from home though. Need to step it up. 6 W from the last 8 away games should be possible. 5 W at the least, with max 1 L. I wonder how long the perfect home run will continue.Thats what my point was or what i was trying to make before.City is leveled with chelsea even though City has a terrible injury bugs this whole season with key players getting hit hard.When both are completely healthy, City is a better overall squad than Chelsea. And no way in hell will chelsea beat city in goals scored this season, so chelsea needs to make sure they win in points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Costa, remy, drogba vs a fit aguero, jovetic and dzeko.Mdifield is debatable.However a fit kompany, nastisic, mangala and demichellis vs jt, cahill, ivan and zouma? Mangala, Natasic, and Demichilis are shit. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Costa, remy, drogba vs a fit aguero, jovetic and dzeko.Mdifield is debatable.However a fit kompany, nastisic, mangala and demichellis vs jt, cahill, ivan and zouma? My main point was that the 3 Chelsea players I mentioned deserve to be top 3 in England more than that City trio.All positions are debatable I think.. Both teams conceded pretty much the same amount of goals. Kompany might be better than all of our CBs at times but the other 3 are not. Plus, Azpi is better than their fullbacks at least defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 My main point was that the 3 Chelsea players I mentioned deserve to be top 3 in England more than that City trio.All positions are debatable I think.. Both teams conceded pretty much the same amount of goals. Kompany might be better than all of our CBs at times but the other 3 are not. Plus, Azpi is better than their fullbacks at least defensively.I said when fit.Aguero is a class alone when fit in the epl.Kompany has been playing/been injured this whole season and demichellis has been pretty good this season as well. Nastasic at a point of his young career was viewed as the best cb prospect along with varane as was mangala.Their full backs are the best attacking ones in the league, however, as you said dave is better defensively than all 4 of city's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 My main point was that the 3 Chelsea players I mentioned deserve to be top 3 in England more than that City trio.All positions are debatable I think.. Both teams conceded pretty much the same amount of goals. Kompany might be better than all of our CBs at times but the other 3 are not. Plus, Azpi is better than their fullbacks at least defensively.top 3, yet as a squad I say they are much more balanced.Our squad seems to really be a few class players surrounded by absolute rubbish, much more blanace with theirs. Like even their true DMs, like Fernandinho and Fernando won't sit back and refuse to contribute to attack the way a Mikel does when we are on top. Oscar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 top 3, yet as a squad I say they are much more balanced.Our squad seems to really be a few class players surrounded by absolute rubbish, much more blanace with theirs. Like even their true DMs, like Fernandinho and Fernando won't sit back and refuse to contribute to attack the way a Mikel does when we are on top.One of life's biggest mysteries is the fact that Mikel is still at Chelsea since fucking 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 One of life's biggest mysteries is the fact that Mikel is still at Chelsea since fucking 2006.Boggles the mind doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 top 3, yet as a squad I say they are much more balanced.Our squad seems to really be a few class players surrounded by absolute rubbish, much more blanace with theirs. Like even their true DMs, like Fernandinho and Fernando won't sit back and refuse to contribute to attack the way a Mikel does when we are on top.Fair point. I agree, the balance is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Brenton 2012Rodgers 2014: Gerrard's arguably the best ever PL player.What a mong Muzchap and Despiadado.Maleante 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Liverpool changed him.Plus gotta say it or fans go mental n burn things n crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Liverpool changed him.Plus gotta say it or fans go mental n burn things n crapOr threaten to murder you and your wife...... or clubs secretary?? or whoever Brenton is banging these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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