Grant Equals Mourinho Record

[.Cee 50]

Frankly my (....) I don't give a damn..how you intend to treat my remarks or not, and lets just make one thing clear I don't receive from you "chances" or anything else for that matter, & anyway I wouldn't ever except anything from you or anyone else that writes or talks in a similar fashion like you did there, for anything in the world.

I think that people that make any kind of deliberate offensive racist remarks like you did should be kicked out and shunned from any possible forum(virtual or not), just like certain fans would be banned from the stands of any given stadium & sometimes could be even criminally charged if they would use racial & offensive language & actions in their chants & behavior,

there shouldn't be any exception here just because its an anonymous virtual type of forum,

And just to remind everyone what was that racist antisemitic "yids" remark you made there,

here it is again..-

- "If he was half the man he would have accepted that, in no way was qualified for this position, But he bit and took the wedge, shouldnt be surprised, yid after all."-(end of quote),

I think that anyone that would except & not feel any need to protest words of that sought probably should also go & get him/er checked for their sickness.

Well Iam really glad to hear that & that you feel that way, & lets try & be as optimistic as possible & hope that your figures of 99.9% are even remotely close to the reality.. for the sake of the future of this club, and the World.....

and by the way the guy's remark there was much more than just saying the word "yid"(that may have been some short of yiddish in the past, I dont know), it was about the whole context & meaning of what he wrote there about those "yids" he referred to, Its a big enough problem he used that word, that as I understand isn't used any more usually in a positive manner or as a short of "yiddish" or anything like that for all I know, but again that wasn't the main point, it was much more about what he wrote about those "yid" people, and much less about the use of that word itself.

You make it sound like he (CM2000) was ranting and using a lot of sentences in a racist way when he was just using a 3-letter word. :huh:

And actually the more that the time goes by & I hear in different Chelsea forums quite a substantial amount of racial remarks, some more hidden carefully between the lines but still unmistakable and a few others much more blunt, like the one that was referred to before, Iam starting to think that this club might really not deserve the likes of Abramovich & Grant (that are both "yids" of course for anyone that may of forgot by mistake),

this team was just another average team before RA took over & massively invested his money into it, & its about time that people here & elsewhere would start to acknowledge that it wasn't Mourinho that actually managed to turn this team around & to turn it into the world class performer it is. but it was actually R.Abramovich's doing, (although I think that Mourinho was a very good coach and he still had his positive part & influance on the change that could never be taken from him of course) .

but I must say, as the time goes by Iam starting to think that maybe all this team deserves is someone like Ken Bates with his kind of financial abilities to invest in the squad and to turn back again into another average mid-table team, & then you can maybe go & bring Mourinho back to coach Chelsea & will see if he would do as good & win as much silverware he did under RA, with his new & much more financially limited owner,

just like if Mourinho for example would of couched the likes of Everton or Spurs, do you really think he could have done anywhere close as well he did with Chelsea?, I doubt it allot! (& that is even an understatement in my opinion).

Are you a Spurs fan, btw? If so, please just f*ck off instead of provoking us. Do also f*ck off if not so.

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

now now biru, that's not the attitude... cracker is perfectly entitled to state his opinon.

one thing is though that more and more we are getting into personal attacks on members and not dealing with what the site is about and that is Chelsea football club.

back to CM2000 i've had my differences with him and probaly still will, we'll probaly rage at each other but at the end of the day i still respect him "yid hater" or not he like most of us has his own opions and should like the rest of us be allowed to express them.

fucking hell!!!!! i think i just praised CM2000........that cant be right

regards:JBD

[.Cee 50]

now now biru, that's not the attitude... cracker is perfectly entitled to state his opinon.

Yes, well, so am I. Free to state what I think about his opinion, that is.

[pluto 0]

100th Post of the thread...PEACE GUYS PEACE!!!!!

Congrats warnie!

And like you say peace people peace, lets not start accusing each other of being racist etc please!

Everyone on here seems pretty much okay in their views even if some of them express themselves a little more forthrightly than others.

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

Yes, well, so am I. Free to state what I think about his opinion, that is.

yeah i agree..................

but don't start on me with your pokey out tongue

try reading my post again, and see if you can get a grasp of it in the manner it was meant.

Edited January 31, 2008 by josesbluediamonds

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Hi Cracker. Are you a Spuds fan, or yid as they love to be called, as .Biru suggested ? Introduce yourself to everyone in the New Members forum bit.

As far as Grant is concerned - he got the job because hes a Jewish mate of Abramovich, and CM is right Jews do have a knack of positioning themselves where all the dosh is. It may be clever on their part, but if you start calling that anti semitic, it seems as though 'the lady doth protest too much'.

As Martin Samuel in The Times said -

'Beyond ''anti -semitism'', there is thinking that your manager is a muppet and got the job only because the owner is his mate. Now, as Chelsea fans will know, this stance is something entirely different.

Nobody is denying that there has been some dodgy stuff on various internet sites since Avram Grant got José Mourinho’s job, but there is always dodgy stuff on internet sites. That is the nature of the beast. Half the world is trapped in a strength-sapping porn cycle and much of the remainder is furiously composing the 21st-century equivalent of green ink letters and calling it a blog.

The biggest mistake that Chelsea’s executives could make would be to confuse the foam-lipped ranting of anonymous madmen with the genuine disquiet of those who have soldiered on through several decades of turmoil at Stamford Bridge and fear that defeat will be snatched from the jaws of victory because the owner would rather his wisdom go unchallenged in the dressing-room.'

[Elliott 7]

Cracker the main reason CM can get away with posts like that is

a) most of us are chilled out. Sometimes I forget to be, but I try to be

It's marked under his username, and as such is his opinion and his responsibility

We're not going to start telling people what to say and think. I don't agree with CM's anti-semitism, but I don't think he's as stupid to call for gas chambers etc etc, he just doesn't like them very much. We all have prejudices inside of us, yes even you, and while most of us fight to keep them back sometimes it's just not possible.

And anyway, your user name could be construed as racist

[Cracker 0]

Cracker the main reason CM can get away with posts like that is

a) most of us are chilled out. Sometimes I forget to be, but I try to be

It's marked under his username, and as such is his opinion and his responsibility

We're not going to start telling people what to say and think. I don't agree with CM's anti-semitism, but I don't think he's as stupid to call for gas chambers etc etc, he just doesn't like them very much. We all have prejudices inside of us, yes even you, and while most of us fight to keep them back sometimes it's just not possible.

And anyway, your user name could be construed as racist

yeah.. but its quite interesting & even shocking in away that Iam quite sure that no one here would ever dare to use-(thank goodness at least for that..) the "and" word referring to the black community or any of the black players of the team, & would have never of written here in an offending degrading & such a generalizing way about there religion or culture, but for some non understandable "funny" reason when they write in an extremely negative & degrading way about the owner of the team his manager & one of the teams players religion & culture in the most ignorant degrading & generalizing way like he did & few other of the writers here that followed him did, when they tried in the most ridicules & sometimes also in the most prejudice and racist ways anyone could ever imagine to defend him & what he wrote, It seems to them much more "normal" and o.k and it turns out to be even more acceptable for some totally

unconceivable reason also with some of the other members of the forum here.

And by the way the "Terms & rules" here of the site (look at the top of this page) are more than 100% clear about such use of foul language & substance & with an almost zero tolerance to such racist & offensive language, so if anyone here has got any kind of problem with that he can or force him self to shut his big gob up, or go & find the exit way out of the forum, its their choice what they decide to do but know one else here has to listen to all there load of crap foul language.

[Cracker 0]

yeah.. but its quite interesting & even shocking in away that Iam quite sure that no one here would ever dare to use-(thank goodness at least for that..) the "and" word referring to the black community or any of the black players of the team, & would have never of written here in an offending degrading & such a generalizing way about there religion or culture, but for some non understandable "funny" reason when they write in an extremely negative & degrading way about the owner of the team his manager & one of the teams players religion & culture in the most ignorant degrading & generalizing way like he did & few other of the writers here that followed him did, when they tried in the most ridicules & sometimes also in the most prejudice and racist ways anyone could ever imagine to defend him & what he wrote, It seems to them much more "normal" and o.k and it turns out to be even more acceptable for some totally

unconceivable reason also with some of the other members of the forum here.

And by the way the "Terms & rules" here of the site (look at the top of this page) are more than 100% clear about such use of foul language & substance & with an almost zero tolerance to such racist & offensive language, so if anyone here has got any kind of problem with that he can or force him self to shut his big gob up, or go & find the exit way out of the forum, its their choice what they decide to do but know one else here has to listen to all there load of crap foul language.

I meant there above "the and word referring to the black community" and not the "and"-word, like I wrote there by mistake.

[Cracker 0]

I meant there above "the and word referring to the black community" and not the "and"-word, like I wrote there by mistake.

Sorry again Ive got here for some reason a weird problem writing with my computer here in the forum

I wanted to write there-(hopefully for the last time..) the-(and) word,

not the "and" word.

[Cracker 0]

Sorry again Ive got here for some reason a weird problem writing with my computer here in the forum

I wanted to write there-(hopefully for the last time..) the-(and) word,

not the "and" word.

its not working right sorry..each time I write a single letter it changes into the word-and for some stupid reason ..anyway I meant to write about the black community the words negr.. like some idiots here write yid.. about the jews,

anyway sorry again about the double posts you can just rub them off..

[captainmarvel 1]

lol I suppose its to stop retarded "sms" style messages from being posted

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

..and retarded posters...

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

..and retarded posters...

Ooooooops FB......but it's funny anyway

regards:JBD

[Elliott 7]

It's not you cracker, it's that the admin have determined that the letter "en" on it's own has to mean and. Very annoying. So are you a jew then mate? Because otherwise, I can't see why it should offend you so much. Maybe you're making a moral judgement on CM, and that really isn't necessary.