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When we get a decent midfielder you'll realise how poor Ramires actually is.

He's the perfect choice for a team who have zero aspirations to do anything pro-active with the ball hence his important to this club in 2012. 69% passing against a team as bad as Galatasaray is absolutely appalling.

Ramires technical skills are terrible. Yet, he is going to be the player mourinho needs when he parks the bus next round and to mark their best player.

If our manager wasn't jose mourinho I would agree witb you.

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Ramires technical skills are terrible. Yet, he is going to be the player mourinho needs when he parks the bus next round and to mark their best player.

If our manager wasn't jose mourinho I would agree witb you.

Ramires is too stupid to man-mark a player. The best choice for doing that type of job is almost certainly Oscar anyway.

I actually think our aspirations lie beyond parking the bus and actually trying to dictate the tempo of a match. I wouldn't trust Ramires to dictate a memo.

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Ramires is too stupid to man-mark a player. The best choice for doing that type of job is almost certainly Oscar anyway.

I actually think our aspirations lie beyond parking the bus and actually trying to dictate the tempo of a match. I wouldn't trust Ramires to dictate a memo.

Jose is not offensively competent. I wouldn't want ramires to play that role as well, but he and William are the best people to mark out players.

Obviously, if we got xabi alonso or pirlo than ok. I would prefer 3 cms, ramires, matic and new cm.

Also stupid is not the correct term. If you watch the brazilians/ south americans play, tje agressive nature is common in them.

Look at sandro and melo. Two brazilian cms. Both agresssive and physical.

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69% pass accuracy, just another normal night for Ramires.

Frustrating is an understatement.

You are right and I'm surprised at how many people are surprised by this... :)

It's not like we signed a youngster and wanted him to develop differently. I've watched Ramires play against Gremio (for Cruzeiro Brazil) a few times in Libertadores and he was a handful - very difficult player to play against; this even before his time at Benfica. However, his technique, esp first touch and passing, is and has always been mediocre. He is a good player because of his fantastic stamina, great mentality (esp concentration), strength, and pace. His finishing is actually pretty good considering his technique or the lack thereof.

That's the player Ramires is and always will be. He will improve slightly here and there, but he hasn't changed drastically one way or another.

I'm not saying he is in good form right now - he isn't. Just saying his technique won't get much better because technique, out of all aspects, is the one that is the most difficult to improve. Players naturally improve their reading of the game as they play games and experience match situations, but rarely will they develop a better first touch, or passing.

Really don't understand all the fuzz about a red card at stoppage time. I couldn't agree more with Jose on this:

"I am angry [with Ramires], but you know in football it's difficult to keep control of the emotions," said Mourinho.

"There are persons in the game who are responsible to help the players control the emotions and, sometimes, these people are the people who push the players to lose their control. And I can't separate Ramires's tackle, which is a red card … I cannot separate that from the accumulation of frustration during the match. I feel that what happened in minute 92 was a consequence of the other 92 minutes we played before that. But that's just my opinion.

People who play something – they don't need to be professional, just competing for something – they'd know exactly what I'm speaking about. So for me, is it a red card? Yes, it is a red card. Was it in the first minute? Was it minute 20 and completely out of context, where you don't know why the player did this? When you see the moment and what happened before that, you understand clearly. Or you don't understand, but I do. I understand clearly that a player can make a mistake. He made a mistake. He's going to pay for the mistake.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/17/jose-mourinho-chris-foy-ramires-red-card-aston-villa

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Perfect game for Ramires to show his worth when Mourinho going to park the bus vs PSG.

Park the bus? That's the type of thing the anti-Chelsea bunch were saying about us going to Man City.

We'll prove you wrong again.

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The true colors are showing, sniffed it out hours ago.

sniffed what out, I already told you everyone in France hates PSG......

I guess if you commenting a bayern board, they would say the same thing cause your from england.

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Park the bus? That's the type of thing the anti-Chelsea bunch were saying about us going to Man City.

We'll prove you wrong again.

Playing City was a different game. City did not have fernandinho, aguero and nasri. In addition, they played demichless who was a huge reason why we won the game...

PSG do not have any injuries as of yet, so they will be at full force.

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happy bday, but in other news, he wasn't missed at all Saturday.

Not his pace, not his energy, not his stamina, not his defensive skills. We've got all that covered with Matic + David (maybe except the pace, but then again, we didn't need it), combined with good decision make, reliable pass and good vision. Matic had two assists and Luiz could have easily finished with one, given some of the passes he gave that put teammates at the edge of the box.

I do wish him to improve, though, and wish him well. It's just one game after his punishment and I already see the prophecy some of us saw becoming true: it's been a blessing in disguise. And thank God Luiz is healthy. Hopefully he'll stay like that.

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happy bday, but in other news, he wasn't missed at all Saturday.

Not his pace, not his energy, not his stamina, not his defensive skills. We've got all that covered with Matic + David (maybe except the pace, but then again, we didn't need it), combined with good decision make, reliable pass and good vision. Matic had two assists and Luiz could have easily finished with one, given some of the passes he gave that put teammates at the edge of the box.

I do wish him to improve, though, and wish him well. It's just one game after his punishment and I already see the prophecy some of us saw becoming true: it's been a blessing in disguise. And thank God Luiz is healthy. Hopefully he'll stay like that.

Those aren't the most important qualities when you have an extra set of legs on your side.

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