CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 "We should move to 4-3-3"What have we been playing from the start of the season, then? communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 When you take away the offensive/creative responsibilities he had on his shoulders last season, Rambo is given a little more freedom to roam and he looks a player again. For me, he changed the game yesterday, and gave us some impressive balance. He's always a willing runner and on the evidence of his last two performances he deserves to start. Whether that's in place of Schurrle, I don't know, but he looks like the player he was in 2012 again right now. stroey and Pizy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Matic holding with Cesc and Ramires in front. Our best midfield I think. Daniel1980, TheOneChan95, killer1257 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I liked our midfield in the second half. Matic-Fabregas-Ramires seems to be our best midfield provided Ramires shows some restraint and holds back to help out Matic in defence when needed and let Cesc go forward to link up with Eden and Oscar/Willian. Barbara and Bluelsthecolour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Lol, can't believe my eyes, seeing Ramires on the list. Blue-in-me-Veins, kellzfresh, Kieran. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Fabregas sometimes has been too deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueChelseaBlue 105 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Fabregas sometimes has been too deepToo deep yet he's assisted 6 goals already. Ok.There's always something to moan about, isnt there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Lol, can't believe my eyes, seeing Ramires on the list.This is why stats can only mean so much.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 "We should move to 4-3-3"What have we been playing from the start of the season, then? Are you even watching our matches? The second half yesterday was the first time we played a pure 4-3-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Are you even watching our matches? The second half yesterday was the first time we played a pure 4-3-3.I have been watching and the formation that we've been playing is much closer to 4-3-3 than 4-2-3-1 regardless of what the TV graphics say. It can't be called a 4-2-3-1 when Oscar plays so deep and him and Fabregas have interchangeable roles. Joker10, DYC. and The Chels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Too deep yet he's assisted 6 goals already.Ok.There's always something to moan about, isnt there?Sometimes you can't help but moan when he goes "too deep"....or so I'm told TheOneChan95, TrueChelseaBlue, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sometimes you can't help but moan when he goes "too deep"....or so I'm told Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I have been watching and the formation that we've been playing is much closer to 4-3-3 than 4-2-3-1 regardless of what the TV graphics say. It can't be called a 4-2-3-1 when Oscar plays so deep and him and Fabregas have interchangeable roles. you cant judge formations when we attack, you have to look at it how we defend. We have always defended with 2 blocks of 4 with Oscar as the pressing nr 10 behind Costa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 you cant judge formations when we attack, you have to look at it how we defend. We have always defended with 2 blocks of 4 with Oscar as the pressing nr 10 behind Costa.Huh? The team's formation is the formation they use when they have the ball. That has always been the case. We defend in a 4-4-2, always have. And even then, it is sometimes Oscar next to Costa and other times it Cesc (and even rarely, Matic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 While Ramires played a good game and much more useful then Schurrle, i wouldn't say he changed the game. What changed the game was when we pressed very high, and didn't allow Swansea bring up the ball with ease. Watch the game from 30m up you will see how much more difficult Swansea had and that point we really pinned them back and controlled the game. Ramires addition only further helped in that department. Also early in the game our passing was very sloppy, Matic and Schurrle were the biggest offenders of that. I liked our midfield in the second half. Matic-Fabregas-Ramires seems to be our best midfield provided Ramires shows some restraint and holds back to help out Matic in defence when needed and let Cesc go forward to link up with Eden and Oscar/Willian.The midfield of Ramires-Matic-Cesc is flawed, i could tell you what is wrong with it but i suggest watching the Everton game again. TheOneChan95 and Madmax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 While Ramires played a good game and much more useful then Schurrle, i wouldn't say he changed the game. What changed the game was when we pressed very high, and didn't allow Swansea bring up the ball with ease. Watch the game from 30m up you will see how much more difficult Swansea had and that point we really pinned them back and controlled the game. Ramires addition only further helped in that department. Also early in the game our passing was very sloppy, Matic and Schurrle were the biggest offenders of that. The midfield of Ramires-Matic-Cesc is flawed, i could tell you what is wrong with it but i suggest watching the Everton game again.Thw whole post is flawed.Everton game was a one off. A gane where none of our 3 Cms had a good match defensively. Hazard was woeful leaving azpi without cover. If u actually want to judge them, judge how well they cut off supply lines in this match. The only goal we conceded was when JT decided to take a stroll in the park and leave a glaring hole in the defence for shelvey to run in.Rambo DID change the game. We were pressing swansea for the last 20 minutes of the first half but were hardly as influential. Also we looked circumspect on counters. After rambo came in, the whole complexion of the natch changed. Our ball retention was amazing and we for once in the natch had continous prrssure on swansea resulting in the goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Thw whole post is flawed.Everton game was a one off. A gane where none of our 3 Cms had a good match defensively. Hazard was woeful leaving azpi without cover. If u actually want to judge them, judge how well they cut off supply lines in this match. The only goal we conceded was when JT decided to take a stroll in the park and leave a glaring hole in the defence for shelvey to run in.Rambo DID change the game. We were pressing swansea for the last 20 minutes of the first half but were hardly as influential. Also we looked circumspect on counters. After rambo came in, the whole complexion of the natch changed. Our ball retention was amazing and we for once in the natch had continous prrssure on swansea resulting in the goals.I am going to let you believe what you want to believe.I did say we were more influential with Ramires on the pitch and after the break, but not game changer. Game changer was our pressing of their CBs and them having harder time bringing the ball up the pitch.We will see more of Ramires-Matic-Cesc midfield in the future, we shell see if it was a off game or not. EMK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I am going to let you believe what you want to believe.I did say we were more influential with Ramires on the pitch and after the break, but not game changer. Game changer was our pressing of their CBs and them having harder time bringing the ball up the pitch.We will see more of Ramires-Matic-Cesc midfield in the future, we shell see if it was a off game or not.Mourinho said the same, but he also highlighted how much Ramires helped with that. So he deserves some credit too. We had already turned things around in the first half, but with Ramires addition we completely changed the way we pressed and then we started to dominate the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueChelseaBlue 105 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sometimes you can't help but moan when he goes "too deep"....or so I'm told Hahaha love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Huh? The team's formation is the formation they use when they have the ball. That has always been the case. We defend in a 4-4-2, always have. And even then, it is sometimes Oscar next to Costa and other times it Cesc (and even rarely, Matic). So how do you explain the back 4 when we have the ball? Iva plays as a right winger when we have the ball.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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