🇧🇷 Ramires

[BlueSunshine 672]

He can't pass, can't shoot, awful first touch, no tactical awareness and 99% of the times he is required to make a decision while under pressure he fucks it up big time. I can't wait for KDB to come back, Ramires should only play against weak teams so that KDB can be rested.

[Stats 7,147]

So here comes all the bullshit after one bad game. Everyone was bad today IMO. But all of a sudden, Ramires has a bad game and he is not good enough for the club. Bullshit. Please just look at the things he has done for the club before saying he is not good enough. Now all of a sudden the previous post states Ramires should play against the weak teams, contradictory. Was not that what people were saying he should be used for the big games? Please just look at what he has done against the 'bigger teams' before we state he is not good enough.

[The only place to be 11,313]

So here comes all the bullshit after one bad game. Everyone was bad today IMO. But all of a sudden, Ramires has a bad game and he is not good enough for the club. Bullshit. Please just look at the things he has done for the club before saying he is not good enough. Now all of a sudden the previous post states Ramires should play against the weak teams, contradictory. Was not that what people were saying he should be used for the big games? Please just look at what he has done against the 'bigger teams' before we state he is not good enough.

He's not good enough if we plan on controlling games rather than letting the other team have possession and try and hit them on the counter-attack.

He doesn't have the technique you need to control possession, he simply has a great engine. The only good thing he did today was not get sent off because I was convinced he was going to.

We need better players than Ramires in the double pivot and we need better players than him on the wing.

[Stats 7,147]

He's not good enough if we plan on controlling games rather than letting the other team have possession and try and hit them on the counter-attack.

He doesn't have the technique you need to control possession, he simply has a great engine. The only good thing he did today was not get sent off because I was convinced he was going to.

We need better players than Ramires in the double pivot and we need better players than him on the wing.

He was poor today for sure, but beforehand many of us would of said he is useful for this type of game, where we are going to get dominated in possession. Previous encounters against City he has been excellent, one I remember that solo goal he scored. However if we took him out of the team, we would be missing a huge player. He contributes goals, gives 100% and makes some vital interceptions and has one of the best work rates in the Premier League, if not the best. Both matches against Arsenal this season he was arguably our MOTM. There are many others problems apart from Ramires that need to be looked at because as far as I see it he is a vital player for us.

[Peace. 4,352]

If we are happy to have him in our starting eleven, then we must be happy to leave trophies to other teams.

At times, he reminds me of Kalou. Indeed, a friendly guy, playing with a good-will, passion and heart – and running around like a headless chicken. It might sound harsh, probably, but sometimes it appears to my eyes that at the exception of his running and work-rate, he doesn't set the world on fire, so to speak.

Because, let's be honest here : he has a bad passing game ; his crossing ability isn't much better ; he cannot shoot (yes, he can score marvellous goals [c.f. against Man.City and Barça] but for every shot on target he kills 10 birds and hurts two spectators) ; has not the ability to control the tempo/game ; has an aweful decision making.

He is a nice player to have in the squad in order to give us diversity in our options and to rotate the squad. But that's that. If we do truly aim for the summits, then he should be a squad player, not more.

P.S. Oh, and I forgot to mention that he is a dirty tackler. He is way too reckless, and he hits more often the player than the ball. Too many times he is borderline and is not far away from being sent-off (today again).

[The only place to be 11,313]

He was poor today for sure, but beforehand many of us would of said he is useful for this type of game, where we are going to get dominated in possession. Previous encounters against City he has been excellent, one I remember that solo goal he scored. However if we took him out of the team, we would be missing a huge player. He contributes goals, gives 100% and makes some vital interceptions and has one of the best work rates in the Premier League, if not the best. Both matches against Arsenal this season he was arguably our MOTM. There are many others problems apart from Ramires that need to be looked at because as far as I see it he is a vital player for us.

I won't dispute his work rate, but sometimes you need someone who can control the tempo of the game rather than someone who can simply outrun it.

It pisses me off that people seem happy with us trying to use Ramires to cover up our deficiencies rather than try and eliminate them. If we plan on being a top team, he has no place in the starting line-up. It would be Mikel and a playmaker in the double-pivot (even though I'm not overly enamoured with Mikel) and a proper winger.

I have nothing against him personally because he's a lovely chap by all accounts, but I'd rather have someone with skill in that position rather than someone who can run all day.

By the way, he was definitely MOTM against Arsenal because he was brilliant ON THE COUNTER-ATTACK AND BREAKING UP PLAY in the second-half, but that was a direct result of him and Lampard being unable to control the game. They were outplayed by Arsenal's midfield and almost cost us the game. But you choose to see his performance one way, I choose to see it another.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

Average.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

This system does not suit ramires.In a 4-3-3 ramires is brilliant.

[Backstreet09 499]

Average.

Far below average . Shoudnt be in the team imo , oh wait he'a a brazilian

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I swear we should lock player threads after games

He had a terrible game, on the ball at least. He wasn't the only one. Let's move on..

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

This Ramires isn't a good technical player is bullshit. Sick of reading it for fuck sake.

His goal against Barca was brilliant, one of the best chipped goals I've ever seen. Yet some people say hes not good enough for the pivot because of his technique? Against Sparta I thought he looked excellent technically as well, he was pinging passes with the outside of his foot well, the instep well, control was great etc. For games with Brazil hes been great too, especially technically. I think you guys need to remember that not every cunt can be Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets or Fabergas or whoever.

Still our best CM along with Mikel.

Also one bad game and its just him you call for? Get a grip.

[Styles 9,790]

Ramires is who he is. He's a great athlete but technically he is more miss than hit. His first touch is not consistent enough but we have to accept that because he offers speed and energy in a midfield that lacks it.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I swear we should lock player threads after games

He had a terrible game, on the ball at least. He wasn't the only one. Let's move on..

Why not lock the threads of players you like when they have bad games?

What position do you have him pencilled in for next year by the way? Right-wing or midfield?

This Ramires isn't a good technical player is bullshit. Sick of reading it for fuck sake.

His goal against Barca was brilliant, one of the best chipped goals I've ever seen. Yet some people say hes not good enough for the pivot because of his technique? Against Sparta I thought he looked excellent technically as well, he was pinging passes with the outside of his foot well, the instep well, control was great etc. For games with Brazil hes been great too, especially technically. I think you guys need to remember that not every cunt can be Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets or Fabergas or whoever.

Also one bad game and its just him you call for? Get a grip.

I've said for a long-time that he has an inconsistent first-touch and we can't build a team with him in the midfield, if we plan on controlling games.

People like you will always bring up the Barca goal. Fair enough. Torres should be kept around because he scored against them then?

Wait, no?? But how can that be?

He was piss poor today but not for the first-time.

But if you can honestly say he's in your first XI next year, then fair enough.

[Backstreet09 499]

I swear we should lock player threads after games

He had a terrible game, on the ball at least. He wasn't the only one. Let's move on..

The amount of hypocrisy in your post is damn too high . No offense (:

[The only place to be 11,313]

Ramires is who he is. He's a great athlete but technically he is more miss than hit. His first touch is not consistent enough but we have to accept that because he offers speed and energy in a midfield that lacks it.

He offers speed and energy when we're chasing the ball.

How about, we try and get a midfielder who can control the tempo of games too?

Should I start getting medical training so I know how to sow fingers back on, or should I take lessons to improve my sword-juggling skills first?

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Why not lock the threads of players you like when they have bad games?

What position do you have him pencilled in for next year by the way? Right-wing or midfield?

I've said for a long-time that he has an inconsistent first-touch and we can't build a team with him in the midfield, if we plan on controlling games.

People like you will always bring up the Barca goal. Fair enough. Torres should be kept around because he scored against them then?

Wait, no?? But how can that be?

He was piss poor today but not for the first-time.

But if you can honestly say he's in your first XI next year, then fair enough.

I didn't mean that just because he scored, the way he scored the goal was excellent technically. The goal against Pompy as well where he lobbed it over the keeper rushing out too. The problem with Ramires is the tactical side of the team, we use a 4-2-3-1 where he is alright in it next to Mikel some times. Nobody works harder then Rami in our team usually, not one player, the midfield already lacks energy but a midfield without Ramires??/ Would be fucking awful. The fact hes not in the middle as well, I think that affects his game because I will be honest, his crossing is shit. The rest of his game is alright though. Hes a big player for us especially on the back of last years performances and the start of this year.

[Styles 9,790]

He offers speed and energy when we're chasing the ball.

How about, we try and get a midfielder who can control the tempo of games too?

Should I start getting medical training so I know how to sow fingers back on, or should I take lessons to improve my sword-juggling skills first?

And we're chasing the ball an awful lot because this team carries an awful lot of passengers. Of course our midfield play is terrible but for the rest of this season Ramires is one of the first names on teamsheet because he offers the athleticism that so many others in this team lack.

We definitely need to address the midfield in the summer but for the rest of this Ramires is first 11 easily.

[Jase 43,479]

Nearly died from laughing and crying watching his touches today. The first, the second, everything about him in the game was just woeful!

[Stats 7,147]

I didn't mean that just because he scored, the way he scored the goal was excellent technically. The goal against Pompy as well where he lobbed it over the keeper rushing out too. The problem with Ramires is the tactical side of the team, we use a 4-2-3-1 where he is alright in it next to Mikel some times. Nobody works harder then Rami in our team usually, not one player, the midfield already lacks energy but a midfield without Ramires??/ Would be fucking awful. The fact hes not in the middle as well, I think that affects his game because I will be honest, his crossing is shit. The rest of his game is alright though. Hes a big player for us especially on the back of last years performances and the start of this year.

His goal against Wigan a few weeks ago in the 4-1 win technically brilliant as well. The composure he showed to finish off that goal was excellent.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I didn't mean that just because he scored, the way he scored the goal was excellent technically. The goal against Pompy as well where he lobbed it over the keeper rushing out too. The problem with Ramires is the tactical side of the team, we use a 4-2-3-1 where he is alright in it next to Mikel some times. Nobody works harder then Rami in our team usually, not one player, the midfield already lacks energy but a midfield without Ramires??/ Would be fucking awful.

I'm never going to suggest that he doesn't work hard, but I'd rather have someone with better technical skills who can keep the ball moving accurately and efficiently rather than someone who can run around all day.

So where do you have him pencilled into the team next year? Because I've got a playmaker like Modric alongside Mikel in the double-pivot, and Moses on the right-wing.

And we're chasing the ball an awful lot because this team carries an awful lot of passengers. Of course our midfield play is terrible but for the rest of this season Ramires is one of the first names on teamsheet because he offers the athleticism that so many others in this team lack.

We definitely need to address the midfield in the summer but for the rest of this Ramires is first 11 easily.

So he's good enough because we're shit? Fair enough, at least you're honest.

For me, I'd sell him in the summer and get a proper playmaker in to play alongside Mikel and I'd probably put Chalobah in the squad too.