Milan 17,957 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 He should be banned from playing at the moment, let alone on the right wing. Sloppy, awful first touch... Sheva. and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Ramires must adapt to the double pivot role as I see Moses/Marin the ideal candidates for the right winger role.The departure of Raul probably does make sense now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 please not RW for ramires Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Ramires lack defensive skills, strenght, ball controll and passing. Thats basiclly everything a pivot player needs!!! For me its clear: As long as we play the 4-2-3-1 formation ramires aint good enough to be a starter. And please dont come with the "well then lets change back to the 4-3-3 formation" because no, i dont want us to change formation just so it suits players like Lampard and Ramires. Weve played 4-2-3-1 ever since RDM came and its with that formation we won the fa cup and CL. Why should we just suddenly change to a formation our players havent even used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 please not RW for ramiresAgreed - he runs into trouble or gives the ball away.It's not his natural position so not critisicing him - annoyed he is being asked to play there...It like asking a tyre fitter to change your clutch - he has most of the tools available, but theory and practice are 2 different things.Moses has shown he can start, so hopefully Ramy on RW will phase out... zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Agreed - he runs into trouble or gives the ball away.It's not his natural position so not critisicing him - annoyed he is being asked to play there...It like asking a tyre fitter to change your clutch - he has most of the tools available, but theory and practice are 2 different things.Moses has shown he can start, so hopefully Ramy on RW will phase out...Marin should be ready soon as well Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Thinking back about yesterday, find it ridiculous that RDM decided to stick Ramires at RW till the 60-70th minute. Bosingwa was playing at LB for much of the game and RDM didn't even bother to bring Moses on way earlier to test him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Thinking back about yesterday, find it ridiculous that RDM decided to stick Ramires at RW till the 60-70th minute. Bosingwa was playing at LB for much of the game and RDM didn't even bother to bring Moses on way earlier to test him there. Yup, that's why people have been frustrated, especially me...We know ALL of Bosys weaknesses, so who better to exploit them, than us Oh well role on Stoke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Still think Rami should start ahead of Lampard vs Juve and Moses on the right. Muzchap and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 After Terry's goal line clearance (following Mikel's backpass) the ball fell to Ramires in his own box and he used his burst off pace to escape from danger.Ive missed that side to Ramires and one we will never see at right mid unless were facing a side that plays the high line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 After Terry's goal line clearance (following Mikel's backpass) the ball fell to Ramires in his own box and he used his burst off pace to escape from danger.He also defended well against Bosingwa in one moment in that second half when the latter bombed forward towards the byline. Luckily for us, he didn't put in the cross when he could have done so actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 It's a travesty how he's played on the wing...Ramires has limited skill sets to do well there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 From a key player into borderline Liability. Feel sorry for Ramires and what RDM is doing to him. RamiCFC9 and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 From a key player into borderline Liability. Feel sorry for Ramires and what RDM is doing to him.THIS!!!I hate moaning about him - the guy gives 100% every game and is a great player - but he's been giving the shitty end of the stick... ESPECIALLY as we have DEDICATED players to play in that EXACT position...Just wish he'd be given a chance alongside Mikel.. If he picked the ball up - he could run forward and push it wide to the wings (Hazard or Moses) or through the centre (Oscar/Mata/Torres/Studge - whoever is playing) - then Mikel could sit deep and his lack of pace would not be exposed as much, because Ramires has an abundance of pace!If I, as an ageing 36 yr old Champ Man/FM/Fifa guy can see this (not to mention all of the other posters) - WHY can't RDM? It's just got to be worth trying.... Ramires gives so much and is getting so little lately... I know I'll end up not liking him - but I do really like him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 THIS!!!I hate moaning about him - the guy gives 100% every game and is a great player - but he's been giving the shitty end of the stick... ESPECIALLY as we have DEDICATED players to play in that EXACT position...Just wish he'd be given a chance alongside Mikel.. If he picked the ball up - he could run forward and push it wide to the wings (Hazard or Moses) or through the centre (Oscar/Mata/Torres/Studge - whoever is playing) - then Mikel could sit deep and his lack of pace would not be exposed as much, because Ramires has an abundance of pace!If I, as an ageing 36 yr old Champ Man/FM/Fifa guy can see this (not to mention all of the other posters) - WHY can't RDM? It's just got to be worth trying.... Ramires gives so much and is getting so little lately... I know I'll end up not liking him - but I do really like him...I hate when people underestimate the imprtance of the 2 defensive midfielders. You cant just take any player and put them there if you want to build a really good and solid team. I mean just watch Jack Wilsheres performace vs Barcelona in 2011. The way he held the ball and delivered it around. Thats the type of DM we need to play with Mikel, not Ramires with bad strenght, ball controll and passes. And you mentioned that Ramires can run with the ball and push it forward... first of all just running away is easier said than done. He might aswell lose the bad again, especially against better teams. Secondly if you have watched the football movie "Goal!" you might remember the scene when the coach shows the main character (cant remeber his name) that passing is a much faster way of getting the ball forward than running. Thats my answear for you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I hate when people underestimate the imprtance of the 2 defensive midfielders. You cant just take any player and put them there if you want to build a really good and solid team. I mean just watch Jack Wilsheres performace vs Barcelona in 2011. The way he held the ball and delivered it around. Thats the type of DM we need to play with Mikel, not Ramires with bad strenght, ball controll and passes. And you mentioned that Ramires can run with the ball and push it forward... first of all just running away is easier said than done. He might aswell lose the bad again, especially against better teams. Secondly if you have watched the football movie "Goal!" you might remember the scene when the coach shows the main character (cant remeber his name) that passing is a much faster way of getting the ball forward than running. Thats my answear for you too.Fully agree - but RDM is going to keep picking him and I would prefer him there than on the RW...I just don't know why we sold Raul, he looked good against Newcastle...I think we do need to sign a dedicated player as for whatever reason, RDM isn't liking Romeu... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If only we signed Modric, damn ! Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 RAMI Y U NO SHOOT INSIDE BOX BUT SHOOT OUTSIDE BOX? BleedsBlue and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 RAMI Y U NO SHOOT INSIDE BOX BUT SHOOT OUTSIDE BOX?What about"RAMI Y U NO LEARN TO SHOOT FROM your BUD OSCAR?"edit can't put u r (together as one) it just filters to your .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 What about"RAMI Y U NO LEARN TO SHOOT FROM your BUD OSCAR?"He had about five seconds inside the box to take the shot but instead he passes to Torres who surrounded by Bianconeri and wasn't even facing goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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