LAM09 7,056 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said: Both fuck ups regardless I didn't agree with that. They just aren't comparable to this novice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 We desperately need a top striker and for Lavia to get back already. Caicedo has been an absolute machine and was great again today for the first half. But then even someone as tireless as he usually is was clearly running on empty. We need someone in there badly to lessen his work load. calculatingInfinity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, LAM09 said: I didn't agree with that. They just aren't comparable to this novice. Did we find he is a novice just now tho? Remember some of us reminding folks of that early on. thats why it’s unfair to not consider that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, LAM09 said: I didn't agree with that. They just aren't comparable to this novice. Point stands - Abramovich wouldnt have put up with this clusterfuck of results bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Point stands - Abramovich wouldnt have put up with this clusterfuck of results everything is so different today that I don’t really find it comparable. 1. Young squad (even CBs) 2. Squad has more depth than last season esp attack but still nothing compared abramomich era 3. Young and inexperienced manager tbf The game has also changed enough in recent years that I feel the bet on the new manager and system is warranted, but that’s also considering how th squad was built. hardly think abramovich would have hired a novice manager and then sacked him for getting novice results. Edited January 4 by robsblubot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, robsblubot said: everything is so different today that I don’t really find it comparable. 1. Young squad (even CBs) 2. Squad has more depth than last season esp attack but still nothing compared abramomich era 3. Young and inexperienced manager tbf The game has also changed enough in recent years that I feel the bet on the new manager and system is warranted, but that’s also considering how th squad was built. The disparity in results, or lack of, is what counts at the end of the day, so very comparable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: The disparity in results, or lack of, is what counts at the end of the day, so very comparable Agreed to disagree here. As discussed before nothing these owners are doing resembles what was done in the past. everything is now build for the future and not the now. imo disagreeing with the strategy is one thing, but I’m not surprised at all with the results much less with the lack of consistency—young players notoriously lack that. Edited January 4 by robsblubot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Same script. Sell the players Maresca doesn't trust and bring him players that he does. Acheampong looked good, but we need midfield depth for Enzo/Caicedo and someone to compete with Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I didn't want to jinx it earlier on, but this match went almost exactly as our home fixture against them. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 591 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Maresca: "We did enough to win the game but we need to kill the game. Unfortunately at the end, we concede but we did enough to win the game." robsblubot and bigbluewillie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, mkh said: Maresca: "We did enough to win the game but we need to kill the game. Unfortunately at the end, we concede but we did enough to win the game." I actually agree, which is partly why this result so frustrating. 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, mkh said: Maresca: "We did enough to win the game but we need to kill the game. Unfortunately at the end, we concede but we did enough to win the game." So profound. Not speaking the bleeding obvious or anything bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,186 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, Fulham Broadway said: So profound. Not speaking the bleeding obvious or anything I can see us dropping more points versus Bournemouth at the level we are playing bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) These matches are why we need a more ruthless CF. Simple as that. Whilst Jackson has improved his goal return this season, he had 2 or 3 chances where your thinking just hit the fucking target, you’ve done the hard bit, but as usual…. Not the first match and wont be the last which is why I have been crying out for us to get a more established CF. Some poor defensive moments again though. Wheels starting to look like they may come off a bit which isn’t good when Newcastle, City and Villa are picking up results. End of the season is a fair while away yet but if we didn’t end up qualifying for the CL - and these sort of games end up being why - hypothetically speaking would Enzo be held as accountable as Poch was last year? Given the owners belief that last seasons squad was a CL level squad? Edited January 4 by OneMoSalah LAM09 and Fulham Broadway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 22 minutes ago, Pizy said: We desperately need a top striker and for Lavia to get back already. Caicedo has been an absolute machine and was great again today for the first half. But then even someone as tireless as he usually is was clearly running on empty. We need someone in there badly to lessen his work load. I really like Caicedo but you think he was great today? I thought he was easily one of the weaker points of the team. But you are right, desperate to get Lavia back... Or just a proper alternative. Problem is also need a proper forward and the club already got a lot of money tied up in both positions. cfccrost and robsblubot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Vesper said: I can see us dropping more points versus Bournemouth at the level we are playing Yup the absence of killing games off is becoming a habit now Vesper and Reddish-Blue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,272 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Getting Lavia back is one thing. Keeping him back and fit is entirely another robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 58 minutes ago, Vesper said: I can see us dropping more points versus Bournemouth at the level we are playing Yarp and then we'll beat City just because and then go on to undo that result by dropping points in the game after. It's not like the old days where we could go 1-0 up and win anymore we don't have that strong defence..and cause we struggle with scoring then it's here's a point for you..here's some for you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 40 minutes ago, Vytis33 said: Getting Lavia back is one thing. Keeping him back and fit is entirely another Yeah that's the truth, sadly. Can be said about too many players as well. Reece James & Fofana too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, robsblubot said: Did we find he is a novice just now tho? Remember some of us reminding folks of that early on. thats why it’s unfair to not consider that now. No, and that one was key reason I was worried about appointing him in the hope he would "learn on the job." I guess we'll find out quick enough how much the board support him doing so should results continue. 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Point stands - Abramovich wouldnt have put up with this clusterfuck of results Once again, I'm not disagreeing. It's just that Roman wanted the best of the best or at least the next best thing. Whatever predicament we might have been in had he still here, it wouldn't have been this one. Do the board support this "project" or not? Time will tell. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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