Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea

[mkh 596]

Enzo Maresca: "I'm very happy with Robert [Sanchez], he's doing fantastic with us. Not only in building from the back but also making saves."

(@bbc5live)

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 minute ago, mkh said:

Enzo Maresca: "I'm very happy with Robert [Sanchez], he's doing fantastic with us. Not only in building from the back but also making saves."

(@bbc5live)

In all fairness, he has had some big saves this season. His distribution has been iffy though and also some moments for saves/crosses/set plays etc.

Was clear we needed to upgrade this season, so clear, but Maresca, Winstanley & Stewart clearly think he is adequate to be the clubs number 1. Which is embarrassing. He wasn’t even Brighton’s number 1 when we signed him. 

 

[mkh 596]

Jamie Carragher: "In terms of control of the game, Chelsea were better, but what let them down was the goalkeeper. They need a new goalkeeper if they want to get back to where they want to be."

(@SkySports)

[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

Carragher should stick to what hes best at -gobbing at 14 year old girls

[Special Juan 28,141]

Carragher isn't wrong, we need a top class keeper.

Sanchez should have been sat were Betinelli was today 

[cosmicway 1,333]

Are you serious he could have saved from point blank ?
He has distribution problem but other than that he is good.
 

[lluubbeenn 174]

As it usually happens with hyped up games it was a dreadful one. Both teams cancelled each other out for most of the time. Jones probably got the motm, but Salah won them the game. We put Gusto who is faster and than Veiga who is a lot stronger than him, but he more often than not found a way trough. 

In Salah and Van Dijk they have 2 players who are the best in their position in the world. That showed today, as Palmer was reminded he is not ready to dominate every single game.

We now need points in the next 3 games to keep up the confidence and momentum for top four. With all the hype around us and the ridicule around United they are 3 points behind us. We need to be better at home and at controlling games. All that said a lot of positive signs are still there. COYB!

[Blue Armour 4,443]

As much as I think Sanchez can be a goof at times, and even if I think James is one of the few truly WC players we have., that 2nd goal was largely down to James trying to be too clever with the offside trap, and also Curtis Jones bad (but ultimately the right) first touch. 

Think Sanchez was expecting him to take the shot first time, but got confounded by Curtis Jones' first touch of the ball.

[Blue Armour 4,443]

To me the glaring exposure from this game was Palmer and his positioning by constantly playing through the middle. Screw the goalkeeper. This isn't a title challenging season anyway.

Other teams are going to watch what happened today, and could adopt similar tactics to what Liverpool did and man mark him out of the game.

Maresca can hopefully come up with a better solution for this. Bringing on players like Nkunku and shoving him out wide for sake of the Cole Palmer show isn't helping.

[cosmicway 1,333]

43 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

As much as I think Sanchez can be a goof at times, and even if I think James is one of the few truly WC players we have., that 2nd goal was largely down to James trying to be too clever with the offside trap, and also Curtis Jones bad (but ultimately the right) first touch. 

Think Sanchez was expecting him to take the shot first time, but got confounded by Curtis Jones' first touch of the ball.

Was James to blame for Jones's free run ?
Surely the L'pool man ought to have been under pressure there. If he managed to score under pressure so be it, but not like that.
Our, goal one minute before Jones's goal, was similar but Jackson found the empty space a good distance from their box, not inside !
 

Edited October 21, 2024 by cosmicway

[Vesper 30,195]

2 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Are you serious he could have saved from point blank ?
He has distribution problem but other than that he is good.
 

no, if you watch a replay from an overhead angle, he was slow to react and could have come out far quicker and smothered the play from the beginning

[cosmicway 1,333]

44 minutes ago, Vesper said:

no, if you watch a replay from an overhead angle, he was slow to react and could have come out far quicker and smothered the play from the beginning

Watched. No he can't.
The ball hits Jones in the left knee and it looks there as if he might lose control and Sanchez can save by diving to his left, which is what he did.
But the ball falls kindly for Jones and with his right leg sends it the other way.
Then if Sanchez does n't dive to the left, again he is giving the L'pool attacker a tap-in situation - it's too close.
Can't be saved there.
Only if they had n't let Jones roam free.

[Vesper 30,195]

13 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Watched. No he can't.
The ball hits Jones in the left knee and it looks there as if he might lose control and Sanchez can save by diving to his left, which is what he did.
But the ball falls kindly for Jones and with his right leg sends it the other way.
Then if Sanchez does n't dive to the left, again he is giving the L'pool attacker a tap-in situation - it's too close.
Can't be saved there.
Only if they had n't let Jones roam free.

no, before there was any Jones contact wiht the ball Sanchez should have moved out to smother the play

Sky Sports, right after the game, went in great detail about it

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

no, before there was any Jones contact wiht the ball Sanchez should have moved out to smother the play

Sky Sports, right after the game, went in great detail about it

No can do. Jones was much closer to the ball.

[Vesper 30,195]

28 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

No can do. Jones was much closer to the ball.

not if you watch the replays

Sanchez was slow to react and had poor positioning

It is a rare thing for every single presenter on many of the multiple networks to agree, but I saw at least 12 or so all say the same thing

including multiple ex-keepers

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

not if you watch the replays

Sanchez was slow to react and had poor positioning

It is a rare thing for every single presenter on many of the multiple networks to agree, but I saw at least 12 or so all say the same thing

including multiple ex-keepers

It's replays I saw, not fast motion.
Now when you say he oughta have moved when he saw the cross coming, he did n't but I 'm not sure it was that easy.
You are blaming the wrong guy.
Answer me who left Jones totally unmarked to make his run.
If forwards were allowed such free space in the premier then matches would end with 20 goals apiece.

[King Kante 1,643]

45 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

It's replays I saw, not fast motion.
Now when you say he oughta have moved when he saw the cross coming, he did n't but I 'm not sure it was that easy.
You are blaming the wrong guy.
Answer me who left Jones totally unmarked to make his run.
If forwards were allowed such free space in the premier then matches would end with 20 goals apiece.

With the way we play, the emphasis is on the GK to come and clear when the ball gets played in behind. He didn't do that. On top being slow to come out, he also got his angles and body position wrong. He went far to close to his near post which gave Jones a massive gap to hit back post. On top of that, he had his left arm down at a 5/6 o'clock angle (when already being too near his near post) when it should've been at 3/4 o'clock. 

What doesn't make sense is that earlier in the game he literally had a pen overturned as he got the GK benefit of 'if the GK gets to the ball first, then it isn't a foul' whereas with the second goal he stops, gets his angles wrong then falls down. I honestly don't know how anyone can watch that goal and say he wasn't incredibly poor in that moment. 

[Vytis33 1,272]

Doesn’t sound like he’ll be going anywhere for now 

 

 

[Vesper 30,195]

1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Answer me who left Jones totally unmarked to make his run.
If forwards were allowed such free space in the premier then matches would end with 20 goals apiece.

Reece fucked up there, he blew the offsides trap.

I never said it was solely a cock-up by Sanchez alone.

[cosmicway 1,333]

52 minutes ago, King Kante said:

With the way we play, the emphasis is on the GK to come and clear when the ball gets played in behind. He didn't do that. On top being slow to come out, he also got his angles and body position wrong. He went far to close to his near post which gave Jones a massive gap to hit back post. On top of that, he had his left arm down at a 5/6 o'clock angle (when already being too near his near post) when it should've been at 3/4 o'clock. 

What doesn't make sense is that earlier in the game he literally had a pen overturned as he got the GK benefit of 'if the GK gets to the ball first, then it isn't a foul' whereas with the second goal he stops, gets his angles wrong then falls down. I honestly don't know how anyone can watch that goal and say he wasn't incredibly poor in that moment. 

Nosense.
I watched again about the possibility of Sanchez making an early exit and covering Joners's path.
He can't.
There is a pool player (who ?) on the penalty spot, probably in offside position but Sanchez can't tell.
If he makes an exit and the ball goes to that player the goalmouth is open.
After the ball reaches Jones it cannot be his fault. No way.
That James fcuked up the offside trap is evident however.