Chelsea 2-0 Sheff Utd

[cosmicway 1,260]

12 minutes ago, lucio said:

They’ve never sunk as low as we have. They’ve had PL 2nd places , Europa league and domestic cups in that time frame . We look like being a bottom half club 

Over the ten years they sunk lower.

[Vesper 27,352]

6 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

I have been in hospital for six days

I so hope all is oki m8!!!!

💙

[lucio 5,407]

34 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Over the ten years they sunk lower.

Our declines didn’t begin at the same time. Over the 10 year period they’ve never been as low as we are now and last season 

[cosmicway 1,260]

8 minutes ago, lucio said:

Our declines didn’t begin at the same time. Over the 10 year period they’ve never been as low as we are now and last season 

Ok it's not exactly the same.
But what are the reasons for their decline compared to ours ?

[Mário César 816]

our decline started after 09/10 season. after that season we showed a lot of inconsistent, but despite that, we were a decent side and at least we were a consistent top4 side in the last 10 years, if we excluded two seasons (15/16 and 17/18)

both liverpool and city become to strongs. we made a lot of mistakes with salah and KDB departures hunted us several years but nothing compares to our last 2 seasons with tood bohley, that destroyed our club

[lucio 5,407]

1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Ok it's not exactly the same.
But what are the reasons for their decline compared to ours ?

They lost their manager , we lost our owner and with him the entire structure of the club. 

[lucio 5,407]

33 minutes ago, Mário César said:

our decline started after 09/10 season. after that season we showed a lot of inconsistent, but despite that, we were a decent side and at least we were a consistent top4 side in the last 10 years, if we excluded two seasons (15/16 and 17/18)

both liverpool and city become to strongs. we made a lot of mistakes with salah and KDB departures hunted us several years but nothing compares to our last 2 seasons with tood bohley, that destroyed our club

We won 2 PL and 2 CL since then though. We would have stayed a top team under Roman 

[Mário César 816]

4 minutes ago, lucio said:

We won 2 PL and 2 CL since then though. We would have stayed a top team under Roman 

yes but we never became consistent in the league. 

if we excluded our 2 premierleague winners, how many times we chasing the title? only two (10/11 and was a shit season) and 13/14, that I believe that if we had not torres but a better striker we had won that league

after conte title, we were never capable of fighting for the title again

[cosmicway 1,260]

4 minutes ago, Mário César said:

yes but we never became consistent in the league. 

if we excluded our 2 premierleague winners, how many times we chasing the title? only two (10/11 and was a shit season) and 13/14, that I believe that if we had not torres but a better striker we had won that league

after conte title, we were never capable of fighting for the title again

Two big failures only (Mou second season, Conte second season).
I was not happy with Roman either but certainly a lot better than Boehly,
Boehly is not a "crabs man" but his advisers are useless.

[cosmicway 1,260]

15 minutes ago, lucio said:

They lost their manager , we lost our owner and with him the entire structure of the club. 

So after sir Alex the deluse.

[lucio 5,407]

33 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

So after sir Alex the deluse.

Yes , if they had hired klopp or pep years ago they’d probably be a dominant team still.

with us it’s Harder to recover 

[cosmicway 1,260]

1 hour ago, lucio said:

Yes , if they had hired klopp or pep years ago they’d probably be a dominant team still.

with us it’s Harder to recover 

Except for Lamps maybe all of our managers were worhtless ?

[lucio 5,407]

8 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Except for Lamps maybe all of our managers were worhtless ?

Tuchel , conte and sarri are good managers 

potter and Lampard in particular are awful 

[cosmicway 1,260]

5 minutes ago, lucio said:

Tuchel , conte and sarri are good managers 

potter and Lampard in particular are awful 

Mou also if one forgives his parking lot antics.
So I don't think in the case of MU it was just the retirement of sir Alex. It must be something else they do wrong year after year.

[robsblubot 3,237]

14 minutes ago, lucio said:

Tuchel , conte and sarri are good managers 

potter and Lampard in particular are awful 

Tuchel and Conte were the best for me. Sarri was a step lower, IMO.

Potter and Lamps aren't really even comparable with Poch (regardless how you feel about him).

I agree that a top manager would take more out of these players, but I don't see an advantage in doing that at this moment. The signings we made demand a manager that will a) give minutes to youngsters b) help develop these players. "a)" goes against getting immediate results, so we are stuck with a different requirement for a manager for the moment.

Unless our signing strategy shifts and we start getting players who are ready.

[lucio 5,407]

24 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Mou also if one forgives his parking lot antics.
So I don't think in the case of MU it was just the retirement of sir Alex. It must be something else they do wrong year after year.

He was probably influential there beyond the scope of a regular manager, he must have had a lot of power 

[OneMoSalah 8,616]

12 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Was at his last game and he looked absolutely clueless - had lost the dressing room

Listened to the Obi Mikel podcast with RDM and other clips where he has mentioned AVB.

I think it is clear that dressing room whilst had plenty of leaders, a lot of success, clearly had big egos and more power than perhaps they should have had with regards to some of the managers.

Villas-Boas definitely one of them, even Gary Neville had mentioned on the overlap some time ago that Ashley Cole and Frank went running to their friends in the press after being left out of the Napoli CL game where we got beat in Naples.

Mikel definitely right about lack of leaders in this group though - without doubt. But we had the likes of Azpi, Jorginho, Kante and even Kovacic who was more senior but 90% of the folk here were undoubtedly happy to trade them in for guys like Gusto, Enzo, Caicedo and Lavia - as they were younger/potentially good players - and not even when we had made those signings, there were idiots (and yes that is the word I will use because they were idiots to suggest it) who wanted us to sell the likes of Azpi and Kante long long before they left too.

Need to gradually taper these bigger more senior guys out of your squad, not all in one go. But nobody could see past Boehly spunking his load on £1bn of young players who might be the worlds best or might not be.

 

If we lose to these crowd at the weekend Poch has to go also. Unacceptable.

Edited December 13, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[xPetrCechx 13,548]

The following injury update has been provided ahead of Chelsea’s Premier League fixture against Sheffield United at Stamford Bridge.

The club can confirm Marc Cucurella, Reece James and Robert Sanchez are set for spells on the sidelines following medical results this week.

All three had to be substituted during Sunday’s fixture against Everton, with captain James withdrawn during the first half before issues forced Cucurella and Sanchez off during the final moments at Goodison Park.

Following initial assessments, Cucurella is now due to meet foot and ankle specialists with next steps to be decided in the coming days.

Meanwhile, goalkeeper Sanchez has undergone assessments on his knee with the club’s medical department and specialists.

The news follows the club's announcement earlier this week regarding captain Reece James, with results confirming a significant hamstring injury for the 24-year-old.

Full injury update ahead of tomorrow’s Premier League fixture against Sheffield United

Robert Sanchez – continuing to undergo specialist assessment.

Marc Cucurella – undergoing assessment and due to meet with foot and ankle specialists to decide next steps.

Reece James – undergone assessment this week and beginning rehabilitation programme

Trevoh Chalobah – continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme.

Ben Chilwell – continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme.

Carney Chukwuemeka – continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme 

Wesley Fofana – continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme.

Lesley Ugochukwu – continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme.

Noni Madueke – progressing with the reconditioning phase of his rehabilitation.

Romeo Lavia – returned to partial team training.

Malo Gusto – returned to full team training.

Christopher Nkunku – returned to full team training.