JFKvsNixon 55 Posted January 11, 2024 Share Posted January 11, 2024 Has anyone thought that maybe the hesitant and underwhelming performances from the players may be more due to the lack of clear instructions and guidance from the management? The criticism that came out from Potch's time at PSG was that he never ran any tactical drills. It's often said that a lot of teams rehearse patterns of play, on and off the ball, over and over again so each player knows where their teammates are in any given situation. We often see this when teams put us under severe pressure pressing us when we try to play out from the back. It looks like the Chelsea players are unsure of whet they are doing, and that they're making it up as they go along. It's also noticeable when you see Chelsea trying to break down a low block, with very little options open to the player on the ball apart from a safe pass backwards or sideways. I'm happy to cut the players some slack because the truth probably is that we have no idea how good these players are until we see them in cohesive team that's set up to take advantage of their strengths. Nothing would make me happier if Potch was to prove me wrong and turn Chelsea around, but the next few games against Fulham, Villa and Middlesbrough seem to be make or break time. Norfolkblue1961, DDA and Strike 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 11, 2024 Share Posted January 11, 2024 12 minutes ago, JFKvsNixon said: Has anyone thought that maybe the hesitant and underwhelming performances from the players may be more due to the lack of clear instructions and guidance from the management? The criticism that came out from Potch's time at PSG was that he never ran any tactical drills. It's often said that a lot of teams rehearse patterns of play, on and off the ball, over and over again so each player knows where their teammates are in any given situation. We often see this when teams put us under severe pressure pressing us when we try to play out from the back. It looks like the Chelsea players are unsure of whet they are doing, and that they're making it up as they go along. It's also noticeable when you see Chelsea trying to break down a low block, with very little options open to the player on the ball apart from a safe pass backwards or sideways. I'm happy to cut the players some slack because the truth probably is that we have no idea how good these players are until we see them in cohesive team that's set up to take advantage of their strengths. Nothing would make me happier if Potch was to prove me wrong and turn Chelsea around, but the next few games against Fulham, Villa and Middlesbrough seem to be make or break time. Yet he was meticulously known for running tactical drills and attacking patterns at Espanyol, Southampton & Spurs. PSG was a weird one for him, that front 3 not pressing, all superstars in their own right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 11, 2024 Author Share Posted January 11, 2024 Perhaps the owners are not as patient as the press clippings imply! Fernando, DDA and Reddish-Blue 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon 55 Posted January 11, 2024 Share Posted January 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Yet he was meticulously known for running tactical drills and attacking patterns at Espanyol, Southampton & Spurs. PSG was a weird one for him, that front 3 not pressing, all superstars in their own right. I was more than happy to ignore the criticisms of Potch on his appointment for the reasons that you gave. After all, apart from PSG, his body of work was excellent. Again the lack of team cohesion at the beginning of the season never bothered me too much, it's expectable that it would take a time to turn around last seasons mess. My issue is the lack of progress with the cohesion, I can't remember the last time I went into a Chelsea game confident and excited, because I just can't seem to see what the team are trying to do. It's no fun when the best you can expect is to watch Chelsea stumbling through games time and time again, even the teams of Hoddle, and Guillit played with a swagger and were enjoyable to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 11, 2024 Share Posted January 11, 2024 (edited) 43 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Perhaps the owners are not as patient as the press clippings imply! Hellelujah... honestly... this Is great news. Edited January 11, 2024 by DDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 12, 2024 Share Posted January 12, 2024 So it turns out Enzo, Caicedo and Colwill are all unhappy with Potchs lack of instruction and tactical briefing. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 12, 2024 Share Posted January 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, DDA said: So it turns out Enzo, Caicedo and Colwill are all unhappy with Potchs lack of instruction and tactical briefing. Where did you read that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted January 12, 2024 Share Posted January 12, 2024 4 hours ago, DDA said: So it turns out Enzo, Caicedo and Colwill are all unhappy with Potchs lack of instruction and tactical briefing. Wouldn't be surprising considering Caicedo had better tactical instructions at Brighton, Enzo was used far better at Benfica and I doubt Colwill expected to be playing LB this season. bigbluewillie and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted January 12, 2024 Share Posted January 12, 2024 15 hours ago, JFKvsNixon said: I was more than happy to ignore the criticisms of Potch on his appointment for the reasons that you gave. After all, apart from PSG, his body of work was excellent. Again the lack of team cohesion at the beginning of the season never bothered me too much, it's expectable that it would take a time to turn around last seasons mess. My issue is the lack of progress with the cohesion, I can't remember the last time I went into a Chelsea game confident and excited, because I just can't seem to see what the team are trying to do. It's no fun when the best you can expect is to watch Chelsea stumbling through games time and time again, even the teams of Hoddle, and Guillit played with a swagger and were enjoyable to watch. I do question what Poch has actually changed compared to say Potter or Lampard as results wise we're still a mid-table club....and we still play like a mid table club. There is ZERO fear factor with the current set of players and teams know that we'll likely buckle under the pressure or give up if they get that 1-0 lead against us. The most concerning part is that he doesn't seem to know how to get the best out of Enzo & Caicedo in midfield. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 12, 2024 Share Posted January 12, 2024 On 11/01/2024 at 11:44, TheHulk said: Get Alonso in, he will also want Wirtz in, so another win for us. Real Madrid extends Carlo Ancelotti, giving Bayern Munich a free run at Xabi Alonso Of course, Leverkusen won't like this one bit. https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2023/12/29/24018812/bayern-munich-xabi-alonso-real-madrid-extends-carlo-ancelotti-brazil-jurgen-klopp-liverpool-fc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,418 Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 (edited) This just looks so much more coherent than what we do at the moment. I like this breakdown. I swear we are the only "big" team that doesn't play in triangles and diamond pass formations, it's all individual work and back passing. Also give this account a follow, great breakdown of some of the best coaches and player tactics. Edited January 17, 2024 by bluesman2610 Vesper and Norfolkblue1961 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 31, 2024 Share Posted January 31, 2024 Fucking leave you loser fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted January 31, 2024 Share Posted January 31, 2024 Addicted to losing. Get out of our club. lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted February 1, 2024 Share Posted February 1, 2024 He's broken now, you can see it in his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,493 Posted February 1, 2024 Share Posted February 1, 2024 No point restarting the process with a new manager. Stick with Poch and sign adults in the summer. This was always going to be a slow transformation. Owners have made it worse by signing 15-20 year olds and letting go of all the senior boys. Need to be patient and give Poch till the end of 24 at least. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted February 1, 2024 Share Posted February 1, 2024 The only thing that will save him is a cup final win and that's as likely as me waking tomorrow without a bumhole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted February 1, 2024 Share Posted February 1, 2024 On 17/01/2024 at 15:22, bluesman2610 said: This just looks so much more coherent than what we do at the moment. I like this breakdown. I swear we are the only "big" team that doesn't play in triangles and diamond pass formations, it's all individual work and back passing. Also give this account a follow, great breakdown of some of the best coaches and player tactics. Someone will try and convince me its the players that aren't understanding Poch's methods given their inexperience, when even our senior players look like they haven't a fucking clue. Mattill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted February 2, 2024 Share Posted February 2, 2024 He's too soft, with the media, with the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted February 2, 2024 Share Posted February 2, 2024 Potch is shite. Only winning a PL title could convince me otherwise and that isn't happening. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2, 2024 Share Posted February 2, 2024 18 hours ago, Special Juan said: The only thing that will save him is a cup final win and that's as likely as me waking tomorrow without a bumhole. Is it still there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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