Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 12 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: I will be honest, this lack of high pressing was also something that Pochettino and his reputation seemed to get around at PSG. I mean how could anyone say they were a high pressing team when Messi, Neymar and Mbappe stood around doing fuck all/half arsing it out of possession? I get the same feeling again that he isn’t actually trying to make us a hugely high pressing team like Southampton & Spurs were with him but more a possession based team. I mean thats what it looks like but even then, its not even that distinctive what our playing style is. Its that bad to the point that even Man United look much more of a high pressing team than we do with EtH and its next to impossible to guess what your watching when you watch them. I don't know what style of football United are playing under EtH but the fact that Bournemouth can rock up at Old Trafford, put on decent pressure and actually attack them....and beat them quite convincingly says alot about our players under Poch right now. I don't mind the odd losses if the players are putting the effort in and scoring goals and have the right attitude on the pitch but we've looked 2nd best to a large number of PL teams this season (other than against Liverpool, City, Arsenal) and that's a massive concern moving forward. I'd be very surprised if Poch survives at the end of the season as right now he looks no better than Potter or Lampard considering the amount of money invested into the club. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) The only problem I have with Poch right now is why play 4 CB at the same time? This using 2 CB as LB and RB is just nonsense. Why have Gusto and Maatsen here for that? If those guys are not good then sell them and get two good LB and RB. Does anyone ask about this in presser? I mean the journalist these days don't ask any good tactical questions any more.... Edited December 19, 2023 by Fernando NikkiCFC, dimmas and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 just realised that 10 and half months ago we were still the reigning FIFA World Club Champions (Real Madrid took over from us on February 11th, 2023) bonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Perhaps Chelsea don't need to pursue new signings in the January window after all. But what does the manager think? I'm the coach and I always want to take the best decisions for the club. Conor Gallagher is an important player, he's one of the captains, and I'm so happy with him. If Conor is playing for me it means he's performing. It means he's a player that we count on. He's in our plan. Mauricio Pochettino "The Sporting Director and us, we are always talking and assessing - if we need to do something, we'll be ready. The pressure is always to bring young talent, and we have different types of targets - with experience, without experience, some younger than others and that's what it takes to provide the team with what it needs. "We need to be open to describing the situation. Always communication is really good with the owners, we're sharing everything. It's about sharing ideas; we need each other to express our vision in a way that's a positive statement for the club. "If we need to add, we do it together, in a way that takes the best decision for the club." more here: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13033516/mauricio-pochettino-talks-chelseas-january-transfer-strategy-and-plans-to-restore-success-to-club You have the quote from Poch about Connor but then you have these statements. It sounds like they are working together? But then why say that about Connor? Makes it sounds like they are not working together....something does not add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Massive loser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Waste of energy to whine here I'm afraid; Let alone the weird move of hiring THE Tottenham man, that went surprisingly smooth with our fanbase, I said it before and will say it again – TB instead of making the leap forward after taking over, made 10 steps back with Potter and another 7 steps back with this shot-in-the-dark rebuild. Besides everything else, the appointment of Poch instead of, say, Nags (who probably f**d away asap after hearing about the rebuild plan) itself was a signal to tame our ambition even further. He wasn't serial winner, he wasn't a mastermind, not even just a winner. He is nice, decent, presentable and likeable man, as mid of a manager as one can be and those who thought otherwise and expected him to go full Mourinho with army of random U14 Brasilians and 4x overpaid Brighton reserves, given he didn't with freaking PSG, were just delusional (or clinical optimists, I'll give You guys that). The thing that worries me however is that there may be no red line drawn, where the board will admit it doesn't work and act accordingly, as we have painfully learnt with Potter ordeal. They don't care about detrimental consequences of spending big and not qualifying into Europe, as they wouldn't know that Fifa will not bat an eye on fiscal creativity of City or PSG, but they will go ballistic on us, hand in hand with British govt, who may still feel the pain in their back hearing the sole name of Chelsea for whatever reason. The issue however is, that I, personally, had no problem with us being dire under Mou, Sarri or Tuchel, because this team was exciting and atmosphere around it - the players, the board, the manager's personality - made fans be fine with bad times and bad decisions. No such thing since the takeover, unfortunately, we are just terrible and uninteresting. And on the way to become mid-table for years to come, with full acceptance of the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I still back poch. These results are expected for me. Burst now makes it more clear what we need. CB and striker. Disasi who we bought this summer was not a good buy. Badiashille who was buy last season is also come bad, Silva is old so he is leaving. That's 3 CB who are leaving or not good enough. We bought two CB from Monaco and have not improved. And then we got Fofana..... We need to get rid of Badi and Disasi and get new cb. I want Hincapie, and another cb. Striker there's no market right now for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Is there anyone out there who could work miracles who isn't already taken...just look like 11 players mish mashed together. No game plan. No spark. Nothing. So predictable. You knew soon as half time was over we'd lose this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I am sorry but simply he has to go. The results and performances are as bad as under Potter. lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, Fernando said: I still back poch. These results are expected for me. Burst now makes it more clear what we need. CB and striker. Disasi who we bought this summer was not a good buy. Badiashille who was buy last season is also come bad, Silva is old so he is leaving. That's 3 CB who are leaving or not good enough. We bought two CB from Monaco and have not improved. And then we got Fofana..... We need to get rid of Badi and Disasi and get new cb. I want Hincapie, and another cb. Striker there's no market right now for that. our ceiling under poch is still pretty low, even with a top squad. He's never been anything other than second rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) I'm not one for sacking managers quickly, but I fear his time is up, nothing changes, no intensity, Correct me if I'm wrong here, but over 2 season and 3 managers, have we actually had our strongest team on the pitch yet? Edited December 24, 2023 by YorkshireBlue lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 The players didn't look bothered today. Jogging back when they lost possession. Very worrying signs for Potch. Can't see this lasting alot longer. Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, DDA said: The players didn't look bothered today. Jogging back when they lost possession. Very worrying signs for Potch. Can't see this lasting alot longer. Like someone said about potter , he couldn’t motivate a dog to go outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: I'm not one for sacking managers quickly, but I fear his time is up, nothing changes, no intensity, Correct me if I'm wrong here, but over 2 season and 3 managers, have we actually had our strongest team on the pitch yet? 4 managers if you include Bruno 😂 ( he was actually the best , based on one game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 There was a time where everyone was curious in knowing what would Poch do at another PL team with bigger funds, least we can put that mystery to bed, guy is absolute shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheHulk said: There was a time where everyone was curious in knowing what would Poch do at another PL team with bigger funds, least we can put that mystery to bed, guy is absolute shit. Not entirely accurate, bigger budget, but 1 billion on non proven kids is alot different to 1 billion on superstars Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Not entirely accurate, bigger budget, but 1 billion on non proven kids is alot different to 1 billion on superstars Irrespective £1 billion is a lot of money to spend and someone has to be held accountable. Poch has to go soon for me as results and performances are poor and then come the summer, the footballing director lads need to go as well. If they don’t go we will never get back to any sort of respectable positions. Those 2 should not be trusted with a project of this scale and level EVER again - they have singlehandedly set this club back at least 5 years with the flooding of “talented youngsters” they’ve recruited because it will take a long time for some of these guys to become serious players whilst also neglecting top class signings for key positions 2 windows in a row. Edited December 24, 2023 by OneMoSalah Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Not entirely accurate, bigger budget, but 1 billion on non proven kids is alot different to 1 billion on superstars Caicedo and Enzo were some of the hottest midfielders in the world, both putting consistent performances last season. Yeah we didn't bring players at the peak of their career with bang of experience but these 2 were some of the best midfielders in the PL last season, now suddenly they are average players. Everton and Aston Villa are playing better football and I doubt they have squads better than us overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Caicedo and Enzo were some of the hottest midfielders in the world, both putting consistent performances last season. Yeah we didn't bring players at the peak of their career with bang of experience but these 2 were some of the best midfielders in the PL last season, now suddenly they are average players. Everton and Aston Villa are playing better football and I doubt they have squads better than us overall. 2 kids performing well in teams with experience players at there peak around them, huge difference to been chucked in to a team full of no experience and not 1 player in there prime. Edited December 24, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted December 24, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted December 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Irrespective £1 billion is a lot of money to spend and someone has to be held accountable. Poch has to go soon for me as results and performances are poor and then come the summer, the footballing director lads need to go as well. If they don’t go we will never get back to any sort of respectable positions. Those 2 should not be trusted with a project of this scale and level EVER again - they have singlehandedly set this club back at least 5 years with the flooding of “talented youngsters” they’ve recruited because it will take a long time for some of these guys to become serious players whilst also neglecting top class signings for key positions 2 windows in a row. 100% agree, I can't 100% blame poch just because if the reports are true, he was basically begging for experience players to be brought in and he got none. Strike, Vegetable, Fernando and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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