Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Need to forget Lampard, this whole thing has been a complete disaster, bloke should be nowhere near a PL or even Championship ever again. The board thought it would get the fans onside, well it didn't and it was a shit choice. I actually didn't think it could worse than Potter, but it actually has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I can't explain how it is possible that even though they have nothing to play for for almost 2 months, these players don't care that they are humiliated on the field week after week. No pride, if not for the club, at least play for your name. Nothing . Pochettino has a skyscraper to climb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Lampard has already admitted that he hasn't bothered working tactically on the team and has just tried getting them fitter and changing the mentality but that seems pointless to push at this stage of the season. We've been defensively solid all season, which is a solid base that Poch can start working from next season. That should have been our focus the rest of the season, remaining tactically solid and hoping we can nick a goal or two and gain some confidence that way. The fitness aspect has been a problem since pre season, I completely agree with Lampard on that, and our team has looked since that point all season under cooked and unfit and it's shown with the lack of intensity in our play, pressing, being able to sustain periods of attacking play, etc. But that's something we can't really work on properly until pre season, and should have adapted. We can all talk about pride, but when games have nothing on them and everyone, fans included, just wanted to write the season off, it's difficult to pick up for that. The mentality point also comes with confidence and Lampard has shattered what was already brittle from us losing so many games under his watch. Roll on Monday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,213 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 9 hours ago, cosmicway said: Can you remember any players who needed several months before they played football in Chelsea or elsewhere ? I don't - except some who came injured, There are many players who take a long time to blossom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Problem being is when they come here, they are not even a seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Superblue said: Lampard has already admitted that he hasn't bothered working tactically on the team and has just tried getting them fitter and changing the mentality but that seems pointless to push at this stage of the season. We've been defensively solid all season, which is a solid base that Poch can start working from next season. That should have been our focus the rest of the season, remaining tactically solid and hoping we can nick a goal or two and gain some confidence that way. The fitness aspect has been a problem since pre season, I completely agree with Lampard on that, and our team has looked since that point all season under cooked and unfit and it's shown with the lack of intensity in our play, pressing, being able to sustain periods of attacking play, etc. But that's something we can't really work on properly until pre season, and should have adapted. We can all talk about pride, but when games have nothing on them and everyone, fans included, just wanted to write the season off, it's difficult to pick up for that. The mentality point also comes with confidence and Lampard has shattered what was already brittle from us losing so many games under his watch. Roll on Monday... Then its a worry that the thing Lampard claims to be focusing on is now in this stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, Strike said: Then its a worry that the thing Lampard claims to be focusing on is now in this stage This has nothing to do with training, the players gave up weeks ago. They're all in pre-season/holiday mode and just coasting through until they can finally say the season is officially over. The bigger concern moving forward is the lack of leaders in the first team XI. We can't go into next season with 50 year old Thiago Silva as the only 'captain' at the club... xPetrCechx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 He never talks tactics. The other day Pep was tellng the world why De Zerbi's build up play is amongst the best in the world. That shit must of been Chinese to Lampard. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 He's a pundit that's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 16 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Think you're a tad too harsh. There are glimpses of sheer quality. He's still so very raw and lacks composure in important areas. Think he, more than anyone, will benefit from a manager like Poch. I hope you are right, but I call the way I see it. I certainly see no glimpses of anything when I watch him play. I don't even know what he's good at, because he hasn't been able to show that he can dribble, shoot, pass... even his first touch has been poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, robsblubot said: I hope you are right, but I call the way I see it. I certainly see no glimpses of anything when I watch him play. I don't even know what he's good at, because he hasn't been able to show that he can dribble, shoot, pass... even his first touch has been poor. Even though he was shit yesterday I still see the glimpses. When driving at players with the ball, be it in space or in tight areas, he drives in well. It's just that final piece he's lacking, whether its the touch, finish, etc. This needs fine tuning the most. Needs to grow mentally as well. If his first possession is a bad one, it'll affect his entire performance. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Even though he was shit yesterday I still see the glimpses. When driving at players with the ball, be it in space or in tight areas, he drives in well. It's just that final piece he's lacking, whether its the touch, finish, etc. This needs fine tuning the most. Needs to grow mentally as well. If his first possession is a bad one, it'll affect his entire performance. Sure he displays that impetus for sure. The first touch part is what worries me the most. That's literally what differentiates the great from the good. That's why I think the "greatness" ship has sailed on that one, because first touch can only be refined, not learned. Yes, a poor mentality can somewhat affect the first touch, but not that much IMO. Players who excel skill wise will just have a natural good/excellent first touch which will provide them confidence--not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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