Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 17, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 17, 2015 Might be the only one but I'm really not a fan of Simone. He makes Jose look more gentleman-like than Ancelotti! Kostas, Azul, Blue-in-me-Veins and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Hiddink would be my first choice, otherwise Zola or a player manager in JT or finally Steve Holland - somebody with a connection to the club.If we end up with Ramos then the board can go fuck themselves, it's completely unacceptable to sack a manager of Jose's quality and replace him with an unknown caretaker. Essien19 and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 The issue here is that you're looking at another short-term appointment to come in and apply his style in a half-arsed way for a few seasons with some success (if the board backs him) and then be replaced by someone who will do something else.I think the club has to have a frank discussion about what it actually wants to be and not just in the sort-term, but over the next decade and beyond. The issue there is that no-one seems to be in a position to say that to Roman who is a great man, but not the technician of a footballing dynasty.We don't need a manager, we need an identity.Brilliant post man. Exactly what I was thinking .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Brilliant post man. Exactly what I was thinking ..Problem is - nothing in the world is viewed as long term now, literally everything is about short term instant gratification From deliveries to consumer goods to fashion - it's everywhere...The world is now an impatient place - long term stability has no place in this world.I think we just have to accept that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Problem is - nothing in the world is viewed as long term now, literally everything is about short term instant gratification From deliveries to consumer goods to fashion - it's everywhere...The world is now an impatient place - long term stability has no place in this world.I think we just have to accept thatProblem is - nothing in the world is viewed as long term now, literally everything is about short term instant gratification From deliveries to consumer goods to fashion - it's everywhere...The world is now an impatient place - long term stability has no place in this world.I think we just have to accept thatBut any successful company that offers short term gratification has an overarching idea of where it wants to get to over a period of time and a set of principles it holds true. We don't.We have placed short term panic ahead of any type of long term plan. What is our identity as a club now and do we trust Roman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Maybe we dont need "big name" manager like Simeone or Pep. Maybe we need some new blood in too the football world? Someone like Emery with fresh ideas and good stile of footballMonk! Koeman! Piojo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 But any successful company that offers short term gratification has an overarching idea of where it wants to get to over a period of time and a set of principles it holds true. We don't.We have placed short term panic ahead of any type of long term plan. What is our identity as a club now and do we trust Roman?Yes, in that respect we are no further forward than when Bates took over.Back then our policy was to buy ageing stars and grab a few seasons out of them. Then Ranieri purchased some younger players and the rest is history...I think our overarching principle is to be as successful in the next 10 years as we have in the past 10 years. In that respect, sadly, the end often justifies the means. So I'm fully prepared to be having this discussion again within 18 months, the only time this will become an issue is if we remain trophy ? free during that period, then it can be considered a failure. Otherwise it's rinse and repeat...I'm not saying this is ideal! But more of a sad realisation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I 'm a fan of Guus.But is he still up to it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Since John Terry played his first game in 1998, he has seen 13 managers come and leave Chelsea Football Club.One man above all managers D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 When Mourinho took over, I thought it was a mistake because we had the wrong sorts of players for him to build his team, so, we sold them and bought more fitting players. Now, however, we are a mess with no style and no sound of the club so anyone can take over and rebuild. Something I think is missing from a lot of name managers is the ability to be flexible. Mourinho, Van Gaal, etc... they have to build their teams to play a specific way. You'd think that a good manager could just get the best out of their players no matter what the system. bethos1 and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted December 17, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 17, 2015 Since John Terry played his first game in 1998, he has seen 13 managers come and leave Chelsea Football Club.One man above all managers D:Now I understand. Chelsea hired and sacked all those managers so JT could learn from each and every one of them, pick and mold the best methods and combine them with his own alpha male personality and leadership abilities to eventually transform into the ultimate manager for Chelsea after he retires. Genius. TheOneChan95, The Skipper, Svita 10 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 "I don't know if it's confirmed, if the club has announced it, but Guus told me earlier," Kezman, who played for Chelsea between 2004 and 2005, is quoted as telling Croatian tabloid Index ."He is a top coach who knows what to do every time. He knows when to tighten the belt, but also when to loosen. He is a good coach and even better psychologist."I'm convinced that with him Chelsea will recover and rise in the table, and I'd also say they are one of the favourites for the Champions League." Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Roman did all he could for Jose .Noway would he have waited this long if this were back in the day. Next coach? I think I want Pep .I like coaches that play to win rather than playing not to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 100% it'll be hiddink until May. Permanent I'd guess simeone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Might be the only one but I'm really not a fan of Simone. He makes Jose look more gentleman-like than Ancelotti! What has Simeone done to give you this impression? Remember that we're not talking Football here. It's quite obvious that his personality is nothing like Jose's. Simeone doesn't build that siege mentality which only lasts for a while anyways(Simeone has been at Atletico for 5 years) and more importantly doesn't bring the club's image down by making ridiculous statements in the press.I would say Simeone is much more passionate than Mourinho on the pitch and much less of a shit disturber on the outside. I've always found Simeone an alright gentleman.I still wouldn't want him here though but that's just me. I like someone who focuses more on the attacking sides of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Simeone would make us better than Pep would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 My only holdback against Guus is whether he is still up to it. He is 69, does not have won a title since that very FA Cup 2009 and his last few spells ended in disaster. I couldn't have more respect for what he achieved here + his sides either always managed to play nice football (like when he managed Turkey and Russia) or at least grinded out results (he had a marvellous winning percentage here). Also he was fine as a caretaker with players like Lamps, Ballack, Drogba, Essien who were grown man, mature characters and respected the experience and tactical nous of a man like Hiddink, I am not sure if our current group of boys with their fancy shoes, selfies, fragile mindset and volatile attitude will do so, too. Muzchap, Eden Hazard 17, Viper22 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Although if Pep comes maybe he can bring some top players. They do love to play for him, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 My only holdback against Guus is whether he is still up to it. He is 69, does not have won a title since that very FA Cup 2009 and his last few spells ended in disaster. I couldn't have more respect for what he achieved here + his sides either always managed to play nice football (like when he managed Turkey and Russia) or at least grinded out results (he had a marvellous winning percentage here). Also he was fine as a caretaker with players like Lamps, Ballack, Drogba, Essien who were grown man, mature characters and respected the experience and tactical nous of a man like Hiddink, I am not sure if our current group of boys with their fancy shoes, selfies, fragile mindset and volatile attitude will do so, too. I think he's an 'Interim' appointment, much like Rafa, I believe from the limited info, we are also looking for a longer term manager... I wonder if they will be as rude to Guus as they were to Rafa, prefixing his name with Interim! Always thought that was a little harsh on the FSW.Good call on the squad mentalities - that's been debated no end tonight iseah100 and bellion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Looks like Hiddink is a done deal. Let's hope he can do what he did a few years back and steady the ship Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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