kellzfresh 7,229 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Mhsc said: Real shame we are wasting time with Lampard. Make no mistake this will set us back next year when the new manager needs until Christmas to see the players in action and understand who is up to what. Personally wish we would just appoint Enrique and call it a day, or even Poch would be fine. Not sold on Nags who just seems like a German Graham Potter to me. Frank does not build a team, he builds individuals and tells the players to express themselves. No tactics or ideas passed on to the players by Frank so it's easy to dismantle after the players have exhausted their energy in the beginning of the match. Tuchel, Conte and Sarri were excellent at building teams, a style of play, a system to follow no tinkering of formations, just one style and we stick to it and form chemistry and understanding. Knowing this, I think the owners should announce that Luis Enrique is taking over in the summer to bring some calm. He will bring a system, a style, a philosophy and compel the players to stick to it. Eventually the team chemistry and understanding will improve and we will be back to the top. He is the best fit for the club and is the kind of high level manager we need for a club of our stature. Chelsea fans need to realize that only an elite manager can take us back to our level, stop managing scrubs. Reddish-Blue, Costa19 and NikkiCFC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) The board and the manager should come together and make a list of players who will be here for next season. The manager should discuss with the players and see who is unhappy and wants to leave in the summer, while the board decides who they want to sell. I am 100% sure players like Pulisic, Ziyech, Aubameyang do not want to stay. So why use them? Are Gallagher and Havertz going to be sold too? Don't play them! Use Carney, Enzo, Kante and whoever else you want in the middle, if Kovacic is not ready to give it all. Use Fofana in attack. Use Madueke instead of Pulisic. Use Badiashile in defence. We have options. There are enough players who should be determined to get ready for next season. What's up with all this "we have to keep everyone happy" nonsense? The priority should be the well-being of the club. I can only imagine what it feels like to be Carney. He was supposed to get playing time, yet he has to watch all of these useless pricks get ahead of him in the queue. And for what? This is where all the chaos comes from. There is no sense of direction whatsoever. Edited April 9, 2023 by Cosmin mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Cosmin said: The board and the manager should come together and make a list of players who will be here for next season. The manager should discuss with the players and see who is unhappy and wants to leave in the summer, while the board decides who they want to sell. I am 100% sure players like Pulisic, Ziyech, Aubameyang do not want to stay. So why use them? Are Gallagher and Havertz going to be sold too? Don't play them! Use Carney, Enzo, Kante and whoever else you want in the middle, if Kovacic is not ready to give it all. Use Fofana in attack. Use Madueke instead of Pulisic. Use Badiashile in defence. We have options. There are enough players who should be determined to get ready for next season. What's up with all this "we have to keep everyone happy" nonsense? The priority should be the well-being of the club. I can only imagine what it feels like to be Carney. He was supposed to get playing time, yet he has to watch all of these useless pricks get ahead of him in the queue. And for what? This is where all the chaos comes from. There is no sense of direction whatsoever. Has Carney been injured recently or is he just not being picked? Really feel like this would have been a golden chance to give Carney some proper minutes alongside Enzo/Kante/Kovacic. Watching RLC be passive and Gallagher run around like a headless chicken just isn't fun anymore. These final games of the season could have been used effectively by playing some of these youngsters and seeing what they have to offer. But instead of doing that, it'll be Havertz & Felix getting auto selections every game & Cucurella will somehow continue to be picked even though he has been absolutely horrible for the most part. Can't believe we actually let go of Alonso & Emerson to somehow downgrade at the LB spot with Cucurella. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) Well, yes but no. In theory, sure, but you can't just ostracize group of players you consider movable and think it won't affect the rest of dressing room. They are still friends are intelligent enough to know they can meet the same fate as well. And transfers are not so straightforward. Fact club wants to move a player doesn't mean it will 100% happen. Not to mention what happened with Zyiech just recently. I always laughed when Potter was defended with "integrating youth", but where tf Carney, Noni and co are is good question. They may be not quite ready, but apparently everyone, led by owners, had given up the season anyway. And if they are waiting to get a chance in satellite club, well, they may not see it until they careers are over. Edited April 9, 2023 by Vegetable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Chelsea owner Todd Boehly's reportedly turned to his friend and TV presenter James Corden for advice, before taking the decision to appoint Frank Lampard as interim manager until the end of the season FFS NikkiCFC and Vegetable 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) So basically he says that he cant develop the players that are already here and demands a new squad with him in charge over transfers? If true he can fuck right off. Edited April 10, 2023 by Gundalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, Gundalf said: So basically he says that he cant develop the players that are already here and demands a new squad with him in charge over transfers? If true he can fuck right off. There's not even a source on this post, so it just sounds like complete guesswork. Having said that, I think every man and his dog can see we need a striker (and a mobile one with which to lead a press against teams would be extremely ideal) and a defensive midfielder so if this is indeed true and he's identified those two areas as key to be sorted then that already fills me with confidence. The wide one if true is a bit of a question mark, but Luis Enrique has regularly set up with a 4-3-3 so the wide positions are pretty important to the overall dynamic of the team and the attack. Although we're currently well stocked in that position, the likes of Pulisic and Ziyech are almost certainly going to leave in the summer, and Mount is looking likely too. I'd be surprised in all honesty if we made Felix's move permanent. Depending on what the plan would be for Nkunku, it leaves us realistically with Sterling as the only real genuine experienced wide player in the squad and although big money has been spent, Mudryk and Madueke are still young and need to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Superblue said: There's not even a source on this post, so it just sounds like complete guesswork. Having said that, I think every man and his dog can see we need a striker (and a mobile one with which to lead a press against teams would be extremely ideal) and a defensive midfielder so if this is indeed true and he's identified those two areas as key to be sorted then that already fills me with confidence. The wide one if true is a bit of a question mark, but Luis Enrique has regularly set up with a 4-3-3 so the wide positions are pretty important to the overall dynamic of the team and the attack. Although we're currently well stocked in that position, the likes of Pulisic and Ziyech are almost certainly going to leave in the summer, and Mount is looking likely too. I'd be surprised in all honesty if we made Felix's move permanent. Depending on what the plan would be for Nkunku, it leaves us realistically with Sterling as the only real genuine experienced wide player in the squad and although big money has been spent, Mudryk and Madueke are still young and need to develop. He have spent over 600 millions since the summer so I doubt we can afford to go big in the transfer market again without breaking every financial regulation possible, even with a few sellings. Maye 2 players (including Nkunku) and thats about it. Time to work some magic for a "real" manager now to turn Mudyrk, Madueke, CHO and co into worldclass players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superblue 6,372 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Gundalf said: I mentioned this on another post, but these accounts were signed off back in October so you'd like to think the ownership knew what they were doing in January with these figures in mind. I agree with you, I think we'll see a couple of additions in the summer as opposed to another huge influx. Keeper, Defensive Midfielder and Striker are the key areas and I think if we can get two of these sorted out in the summer we'll be in a much stronger position, unless they already view Nkunku as the source of goals we're lacking? But there will be a huge number of outgoings. The wage bill will be reduced drastically - a number of the players signed particularly in January are reportedly on lower base salaries and higher bonus structures and many of the players are now also reportedly on wage reductions if they don't play in the Champions League. Note that there are wages to turnover limits being introduced so the club has to get a handle on this and it does appear with recent moves that there is a plan to reaching this. And obviously with outgoings there should also be monies coming in. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of players like Mount and Gallagher are moved on if it allows more flexibility with a summer spend but ultimately I can see 10-12 players being moved out, and depending on who that might be could easily fetch anywhere between £100-200m (Mount and Gallagher on there own could probably raise the low end of that estimate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/Chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2023/4/10/23669304/julian-nagelsmann-luis-enrique-mauricio-pochettino-who-should-be-the-next-Chelsea-manager Luis Enrique is the best choice imo. Edited April 10, 2023 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Pochetino. He works with youth. He would work with our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, Fernando said: Pochetino. He works with youth. He would work with our team. He is a loser, need someone to come in with a winner mentality after that shit Potter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Superblue said: I mentioned this on another post, but these accounts were signed off back in October so you'd like to think the ownership knew what they were doing in January with these figures in mind. I agree with you, I think we'll see a couple of additions in the summer as opposed to another huge influx. Keeper, Defensive Midfielder and Striker are the key areas and I think if we can get two of these sorted out in the summer we'll be in a much stronger position, unless they already view Nkunku as the source of goals we're lacking? But there will be a huge number of outgoings. The wage bill will be reduced drastically - a number of the players signed particularly in January are reportedly on lower base salaries and higher bonus structures and many of the players are now also reportedly on wage reductions if they don't play in the Champions League. Note that there are wages to turnover limits being introduced so the club has to get a handle on this and it does appear with recent moves that there is a plan to reaching this. And obviously with outgoings there should also be monies coming in. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of players like Mount and Gallagher are moved on if it allows more flexibility with a summer spend but ultimately I can see 10-12 players being moved out, and depending on who that might be could easily fetch anywhere between £100-200m (Mount and Gallagher on there own could probably raise the low end of that estimate). _____________________ Pure Profit Mount - 50m Gallagher - 40m Maatsen - 35m CHO - 10-15m ______________________________________ Havertz - 35m Ziyech - 20-30m Pulisic - 20-30m Ampadu - 10m Best case scenario, maybe 250m for the lot? Reckon we will end up loaning the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Clockwork said: He is a loser, need someone to come in with a winner mentality after that shit Potter. He's not my first choice but I would blame the culture at Spurs more than him. Blue Armour, Fernando and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, MoroccanBlue said: _____________________ Pure Profit Mount - 50m Gallagher - 40m Maatsen - 35m CHO - 10-15m ______________________________________ Havertz - 35m Ziyech - 20-30m Pulisic - 20-30m Ampadu - 10m Best case scenario, maybe 250m for the lot? Reckon we will end up loaning the others. I'm slightly paranoid we're going to sell Colwill as he could probably command around £60m now he's 'proven' at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tomo said: He's not my first choice but I would blame the culture at Spurs more than him. He finished 2nd with PSG in the French farmers league. Not a lot of managers would be able to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Gundalf said: He finished 2nd with PSG in the French farmers league. Not a lot of managers would be able to do that. Carlo (who many want back) and Emery also did. Fernando and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tomo said: I'm slightly paranoid we're going to sell Colwill as he could probably command around £60m now he's 'proven' at this level. I mean if anything it'll be a testament on our new directors/advisors on how well they rate talent. Nobody in their right mind would get rid of a young CB who genuinely has the potential to be the next Rio Ferdinand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tomo said: Carlo (who many want back) and Emery also did. Oh cmon thats unfair. The PSG of 2012 was not remotely as good as the one Poch had. Edited April 10, 2023 by Gundalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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