The Next Manager?

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7 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

Tottenham set sights on Luciano Spalletti as new manager

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/tottenham-hotspur-news/luciano-spalletti-manager-news-rumours-updates/

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On 21/02/2023 at 16:04, Hashishi said:

I don't really care how he did at ManUre because they are not well run, and spuds because they are stingy. Roma fans are saying getting top 4, with players like Cristante and solbakken, is his greatest achievement. And he won UCL with Inter. It just proves that Mourinho can do a better job at a 'middling' club as well as a big club than Potter.

Inter in 2000s was hardly a middling club

Serie A titles in the 2000s : 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2002–03, 2010–11

Coppa Italia titles in the 2000s :  2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10, 2010–11, Runners-up in the 2000s : 1999–2000, 2006–07, 2007–08

Supercoppa Italian titles in the 2000s : 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2000, 2007, 2009, 2011

UEFA Champions League   2009–10

FIFA Club World Cup        2010

Inter has never been relegated from the top flight of Italian football in its entire existence. It is the sole club to have competed in Serie A and its predecessors in every season since its debut in 1909.

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Inter in 2000s was hardly a middling club

Serie A titles in the 2000s : 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2002–03, 2010–11

Coppa Italia titles in the 2000s :  2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10, 2010–11, Runners-up in the 2000s : 1999–2000, 2006–07, 2007–08

Supercoppa Italian titles in the 2000s : 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, Runners-up in the 2000s : 2000, 2007, 2009, 2011

UEFA Champions League   2009–10

FIFA Club World Cup        2010

Inter has never been relegated from the top flight of Italian football in its entire existence. It is the sole club to have competed in Serie A and its predecessors in every season since its debut in 1909.

They were dominant domestically but in Europe, they were effectively average, kept getting knocked out at the round of 16 stage before Mourinho came along and got that older team to click on the big stage. 

Mourinho may not be a long term manager anywhere but he builds a winning mentality in the playing group and generally, gets them over the line on the big occasion.  It's just a shame that his stint at Real Madrid and the Spanish media made him super bitter about everything as the Mourinho at Chelsea (first time) and Inter Milan was amazing to watch. 

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1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

They were dominant domestically but in Europe, they were effectively average, kept getting knocked out at the round of 16 stage before Mourinho came along and got that older team to click on the big stage. 

Mourinho may not be a long term manager anywhere but he builds a winning mentality in the playing group and generally, gets them over the line on the big occasion.  It's just a shame that his stint at Real Madrid and the Spanish media made him super bitter about everything as the Mourinho at Chelsea (first time) and Inter Milan was amazing to watch. 

my issue was with them being labelled as middling, which they clearly were not

middling doesn't mean every club who struggles to win the CL

Over the past 25 years the only teams to have won the CL were

Chels

Real

Barca

Bayern

AC Milan

Manure

Pool

Inter

Porto (Mou again)

 all are multiple EC/CL winners

Juve lost FIVE finals in that span wone none (they have only 2 wins against 7 losses in CL finals) but they are hardly a middling club.

The only other multiple winners are 3 clubs whose European glory days have went poof long ago (Ajax, Benfica, both of whom still are great domestically, and then the long shit Forest) Forest IS a middling club, the first one listed here.

Citeh and PSG have never won it, but they are hardly middling clubs now (both have only been truly dominant for around the last 10 years though).

Middling clubs for me are clubs that never win (or almost never) any sort of trophies, domestic or otherwise, but also do not get relegated and occasionally finish in the top 10. Middle of the table clubs, to be more precise.

 

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Middling clubs for me are clubs that never win (or almost never) any sort of trophies, domestic or otherwise, but also do not get relegated and occasionally finish in the top 10. Middle of the table clubs, to be more precise.

 

So mainly Tottenham then ;). My point in my original comment was Roma is currently a middling club and Mourinho is doing a better job than Potter at a big club.

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28 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

So mainly Tottenham then ;). My point in my original comment was Roma is currently a middling club and Mourinho is doing a better job than Potter at a big club.

He's doing ok nothing special. They are lucky juventus got punished

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I'd be interested in whoever has coached Atalanta these past seasons 

Edit - some old guy , too late 

Edited February 26, 2023 by lucio

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17 minutes ago, lucio said:

He's doing ok nothing special. They are lucky juventus got punished

Juve would've been on 47 with Inter so I see your point. Roma's squad is barebones compared to the Top 4 in Italy so the fact he's gotten them competing for top 4 is a big achievement. He would've still been above AC Milan in 4th if not for the points deduction.

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He wants to come to Chelsea. 

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[lucio 5,418]

Incredible lol, biggest fraud in history. But how is someone getting paid so much ? Atletico aren't that rich 

[lucio 5,418]

Get big Julian in for Liverpool 

[Johnnyeye 7,511]

anyone pls, im fucking done with this numpty. Embarrassment of a manager

[Costa19 858]

Nagelsmann or Enrique.

Pull the trigger Boehly 

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On 30/03/2023 at 21:57, lucio said:

Incredible lol, biggest fraud in history. But how is someone getting paid so much ? Atletico aren't that rich 

They got huge Chinese investment if I remember correctly.

Mental Potters on 13.5 a year, ridiculous, hes fucking hopeless. 

[lucio 5,418]

for me 

1. Nagelsmann

2. Enrique

3. Pochetinno

don't want anyone outside these 3

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Chelsea

https://caughtoffside.substack.com/i/112358504/Chelsea

Chelsea officially announced the decision to sack Graham Potter last night. Bruno Saltor will take care of Chelsea as Interim coach. The Chelsea board always supported their manager in difficult moments but things changed yesterday as they held internal conversations over his future. They were not happy at all as they dropped out of the top half of the Premier League table.

Graham Potter’s sacking is not surprising as the situation was very tense after Villa game, and the feeling was that some of the players were not happy with how things were going. The Chelsea board decided about it in the night between Saturday and Sunday with communication to Potter around lunch time. It was not an easy moment because the whole board supported him for a long time and all really wanted him in the summer when they replaced Thomas Tuchel. It was not easy to communicate on the human side, but this is football.

They decided to change as they felt this group needed different kind of ideas and different energy; Potter was no longer considered the right man for the job. I think this is a decision we can understand as the feeling was never so positive on this appointment. Chelsea also still feel they can do something in the Champions League, and a change in manager can be the right kind of shock for the squad.

Julian Nagelsmann is emerging as a strong candidate for the job. He’s really appreciated by the board and the owners, so he’s an option for sure. I think he’s an excellent, talented coach who could do great job in the Premier League. Chelsea like his vision, fresh ideas, they know the next coach has to be the right one for many years and they feel Julian could be perfect. It’s important to remember that Nagelsmann is still under contract at Bayern and there has been no agreement yet on terminating the contract. Still, he is considering the option of going to Chelsea, but it’s not clear yet if he will come straight away or at the end of the season. Chelsea will try to have Nagelsmann as soon as possible, but let’s see what he will decide. He’s very disappointed with how things ended at Bayern, it was a shocking story for him.

From what I understand, Nagelsmann has already spoken with those close to him to get their opinions on the Chelsea job, what they think about the club, and the project, and whether it would be good to join now or at the end of the season, so these talks will be crucial.

Ruben Amorim and Luis Enrique are also appreciated; no contacts with Mauricio Pochettino at this stage, but he was on the list last September before Chelsea appointed Potter. We know Pochettino is a big name on the market right now, but at the moment he’s still not speaking with Chelsea, and he’s also an option for Real Madrid in case Carlo Ancelotti leaves at the end of the season - the Champions League will be crucial to determine his future.

Enrique has fans on the Chelsea board and he’s been public in saying he’d love to go to the Premier League. Amorim, meanwhile, is doing great work at Sporting, he has a great relationship with the club’s board and with the fans, he’s doing an excellent job and he’s one to watch as well.

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This is sounding like Nags now or interim until the end of the season. Nags could also be before preseason. 

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