LAM09 7,056 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 He's lead his team out of the top four three out of the last four season's. He finished 6th with Zlatan leading the line for god sake. Nothing against you but I'm genuinely stunned that there's so many people entertaining the idea of a Jose mark 3 after how it ended with us and United, it would see us away from challenging for years and years and years, will probably be as damaging as Souness's spell at Liverpool was,if not more so.They see past glories and that is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Jason said: Lee Bowyer not extending his contract with Charlton. One of the names mentioned to replace Lampard at Derby apparently? Rumoured JT is in the hat for the Derby job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Lol, if anyone could believe that by appointing current Lampard will bring us glory. Nothing wrong with saying appointing the likes of Allegri and even Jose will do too. You may hate the man from the bottom of your heart, but cannot denied that he is still one of the best. Remember how Jose Mark I ended, it was a mess too, and look what he did in his first and second season of Mark II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,491 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Jason said: Interesting bits in this story by Matt Law. Claude Makelele's name is mentioned as someone who could take charge of the loan army, which will free up Eddie Newton or Paulo Ferreira to move to a coaching role with Lampard, Jody and Chris Jones. Cech also mentioned in director role. The backroom seems to be coming together quite nicely and these are the type of people who will be bolder in giving chances to guys like Tammy, Mount and Reece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Jason said: Lee Bowyer not extending his contract with Charlton. One of the names mentioned to replace Lampard at Derby apparently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 hours ago, manpe said: Exactly, only a mentally challenged club would step on the same rake twice. Jose is the last name of anyone I want to see back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Are we doing anything long-term? It would be very counter-productive to bring Mourinho after Sarri, those are two opposite philosophies, and our board want us to play attacking football. And let's be honest, most of us do too. It really baffles me that year after year we bring totally different managers, with different styles. That's why Drinkwater and Bakayoko couldn't even make a bench in Sarri system. Or even captain Cahill. Same way as Jorginho/RLC/Christensen/Mount wouldn't make it in Mourinho's setup. Kepa's great ball playing would be wasted under Mou too. So I don't know what Lampard can bring us, no one knows actually. But I sure as hell don't want another turn-around. Let's stick to attacking, possession--high-press approach, or something close to that. After all, now we have players more suited for that kind of playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 hours ago, RoyalBlues said: Lol, if anyone could believe that by appointing current Lampard will bring us glory. Nothing wrong with saying appointing the likes of Allegri and even Jose will do too. You may hate the man from the bottom of your heart, but cannot denied that he is still one of the best. Remember how Jose Mark I ended, it was a mess too, and look what he did in his first and second season of Mark II. Is he? Historically absolutely but is he really one of the best active managers in 2019? I see no evidence to suggest so, ever since his title in 2015 he's been stumbling across one disaster after another. You wouldn't bring a washed up ex great player to next season's lineup based on what he did in the past, so why would you with a manager? ulsterchelsea and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted June 18, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted June 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Alan Partridge said: I'd love Lampard to do well but he really needs a few years experience first. I'd rather Jose who has won multiple league titles and a couple of champions league's than Lampard who has 0 experience at top level management. There really arent many options that I can see.. Needs to be looked at it context, given where we are right now just looking at trophy record is counter productive as it's likely going to take atleast two years to get challenging again and even that's only if we get almost everything right in the interim. One of the main musts with these job now is who can bring through the next generation. We have the best set of youngsters in this country since the Busby Babes, would you really trust Jose to nurture them and be patient while they grow? Could you really imagine him patiently building for a few years while Pep and Klopp run away from sight at 1st and 2nd? I can't, his ego won't allow it, he'd lose his shit more than ever before. You think its bad seeing KDB and Salah at rivals, wait until homegrown Chelsea boys are doing so which could well be the case if we bring back Mourinho. One of the big remits of this next few years has to be to bring through the cream of our current crop, and with that in context Lampard (especially given he has Jody Morris in his staff who will openly advocate giving these players chances) seems as safe a bet as any. 11Drogba, Fernando, MoroccanBlue and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 0:13 AM, Tomo said: How do you know that? Arsenal don't have a big budget and Auba and Lacazette aside have been pretty pants in the market for years. United throw money away at will. They may sign players but there's no guarantee both or even either will significantly improve, infact (recent) history suggests they won't. They don't really have to improve much, we are out of top 4 if we collect only three points less than this season (and if other teams don't improve and collect the same amount of points). I don't think we will collapse or anything like that but the transfer ban, Hazard leaving, several players being inexperienced at top level football... All these factors make Lampard's job the toughest one among all the managers Roman hired. Tomo and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Sky Sports News understands Derby County have been contacted by a number of candidates enquiring about the manager's job at Pride Park - but all of them have been told there isn't a vacancy. Derby have categorically refused to engage in any sort of discussion with the would-be managers or their representatives, so as not to undermine their current relationship with Frank Lampard, with whom they are still negotiating an improved and extended contract. Derby owner Mel Morris said yesterday that they want Lampard to stay for the long term, and they are building their plans around him. However, it's expected that Chelsea will soon make a move for Lampard to take over from Maurizio Sarri - though there has been no formal contact with Derby so far. Chelsea's all-time leading scorer is currently away on holiday, but is in regular contact with his representatives over developments at Pride Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekinjo 449 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Gianfranco Zola has been offered an ambassadorial role by Chelsea, which he has rejected after being told by the club that they have no plans to keep him next season. @MattHughesTimes via: @TimesSport Another day, another..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2nd straight June we are managerless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 hours ago, the wes said: That happened after all the drama yesterday?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, the wes said: Sky Sports News understands Derby County have been contacted by a number of candidates enquiring about the manager's job at Pride Park - but all of them have been told there isn't a vacancy. Derby have categorically refused to engage in any sort of discussion with the would-be managers or their representatives, so as not to undermine their current relationship with Frank Lampard, with whom they are still negotiating an improved and extended contract. Derby owner Mel Morris said yesterday that they want Lampard to stay for the long term, and they are building their plans around him. However, it's expected that Chelsea will soon make a move for Lampard to take over from Maurizio Sarri - though there has been no formal contact with Derby so far. Chelsea's all-time leading scorer is currently away on holiday, but is in regular contact with his representatives over developments at Pride Park. Funny that Derby are suddenly making all the noises when they were so quiet in previous weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Apparently Derby offered Gerrard the job if Lamps leaves??? He rejected it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Jason said: That happened after all the drama yesterday?! Money talks... 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: Apparently Derby offered Gerrard the job if Lamps leaves??? He rejected it anyway. Not surprising. It's a step down all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Tomo said: Is he? Historically absolutely but is he really one of the best active managers in 2019? I see no evidence to suggest so, ever since his title in 2015 he's been stumbling across one disaster after another. You wouldn't bring a washed up ex great player to next season's lineup based on what he did in the past, so why would you with a manager? Well, yes, he is always good in his first and second season and then messed up in his 3rd. So based on a fair judgement actually he is still the best option available and perfectly fit for our condition atm imo, until our ban lifted. Definitely Lampard is not the best option we could have atm. That's the point. And the board looks like still considering some options out there, as trust me, if we made Lampard our top priority since weeks ago, we would have announce him by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 hours ago, RoyalBlues said: Well, yes, he is always good in his first and second season and then messed up in his 3rd. So based on a fair judgement actually he is still the best option available and perfectly fit for our condition atm imo, until our ban lifted. Definitely Lampard is not the best option we could have atm. That's the point. And the board looks like still considering some options out there. He was absolutely dreadful in his first season at United (finishing 6th with Zlatan as your striker is god awful) and got out of jail due to the kindest Europa League run in history. But even if that's the case, do we really want the one-step forward then three back yet again? Last time you can justify it by the fact we got a title out of it, I guarentee we won't this time. If anything our current transfer ban makes him even less suited, part of the reason it all went wrong last time was because he wasn't getting his expensive targets and it was arguably the sole reason it went wrong the first time, also we've just recently sold the two players he built his attacking structure around last time. Also with the ban the need to promote our brilliant academy players comes to the fore even more, do you honestly trust Mourinho to do what's right by Reece James, Hudson Odoi, Mason Mount, Ethan Ampadu? Make no mistake those guys are the real deal and if we don't nurture them others will nab them off us, most likely rivals in this league. Mourinho won't patiently develop them, it's not in his nature, he won't be able to do a Klopp and take on a 3 year project (it's three years minimum until we're challenging for the league and the CL again bar a written in the stars run in the latters case) he won't be able to, his ego won't be able to stay calm through all the punches he will have to ride to get there. Lampard while a risk as the unknown, it also means we can go into it with hope. With Jose back we all roughly know what the script is going to be only this time it will almost certainly be all the bullshit with no league title to show for it. Jose will always be a massive figure in the history of the club, no one can ever take that away from him, but he should never be our manager again. 11Drogba, manpe and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Genuinely question the sanity of some people. As if our 2015/2016 season and Mourinho's capitulation with United, never happened. Scary Tomo, 11Drogba, xPetrCechx and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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